On Jul 19, 11:38 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 2:45 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 18 Jul, 20:33, "Harald Schilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > 12) Once a Solaris port is done, try to get Blastwave and Sunfreeware
> > to keep packages. I'm not sure if Blastware will, as I think they want
> > Solaris 8 packages. But I guess if it does not run on Solaris 8, they
> > might accept it.
>
> There is no way I personally will spend any time at all on Solaris 8,
> but I will certainly accept patches.
I'm not sure of their exact policy, but I believe if the software runs
under Solaris 8, the package they keep must run under Solaris 8. That
is a pain if you produce a package for them, as it means either you
need a Solaris 8 boxes (SPARC and x86), or you use their box, but that
is quite complex, as you don't get root access.
I suspect if you say "this software is specified to run under Solaris
10 or greater", then they would accept it and not insist it runs under
8. I think the issue is that if the software runs under 8, the package
must be suitable for a Solaris 8 system. I'm guessing the same must be
true for x86/SPARC - they can't insist you build both packages if the
software only runs on one. But if it does run on both, they insist you
to build it on both.
> I am willing to do Solaris 9 on
> Sparc, but Solaris 9 on x86[-x64] is likely not going to happen
> either, while the same thing about patches applies.
I don't blame you - I would do the same.
The only downside is the SPARC versions would not run on the earlier
32-bit systems (SPARC 4, SPARC 5, SPARC 10, SPARC 20 etc.) But given
an Ultra 5 is almost given away (I've seen $5 mentioned for them),
there seems to be no real reason to stick with these very old machines
(says he who has got 5 x SPARC 20 in his garage!!!).
> interested in the future Solaris 11/Express Edition. Various people
> have told me that many installs either stuck with Solaris 8 or went to
> Solaris 10, i.e. not many installs stuck with Solaris 9.
In any case, I think people running software like Sage are not not
going to be in a position of not upgrading a machine from 8 or 9 due
to company policy, or the fact their vendors database is not specified
etc.
> getting paid to support Solaris 10 and Express (and I guess 11 once it
> is out) that is where my energy will go. In the end I believe that our
> own repo will always be more current and I have no interest in
> breaking Sage up into packages. I am willing to help if other people
> want to attempt that for Solaris.
I think it would be useful if a single package for Sage on Sunfreeware
and another on Blastwave. Simply because a lot of people use them
sites, and so are more likely to install Sage if found there.
Ultimately, it would be nice to get Sun to put it on the Solaris
Express DVD, but I image that would not be quite so easy to do.
> > You might get some problems getting Sunfreewave to
> > have a package, as the owner of that site (Steve Christensen) works
> > for Wolfram Research, produces his own Mathematica addon and moderates
> > comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica. I suspect, given he does not allow
> > other software to be discussed on comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica, he
> > might be reluctant to produce a package for Sage. But you can only
> > ask.
>
> Well, let's hope for the best and assume that he will be a good guy
> about this unless there is evidence against him. I see no reason why
> his duties in the newsgroups should interfere with "Sunfreeware hat".
No, but he might not be too keen on "promoting" software which might
interfere with sales of his Tensor analysis software. I could hardly
blame him, as he obviously generates some of his income from that
software.
That said, I've had a few discussions with people who produce add-on's
for Mathematica. One is distributed by Wolfram, the other is not.
Neither seem to make much money from it. Also I've noticed a few
packages never get updated. I don't think producing a Mathematica add-
on is a cash-cow.
> > Sticking 'solaris software' into google I find www.sunfrerware.com is
> > the top hit - more than www.sun.com!!At number 4 is
> > http://www.solaris4you.dk/sunsolaris.html which is a list of free
> > solaris software.
>
> Sure, sounds like a good plan to me.
There is a lot to be said for making it very easy for someone to try
software. Not everyone is going to be too keen to build up special
tool chains to build a program they are semi interested in. They are
much more likely to install it if they see it listed when looking down
the descriptions on sunfreeware. com.
Dave
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