The basic patterns in S Scale are,(1)if you do not need it then no one else should need it
(2) Also in order to get what you want, act, or state you don't want "it" Then the manufacturer will definitely make it. It's Ron Bashistas fault. We all wanted F-3's. So Ron made F-7s. Use this approach and you will get it all sooner or later But if Ron had not done that we would not have anything in S Scale. Rex had sort of disappeared. John Sudimak saved that. This all comes from my experiences beginning with CD kits way back before the war. John Armstrong ALSO Jack Sudimak is in rehab. He needs more than a boost so send him a card. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ostertag To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 6:00 PM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: All or nothing at all Bob, You hit the nail on the head. I am a prototype modeler. So with that, comes the need to take a stock model and modify it to suit the specific model I wish to have on my layout. In the case of the Milwaukee Road GP20 model I am doing, you are right and wrong with where it came from. It actually did come from EMD originally. However, it was a GP9 when born. The Milwaukee chopped the short hood at the Milwaukee, WI shops, and also lowered the third door from the cab on the long hood to accomodate an ox yoke air filter. So you are absolutely right when saying that individual parts are a need of mine. However, I also believe that there is a difference between having a model railroad and being a model railroader. If out of the box is good enough for someone, then that's fine. However it's not for me or for a lot of guys. I want to be able to create specific models and I don't care how long it takes to achieve that. My personal satisfaction in the hobby is being able to take a plain block of clay and mold it into something great and beautiful. In this case my block of clay is an AM GP9. I don't know why when things like detail parts are brought up in this scale it's almost always met with resistance. This makes no sense to me. I don't know why a larger availability of products scares this scale so much. It needs to evolve and I will not stop trying to get it to do that. Thanks Michael Ostertag On 8/17/2012 3:59 PM, Bob Werre wrote: There is always the debate whether to cut into an engine (brass or plastic) and how it will effect it's value later on. I think much of this can be answered in the early HO brass market. Old brass with their open frame motors, crude gearboxes, and cold solder joints are all over the place. I'm sure they will get your money back but as an investment--not likely! I'm sure there will be similar things happening with what's coming out now--do I buy an older used OMI E-8, or a more recent RR E-8 or one from American Models! I bit the bullet way back when I added stantions on the hoods, a different bell and large side number boards (all Milw changes) to my original Alco Models RSD-4. That was pretty scary but now I wish I would have gone further with it. And the same things that plagued early brass also plagued most of those Alco Models engines--so I doubt if they would bring original price unless they have been worked on__I hear Bill Winans does a nice job in mixing things up! In the case of Michael and his Milw GP-20. If I'm not mistaken, the Milwaukee built their own creatures and were not from EMD. So it might be that he might be one of three modelers wanting those engines in any scale. This means that individual parts will suit him fairly well while others might need a more complete model. Bob Werre > That's a way to get a less common loco but for mainstream locos it seems very inefficient. By the time one buys a loco, tears it apart , buys a replacement shell and paints and decals it the investment in time and money is very high. For short run items brass makes more sense to me at it has a collector value as well as a runner value. The RR 44 tonners for example have held their value quite well. .....DaveBranum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7395 (20120817) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7395 (20120817) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
