Bill et al

 I have seen an actual increase in the number of kit companies and one rolling 
stock company either entering or interested in the S market lately and have 
brought in some of their products including a few I had made.  Unfortunately 
kits and details don't make the profit made by rolling stock and engines.   Too 
bad SHS and AM are cutting off or reducing dealer products as they have been 
the bread and butter items.   Unfortunately some other companies that have been 
around for a while don't seem to understand the basic marketing principal that 
you have to change the models you offer on a regular basis or suffer reduced 
sales.

 I am now of the opinion that not only are S people their own worst enemy but 
that dealers who carry S have to be masochists as well.   After over 10 years 
of promoting S as a dealer in  northern California and showing products at 
shows with an average of  8 tables of almost all new S products, setting up a 
portable layout table at shows and club events, including out of state, and 
helping to bring  in numerous new people to S like John Gibson and others, it 
brings disappointment  that the buyers in California fail to think of the 
bountiful S in their own back yard and the dealer who would try to sate their 
needs if they would only communicate and buy local.  Yes, mine is not now a 
store easy to visit, but the phone and email work just the same here as it does 
out of state.  

To help promote S, I offered to put S inventory in 2 large train stores in 
northern california a while back at my cost and to share sales.  Not interested 
they say as  volume won't pay for retail shelf space and S people are too cheap 
to buy retail.

That said, there are some very pleasant local California and Nevada buyers who 
have made the pain of being a dealer of S somewhat workable for a while so long 
as profit is not expected beyond covering costs.  Without having other 
retirement income, being an S dealer would be a disaster and stupid for me to 
continue.    As to the high rail issue vs scale, I can only say that if not for 
the high railer sales, everyone knows or should know that S would be nothing 
close to the size it is.  Unfortunately I was naive enough in the beginning to 
think that we could merge the scale and high railers into joint efforts but 
found that is like asking the Republicans and Democrats to love each other.    
One high rail club I was a member of actually lost members because the true 
blue AC Gilbert guys didn't want to contaminate the club with Flyonel, SHS, AM 
or newer things.  The San Diego show I did recently was an exception with the 
scale guys having their modules in the Flyer Fest West show and a mixture of 
both high and scale guys.  Nice guys there.

Wondering about my sanity, I  brought out a few new products for the S crowd 
recently with two to be in the January S Guagian.   It will be interesting to 
see if it is worth continuing to do so.  I will also be at the O an S Scale 
show in January in Santa Clara with another 8 tables of new S products as well 
as being at the Sacramento convention show next summer.     

Howard Sheffield
Howard' S Trains
Fort Bragg, CA





On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Scale S Only wrote:

> I ran into that too, but as I was a scale S guy, I kept going until 
> suppliers started to disappear. I sold the shop not long after...
> 
> Bill Winans (former owner of Big Boys Toys/ Palmdale Hobbies)
> Prescott Valley, AZ
> 
> How many more stories like this exist around the country?
> Ed L.
> 
> ----S scalers are their own worst enemy. 
> 
> 



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