We settled on Jabber because it is a solid, stable, open-source solution
which lets us run our own server and control our own security destiny. We
evaluated all the similar commercial products (and several which are still
in testing) but found no inherent advantage in them and the licensing costs
were exhorbitant. Plus the fact that there are a huge number of jabber
clients available for a great number of client operating systems. It's been
a great decision for us.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Woznicki, Doug
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:05 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] MSN alert
>
>
> And then what about IBM Sametime and what about the new Live Communication
> Server 2003 (Microsoft SIP) or SIP in general
>
> Doug Woznicki
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] MSN alert
>
> We never evaluated Jabber, if there is a "market" for it, why not...
> Other people are using Jabber?
>
>
> dirk.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of arley dealey
> Sent: Sun Aug 24 10:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] MSN alert
>
>
> Neither AIM nor ICQ would be a solution for us since they are both America
> Online products and therefore not allowed on our boxes by policy.
>
> Dirk... what's the chance of Jabber?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Mark Bradshaw
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] MSN alert
> >
> >
> > Yahoo's too complicated a protocol.  AOL instant messenger might
> > be workable
> > though.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Behalf Of Jonathan Marsden
> > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:23 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] MSN alert
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like the first step in Microsoft's move to charge for the MSN
> > > messenger service...why else would they change it and not share
> > > code?...well, there is still ICQ.  Dirk, does yahoo have anything
> > > that might
> > > be roughly equivalent?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
> > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:42 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [SA-list] MSN alert
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Probably some of you already read/heard the news from
> > Microsoft.  From Oct
> > > 15th on, clients using older versions of the MSN protocol will no
> > > longer be
> > > able to be used.  Unfortunatly Servers Alive still uses the
> MSN protocol
> > > version 7 (like most 3rd party clients do).  We hope to have
> a technical
> > > solution by then, still the legal part of it is not clear.
> > > According to Sean
> > > Sundwall (a Microsoft spokesman):
> > > "It is our expectation that those who use our service with
> unlicensed or
> > > unauthorized third-party clients will likely not be able to
> log on after
> > > Oct. 15," Sundwall said. "We would encourage those third parties
> > > to contact
> > > us to work out agreements by which they can continue to have
> > > their customers
> > > access our network."
> > >
> > >
> > > Apparently MS wants us to make some kind of agreement with them
> > > over the use
> > > of the MSN network, however they are not giving any info on how
> > > to get this
> > > agreement.
> > >
> > >
> > > We will keep you posted on how this will continue....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > dirk.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Tested on: 8/22/2003 5:22:44 PM
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