Bob:

So, when I insert a media card in the card reader on my camera, the thumbnails 
automatically come up as JPEGs. If I try to save them as TIF, I understand I 
lose some quality. How do I change that?

Bob Nicholson  _____________________________________

--- In [email protected], Bob Werre <b...@...> wrote:
>
> I'm back on line now,  my Mac guy and myself had to rearrange four 
> computers.  I added one which booted off of the system.  Very expensive 
> but configuring backup hard drives to run remotely, rearranging licenses 
> quickly gets beyond my ability.  Hopefully this will last until the new 
> version of something comes out--maybe a couple weeks tops!
> 
> Anyway when you see a JEPG file size it will be compressed by throwing 
> away data.  If you did a TIFF conversion the PC computer added data.  
> Doing that is going to make any retouching/saving and then additional 
> retouching/saving possible without much deterioration that would occur 
> with a JEPG alone.  The benefit of JEPG's is that once you have reached 
> the final stage of your work, it's okay to save the final version as a 
> JEPG if your sure you or anybody else will never do any additional 
> revisions.  Of course JEPG's are the standard for emailing images 
> because they are compressed to where most email programs can handle 
> several reasonable sized images.  I'm not sure why your computer froze 
> up with a TIFF, but perhaps it was too memory intensive or maybe there 
> wasn't a program to actually open it--like PhotoDeluxe, PhotoShop or the 
> camera's own software program.  Most cameras today don't have a TIFF 
> option, instead they are saved as a RAW file.  A typical 12MP camera 
> saving a TIFF in 16 bit will create a 70mg file.  That will fill a 
> memory card quickly.  The same camera saving a RAW file will write 
> somewhere around 10-12 mg each, so a 1 gig card will save about 32 
> images or about what a roll of 35mm film would hold.  Most semi-pros and 
> nearly all pros will shoot RAW whenever possible, with the idea of 
> delivering a TIFF, PhotoShop doc, or JEPG to the end user.
> 
> One last word--all cameras shoot in RAW.  What happens to that image 
> when sent to the camera's computer determines how much quality is kept 
> or thrown away.
> 
> Bob Werre
> BobWphoto.com
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I would like to see this discussion too. The issue of JPEG vs. TIFF is 
> > confusing to me. I was sent some plans in TIFF a while back and they 
> > locked up my computer when I tried to open them: it was not an antique 
> > computer either<g>. When I save pics from my digital camera, they are 
> > identified as JPG in the basic photo program that I like to use. They 
> > look pretty clear to me, even when enlarged for cropping.
> >
> > Roger Nulton
> >
> > From: shabbona_rr
> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:49 AM
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Cameras
> >
> > OK, this is a technical question, and then I'll drop the subject 
> > because it is only vaguely related to trains.
> >
> > Due to the discussion on this list, I took a 4.26 MB JPEG photo and 
> > saved it as a TIF. According to the properties, the TIF is 26.1 MB. 
> > How did changing the format raise the size of the photo to that 
> > degree? Also, I didn't really see much difference in the quality of 
> > the photo in either format.
> >
> > I would really like to know these things, and study them the best I 
> > can, but my comprehension is sometimes a little limited without some 
> > outside help. I didn't know how hard it is to draw a straight line 
> > until I tried to do it with a computer, and now I'm having the same 
> > problem with taking a picture.
> >
> > Bob, I attended your clinic in Duluth, and a lot of my questions all 
> > began to come together, but to much time elapsed between then and when 
> > I got to try the techniques you described.
> >
> > Offline responses welcome to save the list for more important things, 
> > like '56 Fords (with Overdrive, I might add), '73 Mustangs, and DCC, 
> > etc. :<)
> >
> > Bob Nicholson ______________________________________________
> >
> 
> 
> 
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>




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