As a kid in the fifties I remember the all out war of toy trains fought in 
the canyons of New York City, Phila and Chicago. Remember the factory 
displays from Lionel and Gilbert? American Flyer absolutely influenced the 
GUAGE. The SCALE Model railroader influenced modeling in 1/64 scale.
The S guage modelers still outnumber the scale modelers. 
And this is exactly why I refrained from getting back into S SCALE for 
nearly 20 yrs. You have Hi Rail, Flyer, and Scale all on one guage. I go 
through the various companies web sites and see nice looking cars with 
huge flanges and couplers. It makes sense but as a consumer new to 1/64th
it is confusing with each faction trying to get the consumer dollar. 
Just my thoughts,
Ken

Let's not overlook the existence of S Scale in Britain.  Were they
motivated by American Flyer?  I rather doubt it.  I think the popularity 
of
S-scale is due to its size and scale.

There is no disputing the influence of Gilbert and AF on the American
market but I would not say they were responsible for the popularity of
S-scale today.  I don't think S-scale got really popular until scale
products were available.  The S-scale influence on me was the Southwind SP
2-8-0 and Bill Wade's publication and products.

There must be many modelers like me who have no memories of American 
Flyer.

Art 


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  Hey Ed;

  Before Gilbert, there was only CD models and maybe a
  couple of small producers like Nimco or Nord. 

  big clip

   I'm not sure there would have been
  enough S to keep alive without A.C. Gilbert



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