Jace,
I believe I have about a dozen of Iain Rices UK books.  Every past time has at 
least one great thinker who raises the level above the rest.  I think of Dr. 
Robert Elmer in archery.  In model railway design I place Iain Rice at the top 
of the list.  The US books barely touch on his genius.

Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine  


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>From: JGG KahnSr <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM
>Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} RE: Great Model (S) Railroads
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>Again, relying solely on memory, I think the Introduction to 7MM Modeling was 
>published by Wild Swann (which does the most-advanced UK modeling magazine,
>Model Railway Journal, as well as top-drawer monographs on British prototype 
>railways, especially their branchlines and light railways--Iain Rice, now 
>better
>known from publishing various track plans for Kalmbach, did a 
>wonderfully-inspiring book for Wild Swann on trackplans based on prototype 
>branches and
>light railways) rather than the GOG.
>
>Jace Kahn
>
>General Manager 
>Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
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>> To: [email protected]
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:42:21 -0800
>> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} RE: Great Model (S) Railroads
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>> I brought up the Introduction to Modern O Scale as an excellent example of 
>> what we could do. You weren't a member of the list then. The UK Gauge O 
>> Guild has done a wonderful job of promoting 7mm. I have a PDF of their Small 
>> Layouts pub that never fails to inspire.
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>> 
>> Ed Kozlowsky
>> Sanford, Maine 
>> 
>> 
>> >________________________________
>> >From: JGG KahnSr <[email protected]>
>> >To: [email protected]
>> >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:29 PM
>> >Subject: {S-Scale List} RE: Great Model (S) Railroads
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>> >Since some on the list also have a background in O scale, I am surprised no 
>> >one has yet mentioned one of the
>> >early projects of OST not long after it began publication--the Introduction 
>> >to O scale model railroading written
>> >[mostly] by Brian Scace, then editor of OST. It was an attempt (largely 
>> >successful, I think) to present a contemporary
>> >portrait of what is possible in O scale for those who were unfamiliar with 
>> >it but might have at least some interest
>> >in exploring the possibility. It very deliberately addressed the 
>> >distinction between toy trains and scale while also
>> >suggesting what might be possible for an average model railroader who 
>> >didn't feel ready to scratchbuild everything
>> >to an impossibly-high standard.
>> >Our British friends have had something similar (I'd need to dig out my copy 
>> >for details to refresh my memory), an
>> >introduction to the full panoply of 7mm scale railroading. There was a 
>> >second volume, as well (can't recall whether
>> >I also bought that). Both are excellent armchair reading and inspiration 
>> >for anyone who is just starting or contemplating
>> >starting in a new scale. I think both sold around $15-20 for a quality 
>> >publication with first-rate illustrations.
>> >
>> >Jace Kahn
>> >
>> >General Manager 
>> >Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
>> >
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:47:08 +0000
>> >> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Great Model (S) Railroads
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>> >> 
>> >> --- In [email protected], Pieter Roos <pieter_roos@...> wrote:
>> >> > I just want to clarify why I proposed the article-a-year in GMR. Do you 
>> >> > buy the O scale magazines? The On30 Annual that Cartens publishes? 
>> >> > While having an all-S version of GMR or a new S Handbook certainly says 
>> >> > something about S and would be a great thing for all of US to read, why 
>> >> > would a modeler in HO or O scale buy it An article in GMR every year, 
>> >> > year after year, would be seen by modelers in the other scales and 
>> >> > leave the impression after a few years that yes, people really do model 
>> >> > (and well) in S.
>> >> > 
>> >> >
>> >> I totally agree. I still recall Roger Nulton's layout article years ago 
>> >> making me realize that S could be done to high standards in an average 
>> >> space within a reasonable budget, it was something that caught the eye of 
>> >> modelers in all scales. I don't think I'd ever seen an S layout that made 
>> >> me think that before and I haven't seen one in print since then although 
>> >> I might have missed some. I've seen Ed L's layout in person and know it 
>> >> is GMR material so there's at least one waiting in the wings and I 
>> >> imagine there could be enough around the country to give them one article 
>> >> per year if that became a goal.
>> >> As Pieter said other S scale specific magazines only are only bought by 
>> >> folks already in the scale while GMR and the online MRH magazine are read 
>> >> by mainstream modelers in the most popular scales so they can't overlook 
>> >> S as they thumb thru the mags. 
>> >> The key is the layouts presented have to be top quality, built to the 
>> >> latest standards of detailing , design , and scale fidelity. The American 
>> >> Flyer roots is not a selling point or a desirable connection to make when 
>> >> trying to interest real scale modelers, they don't really care that the 
>> >> Spiral Hill was a pioneering S layout, they want to know what can you do 
>> >> for me today. 
>> >> All scales of layout look about the same in print so an S highrail layout 
>> >> looks about the same as an N layout sorting pizza cutter wheels and 
>> >> that's not gonna cut it with the modern modelers who are used to buying 
>> >> well detailed models right out of the box.The state of the art progresses 
>> >> at a rapid pace and S needs to get in gear and get moving.It would be a 
>> >> shame for this sweet size to drop out just from lack of exposure and lack 
>> >> of new modelers to sustain new products.
>> >> Well known N scale modeler Bernard Kempinsky is building his latest 
>> >> layout in O scale so it would be great to find a well known modeler 
>> >> interested in S for a new venture? A co-op like the midwest valley HO 
>> >> modelers group might also be a good way to get a world class layout built 
>> >> and published? Regards, DaveBranum 
>> >> 
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