KCS 50 was a diner-lounge that was also re-roofed. Both had final owner
SHRHS-KCRM, 6 may still exist. DJE
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Baker
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for
AM heavy weight passenger cars
Frisco modernized many of its coaches with the turntle-back roof. About 1954
many of the Chicago Great Western baggage cars and mial-baggage cars came from
its Oelwein shops with turtle-backed roofs. I do not recall seeing any
turtle-backed roofs on cars from the GN, NP, CB&Q, C&NW, M&StL, RI, and the KCS
had ONE turtle-backed roof car--a mail-baggage/express car #6 that had been
worked over by the CGW and given the turtle-backed roof and painted in CGW
solid maroon, a color it retained durings its service on the KCS. The car
itself had come from the MKT as car #225.
Tom
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From: [email protected] on behalf of Bob McCarthy
Sent: Thu 3/10/2011 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for AM
heavy weight passenger cars
Bill,
The roofs of heavy weight cars began receiving air conditioning ducts in the
1930's according to what I have read. With the advent of streamlined passenger
cars various efforts were made to upgrade heavy weight cars.
Railroads either applied the streamline roofs or turtle back type to help
with the appearance in older cars or completely rebuilt them with sealed
windows and made everything look like their new modern cars. Rebuilt cars were
common in the SE on the ACL, CofGa, NC&STL, SAL and others.
Am certain that others on this list can identify railroads in other parts of
the country which did similar modifications.. The only easy way to spot these
cars at a glance was by noting the trucks they road upon were heavy weight
trucks.
Bob McCarthy
--- On Thu, 3/10/11, Bill Rigsby <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Bill Rigsby <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for
AM heavy weight passenger cars
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 8:31 AM
Bob,
When or what era were the moderized roof placed on Heavyweight cars?
Bill
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Bob McCarthy <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Bob McCarthy <[email protected]>
Subject: {S-Scale List} Streamlined, Turtle Back and Harriman roofs for AM
heavy weight passenger cars
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 2:29 PM
Howdy,
Dick's comments are appreciated. The first roofs we did will fit anmy AM
Heavy Weight passenger car. They will provide a low streamliner roof or the
'Turtle Back' roof for non modernized AM heavy weight passenger cars.
We are also working on creating a cast HARRIMAN roof sized to fit the AM
heavy weight cars. Many of you have asked about the newest roofs. Hope to have
them ready by the convention in July.
Let me know whether you want rivet or welded when you replay off site.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Richard Karnes <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Richard Karnes <[email protected]>
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re:Streamlined roofs
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:53 PM
All --
Sometimes I am amazed by the depth of knowledge of people on this e-list, and
sometimes I am amazed by the lack thereof. This is a case of the latter...
At the 2009 NASG Convention in St. Louis, Bob McCarthy (The Supply Car) showed
off new basswood passenger-car roof sections. There are two: a low arch and a
higher arch (for most streamlined cars). These were highlighted (text and
photos) in my "S-Curves" column in the Feb. 2010 issue of "Model Railroad
News." Bob has also talked about them here on this e-list.
Contact Bob at: [email protected]
Dick Karnes
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