We're working with MP3 streams not Vorbis, still think it's related?
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Romain Beauxis <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi Brandon,
>
> 2011/4/26 Brandon Casci <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Also, the several thousand lines turns out to me over many minutes, and
> it's
> > not hovering at 80k. The buffer slowly spirals down to 0, which takes 10
> to
> > 15 minutes, and then fills back up again. The process repeats. Neither
> log
> > files shows a network error when this happens.
>
> I think that I may have found another issue related only to the vorbis
> format..
>
> Could you send me the entire log file for your case?
>
> Romain
>
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Brandon Casci <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OK Romain, here is what's happening.....
> >>
> >> # the buffer likes to hover around 80k, and slowly starts to 0 over
> >> thousands of log lines, then rapidly jumps back up to 80k
> >> 13.901776 2916
> >> 13.902764 1692
> >> 13.903521 2232
> >> 13.904262 2772
> >> 13.905377 2700
> >> 13.906489 3240
> >> 13.907238 2016
> >> 13.908212 2556
> >> 13.908957 792
> >> 13.909852 1332
> >> 13.910592 3024
> >> 13.911324 1800
> >> 13.912123 2340
> >> 13.914270 0
> >> 13.914357 4608
> >> 13.915130 5760
> >> 13.916071 8064
> >> 13.916810 10368
> >> 13.917402 10368
> >> 13.917485 14976
> >> 13.918664 16128
> >> 13.919956 18432
> >> 13.920989 20736
> >> 13.922087 23040
> >> 13.922824 26496
> >> 13.923857 28800
> >> 13.925247 31104
> >> 13.925996 33408
> >> 13.926830 35712
> >> 13.927762 39168
> >> 13.928821 41472
> >> 13.929856 43776
> >> 13.930600 46080
> >> 13.931430 49536
> >> 13.932479 51840
> >> 13.933504 54144
> >> 13.934249 55296
> >> 13.934988 56448
> >> 13.935798 58752
> >> 13.936643 62208
> >> 13.937388 64512
> >> 13.938254 66816
> >> 13.939328 69120
> >> 13.940288 72576
> >> 13.941252 74880
> >> 13.942127 77184
> >> 13.942918 78336
> >> 13.943656 79488
> >> 13.944432 81792
> >> 13.945255 85248
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Brandon Casci <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> the version options says.....
> >>>
> >>> Liquidsoap 1.0.0-beta+svn (trunk/liquidsoap@rev8064).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Brandon Casci <[email protected]
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Nearly all of the ones with problems use MP3. Also a few of them seem
> to
> >>>> have the problem around song changes, so their encoder might not send
> data
> >>>> for a short time, which probably means the input harbor thinks
> >>>> disconnected...the buffer probably runs out before the audio track is
> sent.
> >>>> Just a guess though.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, I will go in there and start logging away :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Romain Beauxis <[email protected]
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/4/25 Brandon Casci <[email protected]>:
> >>>>> > Right now we have a trunk version in place. I'm not sure of the
> >>>>> > version. I
> >>>>> > will check, it's from withing the last 3 months though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok. Also, what input format are you clients using? ogg/vorbis? mp3?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > I was not aware of logging specific to the input harbor. Can please
> >>>>> > you
> >>>>> > point me to the docs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, just add:
> >>>>> logfile="/tmp/buffer.log"
> >>>>> to the arguments of input.harbor, and send me/us the file after you
> >>>>> have observed some disconnections..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > The logs currently don't show network activity, just switching
> >>>>> > between
> >>>>> > sources. Do we need to increase the log level, or would this data
> >>>>> > show up
> >>>>> > in the input harbor log?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes possibly. You could use
> >>>>> set("log.level",5)
> >>>>> to see more details..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Romain
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Romain Beauxis
> >>>>> > <[email protected]>
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Hi again,
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> 2011/4/25 Romain Beauxis <[email protected]>:
> >>>>> >> > Le 25 avril 2011 15:02, Brandon Casci <[email protected]>
> a
> >>>>> >> > écrit :
> >>>>> >> >> Hello
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> > Hi Brandon,
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> I have a considerable amount of broadcasters that have issues
> >>>>> >> >> with
> >>>>> >> >> streaming
> >>>>> >> >> to an input harbor. Their broadcast frequently switches between
> a
> >>>>> >> >> local
> >>>>> >> >> source and the input harbor. After a lot of research a few of
> >>>>> >> >> them do
> >>>>> >> >> have
> >>>>> >> >> crappy home networks, and bandwidth issues, which explains some
> >>>>> >> >> of the
> >>>>> >> >> problems. The others seem to have no bandwidth issues, but I am
> >>>>> >> >> wondering if
> >>>>> >> >> Liquidsoap is input harbor more sensitive to network latency
> than
> >>>>> >> >> Icecast
> >>>>> >> >> and Shoutcast. So maybe Liquidsoap has a smaller buffer, and is
> >>>>> >> >> prone
> >>>>> >> >> to
> >>>>> >> >> thinking the live broadcast has been disconnected much earlier
> >>>>> >> >> than
> >>>>> >> >> Shoutcast or Icecast might. Is that a reasonable theory? For
> now
> >>>>> >> >> I'm
> >>>>> >> >> going
> >>>>> >> >> to test it by having some live stream directly to an Icecast
> >>>>> >> >> server
> >>>>> >> >> and see
> >>>>> >> >> if their problems go away.
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> > What version of liquidsoap are you using?
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> The reason I am asking this is because I also suspect something in
> >>>>> >> the
> >>>>> >> recent versions of liquidsoap.
> >>>>> >> One thing you can do to monitor the issue is to use the logfile
> >>>>> >> parameter of input.harbor. This creates a file which contains the
> >>>>> >> length of the input buffer over time which can be plotted, in
> order
> >>>>> >> to
> >>>>> >> get an idea of what's going on..
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Also, you should check the logs for messages of the type:
> >>>>> >> "No network activity for 1 second(s)."
> >>>>> >> If those messages happen a lot and the graph of the input buffer
> >>>>> >> goes
> >>>>> >> to zero, then the problem is on the networking side..
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> > Romain
> >>>>> >> >
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