Frisco modernized many of its coaches with the turntle-back roof. About 1954 many of the Chicago Great Western baggage cars and mial-baggage cars came from its Oelwein shops with turtle-backed roofs. I do not recall seeing any turtle-backed roofs on cars from the GN, NP, CB&Q, C&NW, M&StL, RI, and the KCS had ONE turtle-backed roof car--a mail-baggage/express car #6 that had been worked over by the CGW and given the turtle-backed roof and painted in CGW solid maroon, a color it retained durings its service on the KCS. The car itself had come from the MKT as car #225.
Tom _____ From: [email protected] on behalf of Bob McCarthy Sent: Thu 3/10/2011 6:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for AM heavy weight passenger cars Bill, The roofs of heavy weight cars began receiving air conditioning ducts in the 1930's according to what I have read. With the advent of streamlined passenger cars various efforts were made to upgrade heavy weight cars. Railroads either applied the streamline roofs or turtle back type to help with the appearance in older cars or completely rebuilt them with sealed windows and made everything look like their new modern cars. Rebuilt cars were common in the SE on the ACL, CofGa, NC&STL, SAL and others. Am certain that others on this list can identify railroads in other parts of the country which did similar modifications.. The only easy way to spot these cars at a glance was by noting the trucks they road upon were heavy weight trucks. Bob McCarthy --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Bill Rigsby <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill Rigsby <[email protected]> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for AM heavy weight passenger cars To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 8:31 AM Bob, When or what era were the moderized roof placed on Heavyweight cars? Bill --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Bob McCarthy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bob McCarthy <[email protected]> Subject: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for AM heavy weight passenger cars To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 2:29 PM Howdy, Dick's comments are appreciated. The first roofs we did will fit anmy AM Heavy Weight passenger car. They will provide a low streamliner roof or the 'Turtle Back' roof for non modernized AM heavy weight passenger cars. We are also working on creating a cast HARRIMAN roof sized to fit the AM heavy weight cars. Many of you have asked about the newest roofs. Hope to have them ready by the convention in July. Let me know whether you want rivet or welded when you replay off site. Thanks, Bob McCarthy --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Richard Karnes <[email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Karnes <[email protected]> Subject: {S-Scale List} Re:Streamlined roofs To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:53 PM All -- Sometimes I am amazed by the depth of knowledge of people on this e-list, and sometimes I am amazed by the lack thereof. This is a case of the latter... At the 2009 NASG Convention in St. Louis, Bob McCarthy (The Supply Car) showed off new basswood passenger-car roof sections. There are two: a low arch and a higher arch (for most streamlined cars). These were highlighted (text and photos) in my "S-Curves" column in the Feb. 2010 issue of "Model Railroad News." Bob has also talked about them here on this e-list. Contact Bob at: [email protected] Dick Karnes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
