#18558: Test all installed optional packages by default
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       Reporter:  ncohen             |        Owner:
           Type:  enhancement        |       Status:  needs_review
       Priority:  major              |    Milestone:  sage-6.8
      Component:  doctest framework  |   Resolution:
       Keywords:                     |    Merged in:
        Authors:  Nathann Cohen,     |    Reviewers:
  Jeroen Demeyer                     |  Work issues:
Report Upstream:  N/A                |       Commit:
         Branch:  u/jdemeyer/18558   |  59af6983b05b6581ef1282cdec41d6e63ad82459
   Dependencies:  #18456, #18124,    |     Stopgaps:
  #18559, #18563                     |
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Comment (by ncohen):

 > I disagree, because this means that the (old) default behavior of not
 getting doctest failures will be replaced (possibly) by lots of perhaps-
 very-confusing doctest errors, with this branch.

 Okay. So let us have this conversation here. For a start, do we agree that
 we are talking about users running doctests with optional packages
 installed? If so, we cannot call them beginners.

 Since you insist on having this conversation here, I also wonder why you
 think that it is doctest-related. If you are thinking of users running an
 old version of a package, which would thus break Sage code, then clearly
 it is a problem of a much wider scope than doctest testing, isn't it ?

 In particular, I do not believe that there is anything related to that
 which can be dealt with at the level of doctest. What you request is a way
 to detect that the installed package is too old to be used for this or
 that feature, and such a feature cannot be implemented without knowing
 each package individually.

 If such a thing should be implemented, then we would need the
 `is_package_installed` function to be able to deal with version numbers,
 and thus be able to check whether the current version is sufficiently new.

 > But I don't have any specific ideas on how to solve the problem, just
 wondering how it is/will be dealt with.

 It is a question for sage-devel, unless you have strong reasons to believe
 that it should be addressed by this ticket.

 Nathann

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