I'm ready to drop it because it's really not that big a deal, but I want to add that though I haven't used Chessbase for a couple years now, I don't remember this being a problem there. Chessbase thought about what users want, and got this part right.
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: > What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with > this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few > rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want > the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game > I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know > about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more > important. > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, > <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) >> 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Message-ID: >> <cagrtvoe3bd1c1mkh3kere7b3hezavgj6ne3gv-t87rs4dgi...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a >> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open >> with the most recent games on top? >> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >>> g...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>> From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com>, scidvspc-users >>> <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >>> w...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>> shown. >>> See the sort help topics. >>> >>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>> >>> S.A. >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Message-ID: <5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>> >>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> >> list to be date desc? >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> ********************************************* >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 >> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Message-ID: <5547eb96.3060...@netcabo.pt> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we >> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. >> >> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> >>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >>> open with the most recent games on top? >>> >>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> >>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@mail.gmail.com >>> <mailto:g...@mail.gmail.com>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>> From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com <mailto:stevena...@gmail.com>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>>, >>> scidvspc-users >>> <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@mail.gmail.com >>> <mailto:w...@mail.gmail.com>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>> shown. >>> See the sort help topics. >>> >>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>> >>> S.A. >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com >>> <mailto:cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt <mailto:gu...@netcabo.pt>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Message-ID: <5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt >>> <mailto:5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >>> then >>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>> >>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >>> sorted >>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >>> where I >>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >>> <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> >> list to be date desc? >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> ********************************************* >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scidvspc-users mailing list >> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 >> ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y _______________________________________________ Scidvspc-users mailing list Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users