Hello Carey: I understand completely on the desire to use prefabricated sectional track. I have seen some VERY nice layouts on youtube that used the SHS system. It would have been great for a larger switch to have been made before the China Syndrome hit... but it is what it is.
In my case, I'm slowly learning that everything model railroading is going to have to be easy and quick. For some reason I just don't have the modeling energy, stamina, or commitment to stay hooked up. Trackwork and wiring is definitely a bottleneck (fodder for procrastination) for me now. Any segment of the hobby that you can streamline and make easier will aid the other segments that take time. Good luck. Andre Ming ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Probst" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Fw: Unbelievable I hope all agree because I have seen some of Mike's earlier work on the S-Trains list and it is really nice. S Scale apples is an interesting twist. All hand made if memory serves me. Plus I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list who has a combination of S Scale, Hi Rail and AF. I started in AF at minus 4 months (dad bought me a train set for Christmas '48 and I was born the following April) so I guess I've been in S longer than I've been alive. I have since been scratchbuilding scale cars and adding mostly scale to my collection but on occasion I will add an AF piece I really like. My big decision now that I am looking for a retirement home with space for a layout is how to build it to accommodate both scale and hi-rail. I'm debating between code 131 rail that handles both or having 2 sections, 1 for hi-rail/AF equipment and 1 for scale. Since I will be either hand laying or using SHS or other commercial track, not AF, I believe the scale should run nicely on the hi-rail part, just not the opposite. Any comments before I get started would be appreciated before I start acquiring track. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 11/13/2010 11:10 PM, Pieter Roos wrote: > > From what Roger describes, I see no reason why Mike's layout should > not be of interest to this list. AF is "off limits" in terms of how to > repair reverse units, or how many variations of a particular car were > made. Just as Jace's comments on converting AF cars to scale are > in-scope, a well scenic-ed layout featuring craftsman kit or scratch > built structures is certainly welcome in my view. In the same vein > that Brooks Stover is welcome to comment or upload photos of his > layout at any time. > > Discussions of why we should all use highrail standards (or the > reverse, for that matter) are NOT of particular interest. How someone > builds models, especially quality models, should always be welcome. I > think Bill will agree whole heartedly with me. > > So far as I am concerned as co-owner of the list, Mike is free to > upload away! > > Pieter E. Roos > > --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Roger Nulton <[email protected] > <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net>> wrote: > > > From: Roger Nulton <[email protected] > <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net>> > > Mike sent me some pictures off > > list. He has a really fun layout. Very nicely > > done. Lots of craftsman kit structures, well built and > > finished. The apple orchard and cornfield are > > outstanding: the cornfield is the best I’ve seen! My > > wife loves the baseball field and I may have to make room > > for one on my layout now, drat <g>. > > > > He has conquered DCC as well. The layout is high > > rail, though, and may be disparaged by some on this list, > > sadly. > > > > Great job, Mike! Thanks for sharing the photos with > > me. > > > > Roger Nulton > > (AF>Hirailer>S Scaler) > > > > From: Michael & Linda Marmer > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:43 AM > > To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Fw: Unbelievable > > > > > > Hi Roger, > > > > I never had a photo album on my layout on this list, sorry > > about the mis-lead on the email. > > > > The reason I never had a album here, as it is not a > > strictly scale layout, but a mixture of kits, new track, not > > AF, Plasticville and AF accessories, that blend in nicely. > > > > I did want to violate any rules on this list about writing > > about AF, as this is the list list for it nor having > > pictures. > > > > My main reason for posting this message was to show you how > > a person who is into O gauge and has no clue about S, that > > he was very impressed about the S things he saw on the > > layout which has many scale things on it. > > > > I can make a photo album on it, if the group says that is > > okay. > > > > I did contact CTT yesterday about the layout which I know > > is not a magazine for scale things. > > > > Mike Marmer > > > > From: Roger Nulton > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:26 PM > > To: S Trains ; S Scale ; Steve Conard > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Fw: Unbelievable > > > > Those are some nice compliments, Mike. You should be proud! > > What's your > > photo album called and where is it located? I can't find > > it. > > Roger Nulton > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael & Linda Marmer > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 6:09 PM > > To: S Trains ; S Scale ; Steve Conard > > Subject: {S-Scale List} Fw: Unbelievable > > > > Some of you have seen the finished pictures of my layout, > > as I do have a > > photo album on the list, but have not updated it for some > > time. > > > > I am on the TCA list and I think David Dewey, Bruce > > DeGailler, Sr. and I are > > the only S people on the list for the TCA. It is usually me > > writing about 2 > > rail track vs. 3 rail track in fun. Oh wait, Jim Lyle is on > > the list, sorry > > Jim, I almost missed you here. > > > > Anyway, Doug, below and I go at it in fun and today I sent > > him pictures of > > my layout. > > > > Here is his reply below from a O gauger, as many O gaugers, > > do not know much > > about AF or the new products for S today. > > > > Doug wrote some nice things about the layout and Linda and > > me. > > > > I have been in touch with Roger Carp till August as I told > > him the layout > > was done, as he said he would get back to me, as last year > > he was pushing me > > to get the layout done for the magazine. Well, it is done. > > LOL I just > > emailed him about it. > > > > My layout does not have fancy landscaping, mountains, two > > level track, but > > it has a personality of its own, as the ideas just came as > > I went along. I > > got kits from BTS, Bar Mills, GCLaser, and some others, it > > has Plasticville > > on it that is painted and blends in well. It has AF > > accessories on it and > > they blend in well. It has has track on it from > > www.classictrains.com with > > their scale crushed ballast as Roger really like the > > ballast on it. It is > > a good mix of AF thing and scale things using S Helper > > trains, cars and > > engines and some AF converted to DCC engines with several > > DCC action AF > > cars. > > > > And the baseball field with all the AF smoke fluid funnels > > on the baseball > > lights, all 64 bulbs. > > > > Many ideas come from several on this list and the TCA list, > > as well as from > > Linda. Hence the Apple Orchard she has on the layout. > > > > Anyway, just thought I would share what someone in O gauge > > who had no idea > > about S had to say about it. > > > > Thank you for reading. > > > > Mike Marmer > > > > From: Doug > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:47 PM > > To: Michael & Linda Marmer > > Subject: Unbelievable > > > > Hi, Mike... > > > > What a labor of love that layout is! And how proud you must > > be for all the > > joy that both Linda and the trains must bring into your > > life. You are one > > lucky guy, I hope you know that. > > > > What I find so outstanding about your layout is the > > observation that it is > > not all junked up with clap-trap pieces of rubbish. So many > > model train > > layouts lack only the kitchen sink, but they are just a > > thoughtless > > hodge-podge of toy-like stuff. I do not see that anywhere > > in evidence on > > your painstakingly accurate design and implementation. It's > > as though we > > were viewing a real-world scene from a little helicopter > > hovering over the > > layout. You have gone to incredible ends to make everything > > as reminiscent > > of the prototypical as you possibly could. > > > > Until you sent me those great pictures—and thanks tons > > for going to all the > > work in assembling them for me—I would read your posts on > > the TTML, but I > > could not appreciate what you were writing about. The > > pictures change > > everything! > > > > My own "retro O-27 Lionel layout" is still in the design > > stage while I put > > the finishing touches to a year-long project of > > hand-crafting 50 DVDs of my > > high school reunion. I organized it, I did the videography > > (over an hour's > > worth) and then I was elected class historian when we all > > got together in > > August of 2009. > > > > Thank you once again, Mike, for taking the time to share > > your love and > > passion about "S" gauge/scale with me. You have every right > > to toot that > > horn of yours just as loudly as you can!!! > > > > Doug > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [email protected] > <mailto:S-Scale-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4984 (20100330) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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