On 4 Aug., 11:57, Simon King <simon.k...@uni-jena.de> wrote: > On 3 Aug., 16:51, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1. I'd reverse your statement. If they make the time to read four > small lists, they will just read the same information in a single list > of medium size.
It's still easier to selectively (depending on your spare time or current main interest) read some of a couple of "small" lists you're subscribed to than to pick threads from a single bigger one, at least if the posts to the individual lists are sufficiently on topic of their respective list. > I don't receive e-mails from the sage lists, but read them in my > browser. I find it embarrassing to have to open six tabs in order to > see all interesting lists, and I find it embarrassing that very often > in four out of six tabs nothing is happening for days! It's not clear to me why you don't just subscribe to your lists of interest and the kind of e-mail you want to receive. Every e-mail will btw. e.g. have "[sage-devel]" or "[sage-nt]" in its subject line so can trivially be filtered, manually "by eye" as well as automagically. And that's the big advantage of a couple of specialized groups. Also, if you're interests change, you can easily unsubscribe one and subscribe to another group. > I'd find it less embarrassing to have less tabs open, and simply > ignore those posts whose subject line isn't appealing to me (what I do > anyway). I guess the same would hold for people receiving e-mails: > Plonking a mail after reading the subject line takes very little time. See above. I see no advantage of having a single list (nor reading lists in browser tabs btw.). > It seems to me that discussions on the category framework often > take place on sage-combinat-devel (perhaps for historical reasons), > although I think that the topic clearly belongs to sage-algebra as > well. Well, that's a problem of the sage-combinat-devel list, not of multiple lists in the first place. > Thus, even if someone is willing to read the lists of interests, s/he > is not necessarily succeeding, if there are many small lists. In > reality, s/he will *not* read all lists of interest! Well, he/she will once look what lists are available, and then subscribe to those he/she's interested in. If the lists have reasonable names and cover the topics advertised, there's not a problem. Of course sometimes topics overlap, i.e. a thread would belong to more than one list, but then it's easy to put it either on a bigger list (or trac) or one of the smaller ones, announcing the thread on the others. Jason could have done just the same: "Hey sage-devel readers, I'd like to have some feedback from you to the following sage-marketing thread: ..." Also, as mentioned earlier and also elsewhere, comprehensive reports on subjects from other lists (e.g. sage-windows) wouldn't be bad. I'd also say having a separate list for sage-windows /emphasizes/ its importance, not the contrary. > > Merging the sage-windows list with sage-devel is not the only way to > > raise alertness. Another approach would be for somebody to post > > periodic updates to sage-devel about windows porting work, along with > > a note that says: "get involved by: > > * subscribing to sage-windows; * downloading and building sage > > following the directions at http://xxx, etc." > > OK. But that isn't happening, or is it? So what? Just encourage people to do so. > > Also, there are quite a lot of people who are highly involved with > > Sage development work, and who read sage-devel, but have > > (unfortunately) zero interest in porting Sage to Windows. > > Same as above: The subject line would contain the offensive word > "Windows" or "cygwin". Not necessarily. As a separate list, it will certainly contain "[sage- windows]", which is totally unambiguous. > I have problems to understand what you mean by "barraging". Actually I > have problems to understand how you could possibly come to the idea of > using the word "barraging" for an amount of one message per day (on > average). Average is usually irrelevant. You don't receive 10 messages a day, but two on Tuesday, three on Thursday and 65 on Friday, say. Especially specific topics will have their "bursts", and so could annoy people not intentionally subscribed to them. -leif -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
