Pieter,

Actually Sn3 trucks and HO standard gauge trucks are close is size, and in
the early days of Sn3 (before P-B-L), some modelers used HO arch bar trucks,
with the wheels pushed in because they were easier rolling.  A HO truck with
a common 5' (HO) wheelbase is longer than a Sn3 3'-7" wheelbase, which was
one problem with using HO trucks.  Wheel size is important.  Most 3'gauge
wheels were 26" or 24"; on 2' gauge, 18" was common.  36" was a steam
locomotive driver size!

I think On30 trucks are better suited for S standard gauge than S narrow
gauge.

Dave Heine
Easton, PA


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Pieter Roos
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Re: Newbie with questions

Hi David;

Good ideas, although I would look at On30 or re-gauged Sn3 trucks to run
under the standard gauge cars - an HO truck would just disappear!

Pieter E. Roos


--- On Tue, 10/18/11, David Heine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chad,
> 
> I sounds like you're new to model trains, but I don't know
> how much model
> building experience you have.  It sounds like you want
> an S scale layout on
> which you can run HO gauged equipment, so thus Sn42. 
> There are some motive
> power options, but most require some modeling work.
> 
> For steam, if you can get an old Mantua/Tyco 4-6-0, they
> are really Sn42,
> including the cab.  If you change the details (air
> pump, bell, domes, etc.)
> they can look better in S than HO.  I did one years
> ago, but regauged it to
> Sn3; you wouldn't need to change the gauge.
> 
> RailMaster makes some Sn3 diesel kits that can be powered
> with HO diesel
> mechanisms, which in your case don't need to be regauged
> for Sn42.
> 
> Some modern narrow gauge railroads run some large diesels
> on meter gauge
> track; think SD-45's with D-D trucks or large GE's with
> B+B-B+B trucks.  I
> made a "what if" large narrow gauge diesel one time from a
> AM GP35 shell and
> a C-C HO diesel mechanism, which I regauged in my case, to
> Sn3.  So rather
> than worrying about narrowing an S locomotive, you could
> just put a HO
> mechanism under it, if you can find a wheel base that is
> close.  It isn't
> that hard to stretch an HO diesel mechanism, just more
> work.  I stretched
> one for my model of EBT M-1 from a RailMaster kit. 
> You're on your own
> though for matting the mechanism and shell.  In the
> case of my GP35, some
> styrene pieces glued to the shell were needed to get it to
> sit on the frame.
> 
> Some narrow gauge railroads did carry standard gauge cars
> on narrow gauge
> trucks.  The Newfoundland Railway was 42" and did that
> sort of thing.  You
> could just put HO trucks on an S scale car and accomplish
> the same thing.  I
> would stick to smaller S scale cars though.  I still
> have a 40' boxcar with
> Sn3 trucks on it that I test ran on my old layout; it
> worked without
> incident and the Kadee 802 couplers even worked with the HO
> ones on my Sn3
> equipment. Remember, you then need to have full S standard
> gauge clearances.
> 
> Remember, it's your railroad and you can do what you
> want.  And if you
> really want fun, there's always the dual gauge option, but
> that requires
> hand laying track.
> 
> Dave Heine
> Easton, PA



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