Ashley wrote: > all the panch members revealed that all 9 had gone in a delegation to the school, > but were told in no uncertain terms that no villager of salgao would be allowed > admission.
Either the panch members are talking pure nonsense (almost 90% of the village children study in this school, I'd guestimate) or Ashley is indulging in a case of serious misreporting. Which is it? FN On 28 May 2014 13:27, dilip dacruz <[email protected]> wrote: > C'mon guys. We can't have inane remarks like there's nothing wrong because > "it's a good school, I went there x years ago" or "nothing could be wrong > because it's run by hardworking nuns". Get real! > Allegations have to be investigated properly and resolved. The > investigation cannot be left to the people who make the allegations; there > has to be some system in place to deal with such matters, and I'm sure > there is. I have no idea what actually transpired here but I do know that > IF local children were denied admission for corrupt reasons we have a > major problem. Many major scandals from tiny complaints grow. > > I also know that it is ethical to declare potential conflict of interest > when writing, FN. Your readers had no idea you were on the PTA. Indeed I > wrote initially only because I was so struck by the vehemence with which > you responded to the allegations when they were first voiced. Your reaction > would have been more understandable had you declared your conflict of > interest. > > Rumour now has it that you are also a fully paid-up member of the AAP > (some readers might not know that's a political party). Is that true? We > need to know. > > PS I have no conflict of interest to declare. > > Dilip > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:41:50 +0530 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Kudos and Accusations -no, Just a Thank You > > Dear Rico > > I find it mildly irritating that you continue to shoot the messenger. with > your statement marked in bold below. > > please be so kind as to look up the navhind times epaper online and browse > to the second page for monday 26th. you will see the *screaming headline*on > the same topic discussed at the gram sabha along with a picture of > surya. *Maybe you will trust another messenger from your own fold eh?* > > FYI since you seem to be so insulted at the idea of LCHS doing something > "wrong"; you should know that there were others there at the meeting who > echoed the same unbelief sentiment as myself. to name a couple who I know > to be on this mailing list - Alice D'cruz and Joaquim Vaz. Both along with > a few others including myself found the accusation far fetched, untill > others started voicing their experiences, and the panchayat members also > related to the gram sabha their experience. It was at that point, that > Joaquim vaz stepped in if I remember correctly to ask if this was within > the purview of the gram sabha to have this dicsussion. I also pointed out - > and this was recorded in the minutes, that at most what the gram sabha , > including the panchayat and the individuals could do, was write to the > education department about their griviences, or ask information under RTI. > > if you still wish to dispute these arguments - go ahead. I cannot stop > you. however (thinking aloud) I'm wondering if the reason you are doing so > you do realise that as an PTA member - you were indirectly implicated in > the accusation? > > > As I said earlier - please pick up the phone and speak to some people, or > walk down to the panchayat and ask to see the minutes of the meeting. read > the newspapers if you trust their report more than my words. if you > *still* continue to refuse to believe that there exists a problem of > admission, by not just 1 but several peoples word.... well what more can > anyone do? > > kind regards > Ashley > > > On Tuesday 27 May 2014 07:02 PM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या > * فريدريك نورونيا wrote: > > Cheryl, Your questions presume that everything is clear and cut-and-dry. > The fact is that there is a state of flux in education here, particularly > in recent years. I would think the reason for this is (1) English medium > education is once again available at the primary level, and Devanagari > Konkani is no longer compulsorily enforced as State policy (2) The Right to > Education has brought in changes on who is to be admitted, on what terms, > etc. Based on geographical distance from some schools, children have a > right to gain admission (3) Lourdes Convent has grown in stature in recent > years; even while some who can afford it opt for urban and elite schools, a > growing number of children from neighbouring villages (Pilerne as before, > Calangute, Candolim, etc) prefer LCHS (4) Local village schools like the > Government Middle School have all but collapsed, placing additional > pressure on LCHS, from what I understand. > > Maybe more apt questions to ask would be: > > * What aspect of school expenditure is covered by government grant, and > what is uncovered? > * Do the current grants and regulations pull down schools to a level of > mediocrity? > * If schools are to grow, improve and expand, what will it take for them > to do so? > * What role does the village have in ensuring that it helps builds > institutions of excellence? > * How many of us have studied through the school and how many have > complaints against it? > * What vision do we have for the future as far as our educational > infrastructure goes? > * Should political interference be encouraged in our educational > infrastructure? > * Have we understood the admission policy of this school and other > institutions? > * Is it fair to all concerned, or do we want piece-meal exceptions in > certain cases? > * If this issue was slated for discussions, shouldn't the school have > been asked for its say? > ** Is Ashley's report accurate, and if so, don't the claims made therein > sound bizarre?* > > FN > > On 27 May 2014 16:59, Cheryl D'Sa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Most who read such emails no doubt ask questions such as > > 1) is Lourdes convent fully funded by the government. If so does the > selection process will take into account the children in its catchment area. > > 2) is Lourdes convent partly funded by the government, if so what > percentage of seats are allocated for the general public and the selection > criteria for the seats. In this case Lourdes Convent is no different to any > other school that ensures it raises sufficient funds to run and develop the > school. > > Parents whose children do not get a place at the school of their choice > will feel hard done by and, sometimes know the real reason. Like most > parents who want the best for their child it is hard to accept. 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