Dear saligaonkarI am sure it must have cost about 70, 000 to build a church. I remember my house which is quarter of the church had cost us 17 thousand rupees. that time most of the things were quite cheap. During my time much later meat used to cost 50 paise, sugar 50 paise and fish was not more than 15 rupees ie big fish and small cormot used to be 50 paise. macarels used to be one rupee ten or fifteen sometimes. we used to get bread for four annas five bread.So do not be surprise to hear that the church may cost seventy thousand rupees. This is my estimate and i do not have any documents to prove this.but if you search the old communidade documents somewhere it might be seen the cost of the church. these are very old documents.albert From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] What did it cost to build the Saligao Church? [Saligao Serenade] Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:10:29 +0400
Thanks. There's also a webpage (unreferenced) that deals with jaggery's strange uses, including as a cementing agent: http://www.organicfacts.net/nutrition-facts/others/strange-uses-of-jaggery.html Guess the other questions I had are more difficult and contentious .... Where did the request to build originate from? How did the saligao communidade come to inherit the bill? and why was it all done with such apparent haste? [email protected] From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] What did it cost to build the Saligao Church? [Saligao Serenade] Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:55:05 +0530 Dear Albert, Thank you very much for explaining how the paste was done with coconut jaggery for building purposes in olden times. God bless you and your family.fr. nascimento mascarenhas. ----- Original Message ----- From: Albert Desouza To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] What did it cost to build the Saligao Church? [Saligao Serenade] Dear saligaonkars In olden days people did not use cement or chunnam. They bu.ilt houses using clay which was mixed with coconut jaggery and small stones and pounded using heavy sticks. This pounding was done till the clay became a paste So the houses were made of this paste alone or used to join stones. But the construction was very strong and durable. Later they started using chunnam. This chunnam along with jaggery and small stones was put in a small well dug for the purpose and pounded to make a sticky paste. The pounding was done by women around five to six and for three to four days till the stickness was obtained. They would use this inplace of cement . Albert de souza From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] What did it cost to build the Saligao Church? [Saligao Serenade] Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:39:35 +0400 Thanks for posting Val. This is a fascinating historical article about the building of the church. A few questions for the group: 1. I'm intrigued by the jaggery. Was it used as a glue? Or was it a form of heat insulation? I understand Jaggery is sometimes used to line tandoors. 2. Quote: " The Inspector of Public Works Department, Major Engineer Martins was asked to draw up a plan for a Gothic Church, which he did." Who asked Martins? Was it the Governor (a top-down request) or a bottom-up (the people)? 3. Quote: "The Comunidade of Saligao is to pay all expenses of the building." Pardon my ignorance, but I doubt the communidade was a representative body in 1866 (not that it is now!). How did that order come to pass? Again, was it top-down or bottom-up? Are there any documented discussions that might have occurred in Communicade available? 4. The speed at which the project was sanctioned is breath-taking: 10th april Major Martins makes request, 20th June Governor agrees. That's really really quick. Similarly, the additional budget was passed in a matter of a few weeks. Was this just super-efficient administration or was there a need for speed? I suspect there was a political policy rapidly to promote the building of churches throughout portugese Goa, and that's why applications (and budgets) were passed at such a pace. Was such a policy in existence at that time? I realise its easy to ask questions and hard to find answers, but its possible someone in the group might know. [email protected] From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [SALIGAONET] What did it cost to build the Saligao Church? [Saligao Serenade] Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:47:57 +0530 [Posted by Val Souza] New essay on Saligao Serenade: ========================================= What Did it Cost to Build the Saligao Church? by Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas As people from all over the world, with roots in Goa’s northern village of Saligao, celebrate the 137th anniversary of the inauguration of the Mae de Deus Church, it’s interesting to look back and establish how much money was set aside for the construction of our beloved church all those years ago. We begin with the set-up of things prior to the laying of the foundation stone of the church. The year is 1866... [Click here to read the entire essay] http://www.saligaoserenade.com/2010/11/26/what-did-it-cost-to-build-the-saligao-church/ ========================================= Other essays featured this week: A Red-Letter Day for Saligao A great joy, a feeling of exaltation, a festive aura seemed to permeate and spur the village of Saligao. The day had an electrifying effect that charged everyone with nonpareil happiness. The village seemed to have woken up on the morning of November 26, 1873, as one unique and compact mass to celebrate the great day in its history, and to render the greatest possible homage to Our Lady Mae de Deus under whose mantle protection and maternal care all of the village would be placed from this day. [Click here to read the entire essay] http://www.saligaoserenade.com/2008/09/08/a-red-letter-day-for-saligao/ ========================================== First Mass in Saligao Church In the new Saligao Church, on 27 November 1873, there was a solemn High Mass with a choir and music in honour of the Patroness of the Church. After the Gospel reading, the well-known preacher and one of the greatest luminaries of the Goan clergy... [Click here to read the entire essay] http://www.saligaoserenade.com/2010/03/11/first-mass-in-saligao-church/ ========================================== The Man Behind the Saligao Church If one were called upon to single out a specific individual as the greatest benefactor of the village of Saligao, that individual would undoubtedly be Francisco Salvador Zeferino Pinto, fondly known as Salu Pinto. [Click here to read the entire essay] http://www.saligaoserenade.com/2008/08/06/the-man-behind-the-saligao-church/ ========================================== -- This message comes via the Google Groups "Saligao-Net" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net?hl=en Please post regularly to keep the e-village active! -- This message comes via the Google Groups "Saligao-Net" group. 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