On 9/19/07, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm gradually moving some of my computations from Mathematica to SAGE.
> One of the things that I use quite a bit in Mathematica is the
> Combinatorica package, which provides quite a lot of graph operations.
> So this morning I went through and compared the sage graph library with
> the Combinatorica library, made a list of equivalent functions, and
> finished by making a list of functions available in Combinatorica, but
> not in SAGE.  I plan to whittle away at this list as I have time, but

Excellent!!

> I'd also like to post it somewhere so that people with much more
> experience than I can comment and/or implement whatever they want.
> Where is the most appropriate place to put it?  The wiki?  If the wiki
> or the trac is the right place, can I have an account on it?

The trac server is the best place.  Please send me an offlist
email with your requested login name and silly password (just
to avoid spam).

> Right now, the list of equivalent functions is an OpenOffice
> spreadsheet.  I've listed every SAGE graph function I could find with
> the corresponding Combinatorica function (if one exists) and made some
> notes of different implementation choices.

It would be wonderful to have this converted into latex so it can
be added to the graph theory chapter of the reference manual.

>  In doing this, I noticed a
> few things I'd love to hear some comments on.  Of course, most of
> knowledge of the sage graph library is based on reading the docs, so if
> there is something that I don't understand or don't know, let me know!
>
> * There seems to be some confusion (or redundancy) between the terms
> "vertices" and "nodes" in the documentation.  Is there a difference
> between the two?
>
> * Edges have "labels", while vertices have "names" and associated
> objects.  I presume that an integer label for an edge signifies an edge
> weight.  Is there some way we can unify these concepts?  Perhaps having
> a "name" and other metadata associated with both edges and vertices.
> Maybe we could just have a dictionary associated with each edge or
> vertex, with a guaranteed key of "name" and "weight" (defaulting to ""
> and 1, respectively).
>
> * I vote that we change "arc" terminology to "edge" terminology in the
> directed graph class.  It seems that the only difference between the
> input and output of these functions (the "arc" functions versus the
> "edge" functions) is that one is associated with the directed class and
> the other associated with the undirected class.  Yes, the interpretation
> is different, but you'd expect that when calling a function from two
> different classes.  I think the terminology is unnecessarily
> complicated.  (but prove me wrong and give me the reason for doing it
> this way :)
>
>
> Overall, I was very impressed with how much functionality is in SAGE,
> but not in Mathematica.  Of course, there is still quite a bit of work
> implementing the rest of the Combinatorica functions in SAGE.

Could you post a link to the spreadsheet so we can see what is left
to do?

 -- William

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