Dear SaligaoNetters,
I am sorry to see this topic still being continued, with aspersions cast
etc. etc. Once we read Fr. Nasciment's message, felt his embarrassment &
that of Kevin, & Kevin's apology it would be in the interest of all,
especially Fr. Nasciment's, to close the topic.
However since I was one of those not so "gullible" "goan" "donor", I will
answer Alan from my personal point & general point of view, hopefully with
no hard feelings on either side...none on my side anyway. We are here for
too short a while to hold grudges & hard feelings .... Alan if you so wish,
you may reply directly to my email address so that Fr. Nasciment is not
involved anymore.
From: Alan Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Daniel F. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[email protected]>
Hello All Saligaokars,
I, for the longest time, have not said anything about Fr. Nasimento getting
donations to purchase a laptop though I have been reading about it.
I was an alter boy for father Nasimento when I was a kid and I could not in
my wildest imaginations think that father Nasimento would want such
luxuries.
Missed the point! Didnt consider it a luxury, just felt that it would be
easier keeping in touch with Fr. Nasciment because just visiting him once a
year, for me is not enough. At that particular point in time, didnt know
about the the misunderstanding & error of course. But then, each to his/her
opinions/views. For me it was not a donation like we give to charity etc....
it was a contribution towards an item that would help us all keep in touch
with Fr. Nasciment. I used to enjoy reading Fr. Nasciment's postings on
Saligaonet, he has been a fount of information. Also I find it difficult
getting to an internet cafe hence am pleased at the suggestion of having a
computer installed in the Saligao Institute with internet facilities (when
will that be? Any Idea, anyone?) Unfortunately, Fr. Nasciment wont be in a
position to get there either but I will ..that is if my legs are still
working by then..... I havent been very mobile last one month, old age
creeping up on me & me frail bones.....I'm not kidding. Even missed the
Goans Dinner/Dance (a first for me) on the Feast of St. Francis
Xavier.....boo hoo!
Kevin certainly knows that a laptop in Canada is not that expensive if he
really had good intentions about father Nasimeto's needs. A person of
Kevin's status being a vet doctor, a mere $500-$600 is not much for the
intention intended.
The reaction that came based on Kevin's plea for donations was typically
Goan type, whereby we >tend to believe anything and everything a person of
status says. Kevin, there are a lot of people
For me, donation means giving freely if one so wishes - there is no "goan
type", "indian type", "abroad type" "foreign type", "global type" & donors
dont look into the status of anyone - I've never considered Kevin as
"person of status" so I guess that lets me off/out....ha ha! Sorry Kevin,
if I've stripped you of "status" as I still see you as the guy walking down
that slope from your house to the bus stop, hands in pockets with bag on
back/shoulder & smiling away on reaching your friends, acquaintances &
Saliganvkars. I know a lot of people who are at the highest level &
definitely have status but to date I havent believed all they say. Any
donations made(including those made here abroad, in Saligao, Bombay, Sri
Lanka or wherever) are made for certain reasons known to me only. Anyway,
my belief is when one gives, one receives too - and this has been proved
again & again.
who read the numerous articles that are posted on Saligaonet and just
because people never >reply, it does not mean the readers agree with the
articles posted.
Exactly! If more Saliganvkars (Netters) not only read but posted their views
too, then we would have had more to chew on & perhaps we would have laid to
rest the whole topic based on those views. In this case we would have got
your valuable insight Alan, into the thoughts & feelings of Fr. Nasciment
since our thoughts & feelings were at entirely different tangents. Due to
the misunderstanding & error (call it what you wish) Fr. Nasciment was
embarrassed & I regret that but I know he will forgive all of us for this.
I will be meeting him next month when I'm in Goa (I've known him since my
school days & am a great fan of his) & will personally apologise though
Kevin has done his part already. I am confident that Fr. Nasciment will
understand that we didnt mean to affect his sensibilities.
And lastedly, all those who have already donated to the fund - wake up,
dont be gullible just >because you live abroad.
It would be best not to presume too much.
This clubbing together of "donation", "gullibility", "living abroad" doesnt
make sense.
I speak for myself when I say, - I'm wide awake, living abroad but not
gullible, & make donations & sometimes contributions irrespective of what
others say, or want, or do, & I have had reasons and still have reasons for
making donations/contirbutions - I dont need to justify that (isnt there a
saying - dont let your left hand know what your right is doing?), just as I
have reasons for making donations hereafter to Saligao Institute & other
institutions - so am I to be classed as gullible? Well Alan, do so if you
wish, it is your prerogative. I dont mind in the least!
I end here & wont be making any more postings on this Net with regard to
this "laptop" topic. Of course I can always correspond on a personal basis
since all know my email address by now.
It is nice & cool here since yesterday & hopefully it is just as cool in
India, & guess it is freezing in some parts of the world.
Have a good day!
Annette
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:52:24 +0000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [SALIGAONET] Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas -
laptop
Dears,I have been specially requested by Fr. Nasciment Mascarenhas
presently at the Clergy Home, to please post the below message addressed to
all the Saligaonetters on the Saligaonet mailing list through my e-mail
ID. Daniel F. de
Souza/Vasco.______________________________________________________________
<<Dear Saligaonetters, First and foremost I wish you all well! and a
big God Bless. What was a simple private talk has now been freely
discussed in an open forum on the Saligaonet. I regret it. This private
talk was done in my room at the Clergy Home in August 2007 between Mr.
Kevin Saldanha, his sister and yours faithfully. Mrs Dephnie and Kevin
Saldanha came to thank me for visiting their father Mr. Edwin Saldanha who
was interned in the Jesus Mary & Joseph (JMJ) hospital attached to our
clergy home. I was asked to assist Mr. Edwin Saldanha spiritually and so my
frequent visits to enquire about his health, administration of the last
sacraments and eventually attending his funeral at Saligao Church, I felt,
was the main cause to visit, thank and also enquire about my health.
Before leaving, Mr. Kevin asked me why I was not posting on Saligaonet my
writings as I used to do previously. My answer to him was : I do not
have a computer nor any cyber-café here. Incidentally, I was
transported in an emergency here at the advice of Dr. S.N. Desai, of Vasco,
and our ecclesiastical authorities. During those days in early
September-October 2006 my computer at Vasco church began giving lot of
trouble and Mr. Daniel F. de Souza from Vasco/Saligao on my request was
sending my emails through his computer. When I was sent to Clergy Home I
never imagined that I would be here for such a long time (almost one year
past) and the fact is that I still continue at the Clergy Home, am far
better in health and yet uncertain when I will return to Vasco. After
Mr. Kevin Saldanha returned to Canada, suddenly one fine morning in
September 2007 Mr. Cecil Pinto from Panjim, a friend of Mr. Kevin, visited
me here delivering me Good wishes card from Kevin. At the same time he
said Mr. Kevin Saldanha was keen to donate me a computer, and he (Mr. Cecil
Pinto) is asked to find out prices of a computer, laptop etc. In fact he
once again came and said Kevin is going in for a laptop. Now the third
person who knew about this donation of a lap-top by Kevin Saldanha was
Cecil Pinto. Then there was no talk for some time and one day I phoned to
Cecil Pinto and he was emphatic in telling me that he (Cecil) was not in
it, and I felt that was the end. On 27th Nov 2007, Mr. Frederick
Noronha was at Clergy Home to deliver me a book on Saligao written by Mr.
Mel DSouza, a Saligaokar based in Canada. He was in a big hurry to go as
he had an urgent meeting but expressed something about laptop, donation in
cash
etc. I was left clueless as to how Frederick came to know about our
private talk. On 4th December 2007, a friend of mine a Saligaokar from
Mumbai phoned to me late night asking me what was all this about a laptop,
Fr. Nascimento etc being discussed on the Saligaonet. I merely told him
that I was ignorant of the open discussion he mentioned to me. However, I
was a little inquisitive to know about the discussion taking place on the
Saligaonet. The following day I phoned to Daniel F. de Souza at Vasco and
he gave me the news and said he would pass on the hard copies of the
postings on the Saligonet wrt the laptop. I told him that I was coming to
Vasco on 8th Dec 2007, for a priests Ordination and then to his
residence to collect the same. He was kind enough to give me hard copies
of the relevant postings on the Saligaonet. I was too shocked to read all
that was being openly discussed in the cyberspace as regards donations to
purchase a laptop to Fr. Nascimento, and why my name was being dragged
unnecessarily into all this. In the first instance, I never asked for a
computer. Mr. Kevin Saldanha said he was donating one via Cecil Pinto. I
wished Mr. Kevin could send me a e-mail with Cecil Pinto and asked for my
opinion regarding funding of the laptop by asking for donations from
Saligaokars. Nothing like this happened. On the contrary there was an open
discussion, and campaign for funds, some Saligaonetters already began
sending cash donations etc. All this was uncalled for. If it was not
feasible for Mr. Kevin Saldanha to donate, he could let me know about it
and the matter would have been laid to rest there and then. But, it was
surprisingly not done. Now, I would humbly ask the Saligaonetters to
please desist from sending money to buy a laptop for me and next to
immediately return back the money donated to the respective donors. I hope
better sense will prevail. I am much better now and continue to pray
for you and your families.Fr. Nascimento J. Mascarenhas.Saligao /(Clergy
Home, Porvorim) >>
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