Where do I start.
I am up very early because a head cold won't let me sleep. I will apologize in advance because I will be wandering here. The events of the past few days have been a real eye opener for me, with even close friends were rather critical of things I supposedly should have done. I will admit that it stung quite a bit, but mostly have a feeling of why should I have to "defend" myself? Perhaps if I lay it out for all to see it will make better sense. I can't say that I knew Stan all that well. We would go through periods of a few emails and photos of what we were working on exchanged and then periods of no contact. Like most of us, I admired his work greatly. I was completely interested in a few photos from Stan of his gondolas with containers. I made it known to Stan that I would like to have some containers but it did not happen. I am unemployed for almost 4 years now. When the estate list from Jeff Wilson came out I should not have looked at it but I did. I knew that I could not afford the higher dollar items that were Stan's best work. I felt like I wanted something from him to help me remember his modeling spirit. I saw the AM gondola with containers and a depressed center flat car. I have a small collection of items built from "famous S Scalers" that has great value to me. These items would fit right in. I put my thumb on them and Jeff sent me some photos. Jeff was kind enough to sit on the cars for almost 2 months until I could pay him. When I opened the box about 3 weeks ago the thought of a project did not hit me right away. But when I saw a container that could be used as a master pattern my first thought was - wow - I can make a project and others can share in a piece of things that Stan made. That is pretty frigging innocent if you asked me. The caster that made my passenger car roof set a reasonable minimum quantity that frankly I was wondering if I would hit. Well I greatly underestimated that point. I announced the possible project last week and let it go. Among other things I was very busy getting our house ready for our first party of the year. By the time I found out that there were issues about the project on Monday morning it had already been raging all weekend long into a full blown incident. I was told things like "intellectual property", a lawsuit, and "stealing from the poor widow" were told to me over a chunk of plastic I bought. I was rather floored over the whole thing when I heard this. In the mean time I have a stack of unpaid bills and a true $17.00 in my checking account. I don't have time for such drama - I have to hustle to make the bills go away. When the question of "Copyrights" came up on the list I did not reply because I felt my conscious was clear. I will divert for 1 second here by saying this in the absolute nicest most restrained way I possibly can. If Edward Loizeaux took issue with me reproducing something that he felt was his, why could be not contact me first? Why am I the frigging bad guy here? Pull up a chair here kiddies this is going to get deep. We will get to integrity in a minute. I have since also been accused of creating this drama myself and censorship of Edward Loizeaux by putting him on moderation and I "have it out for him" questioning why I out him on in the first place. Again I am the bad guy. I cannot release something unless it is posted. Again I am the bad guy. Let's go to http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/message/74256 The first paragraph was sent to me as proof that I am a petty by stifling Ed for posting at will. But Ed did no wrong. I am not allowed to be offended by the tone and criticism leveled by Ed. I put him on moderation for no reason. Further there has been no mention of asking to be removed from moderation or Olive Branch of any kind from Ed. I guess it matters to you and accusing me of being PETTY more than it actually matters to Ed himself. Amazingly Ed is not even posting and still causing the S Scale list drama. Guess what. I just took Ed off of moderation. You will all get to read exactly what Ed does not post. And just where is Ed's account of how and where he felt his objections? I have responded but he has not even though he has had ample time. If you think for 1 second I have blocked his response ask him. [email protected] I can assure you he has not tried to post his account or press release to the S Scale list. But I am the guilty bad guy for trying to bring a new item to the S market - unfortunately I did not know I had to cower and ask for Mighty Ed's blessing first. Check I got that one down fine just now. Can I please be exonerated for my sins in the court of S Scale approval? Now for the meat of this discussion. Let's talk about integrity in terms of offering to the S world and the commitment to making it happen. How many people here have: Tried to import 2 S Scale brass cars that were a complete disaster. This included having to personally paint 150 cars that **all** needed some kind of repair. This worst mistake of my life is still ongoing after 13+ years later. I just painted a car last week that we will have to get into someone hands. The history of S Scale is full of crooks with good intentions that take deposits and you never ever see the items. I am still on the job. Designed and produced item because it was not currently available in S Scale. I **gave** Don Thompson the reproduction rights to the Archbar truck http://www.showcaseline.com/Parts/trucks_in_stock.html I did not make a dime on it - ever. Since I was just learning Solidworks it was well over 100 hours of design time. I did not even want an Archbar truck!. I literally only have 2 pairs of them. Don wanted to keep the item alive so I agreed and let him sell the trucks. Managed a small niche item project with rave results. http://www.lanestrains.com/Reading_Roof.jpg In the end I owe no one a dime on promised made and not shipped. How dare anyone reading this question my integrity! I can't remember when I was so offended last. Of wait, that is not true. It is when Mighty Ed referred to me as "The moderator" in a tone like I was obliged to serve his every wish. Now by a show of hands - how many people here have something made in the past 15 years (The same time frame I have been offering items to the S Scale populous) that Ed Loizeaux produced and offering for public sale? Anyone? How many of you have given deposits to things Ed organized or urged you to buy and still have nothing to show for it? Anyone? It seems to me that train projects with Ed Loizeaux's fingerprints on them have yet to reach the station. Some people make things and deliver. Others just complain about it all. Ed wants to make these projects and keep them to himself (his prerogative) and not offer a few to his alleged S friends. I share in my labors. Again I am the bad guy - robbing the widow and ripping off Ed's alleged claim to a piece of plastic I bought. I will send Ed an X29 or a G26 (because Ed never supported Pennsy S Models and actually bought one) and let him copy cast my project. Will that call us even yet? This whole drama stops here and now. Because of this mess and massive attacks on my name by Ed and others I am continuing the Container project without using anything that has Ed Loizeaux associated with it. I am making a new master pattern using Solidworks. It will be a better product then Ed never offered that can be sold gilt free to the Eddites in California because best of all it will be California Whine free. I am even considering adding a second container pattern to the project that is true PRR lineage. I just need to get the additional support for it. After over 2 hours+ of writing starting at 3:30 AM I will end here. I have been truly offended over this thing. I truly can't believe such things could happen with people I held closely as my friends. I had thought about quitting the project, but I can't' do that. I always try and take the high road. Best of all I deliver on my promises and I sleep well at night with a clear conscious. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988 See my finished models at: <http://www.lanestrains.com/> http://www.lanestrains.com Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! 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