Bob:

You're right, I drive the old gravel roads - with piece of window screen and a 
container so I can grab some ballast while I'm out there.

Right now, I've been respringing some N'eastern trucks with Kadee #637 truck 
springs with relative success, sans the ones that "blue yonder" on me. Those 
springs have some cushion action, too. I've also used Kadee HO-T-1 (house part 
number) with great success. They resemble the soft version of the old Ace 
springs.

I just bit the bullet and ordered some wheelsets from Fred Rouse. That should 
serve my future needs for a while. What we need is for the NASG to make a run 
of the old Ace steel wheelsets. Tey're always looking for something to do that 
won't compete with the manufacturers and I'm sure this wouldn't. They wouldn't 
have to be something exotic, either, just a basic wheelset like the Ace.

I'm curious about the AM truck springs on an FA. Was the size close to correct?

boB Nicholson _____________________________________________________


--- In [email protected], Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
>
> One of our former members and rubber gauger, put AM truck springs on a 
> pair of Overland FA's.  The replacements made a wonderful improvement.  
> There is an old Kalmbach video made of 1st generation diesels, showing 
> an engine negotiating it's way across some frogs where it twists, turns 
> and bounces.  Those model FA's did pretty much the same thing.
> 
> Jack Troxell tried an experiment with the older powdered AM 125 
> wheelsets.  He put them on his lathe and turned the profile to the 
> correct 110 size and got rid of the granular appearance of the wheel's 
> surface.  I don't think he made more than a handful of them--probably 
> too time consuming.
> 
> In thinking about all the wheelsets I've used over the years--wow.  I 
> started out with mostly the Millers' and some Rex.  I liked the Rex 
> trucks (Rex had brake shoes) mated with the Miller wheels.  Problem was 
> the wheel-set were getting hard to get, so I bought the Ace wheel 
> bearing/wheelsets and installed on the Rex and NE trucks and everything 
> rolled much better.  Then NWSL wheels became available and I got rid of 
> most of my old stuff with much improvement.  Of course the more modern 
> AM, PRS and then SHS trucks did even better.
> 
> All this shows where we were in the 70's and how much better things are 
> today generally!  My good friend boB can drive along the old gravel road 
> but I find the freeway just fine! <G>
> 
> Bob Werre
> PhotoTraxx
> 
> 
> > Bud:
> >
> > Good suggestion, I've just been to lazy to do it! As far as a magnet 
> > on a stick, these springs don't seem to be magnetically attracted to 
> > anything! Also, Kadee HO-T-1 (in house part number springs are close 
> > to the old Ace springs in size and length, but slightly softer. They 
> > fit in Ace truck sides real well and produce a nice soft ride. I've 
> > also used them in some N'eastern Andrews trucks. More on this as it 
> > develops.
> >
> > Last night, I bought several sets of Ace wheelsets on Ebay to get me 
> > through the current crisis. I can't help it, I still miss the good ol' 
> > days when we improvised and struggled to get what we wanted rather 
> > than wait for some mnufacturer to produce it for us at an astronomical 
> > price. I'm glad I got my RS2 and RS-3's when I could afford them. Old 
> > dog, new tricks, I guess.
> >
> > boB Nicholson ___________________________________________________
> >
> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> > "Bud Rindfleisch" <BlackDiamondRR@> wrote:
> > >
> > > boB, For those "fidgety" springs that seem to fly away at the most 
> > inoppertune times, a suggestion that you of all people should be able 
> > to take advantage of: slide the springs onto a "string", install in 
> > place then pull the "string" out!
> > > And next time I visit, I'll bring my yardstick with a magnet on the 
> > end, I should be able to save myself some money on springs!
> > > Bud Rindfleisch
> > >
> > > > I would like to point out that Kadee HO-T-1 coil springs are a 
> > close representation of the Ace springs, maybe a little softer, which 
> > ought to make them excellent performers on an S scale layout. Their 
> > #637 truck springs also work in N'eastern trucks, even though a little 
> > fidgety to install. My basement floor is littered with them.
> > > >
> > > > boB Nicholson ____________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>




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