On 6 April 2016 at 10:09, Lamar Owen <lo...@pari.edu> wrote:
> On 04/05/2016 06:34 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
>> Note that, unlike ELRepo folks with whom one can communicate via the SL
>> list (persons who even are willing to identify themselves, and not "hide"
>> behind some Bugzilla-like interface), EPEL seems much more unwilling to
>> discuss matters. Has an EPEL "maintainer" ever (recently) posted/replied to
>> the SL liist? I fully understand that the ELRepo folks are (presumably)
>> volunteers, and thus may have little real free time to address such issues;
>> hence, one should not pester them, particularly from typical enthusiast
>> "users". I suspect that EPEL persons in part may, as with CentOS, now be
>> paid by Red Hat, but I do not know this for a fact. ...
> EPEL is essentially Fedora on a project level; it's basically 'the Fedora
> packages that can be packaged for various RHEL-derived distributions
> packaged for those distributions.'  It's also typically (but not always) the
> Fedora package maintainer maintaining the EPEL package, and it is most
> useful to contact that person directly.  Bugzilla is the preferred means of
> contact, since it tracks the issues in a far more accessible (to the
> packager) way; no one is 'hiding' behind BZ, it's just the preferred way to
> get issues reported, tracked, and addressed.  Discussion of the base
> packages would likely be on the fedora-devel list, since EPEL is something
> of a Fedora thing.  Smooge, please feel free to correct my inaccuracies
> there, since you are connected directly to that and I am not.

What you state is mostly correct and probably how most people outside
of Fedora see how things working happen. The only difference would be
that discussion of the EPEL packages and group lists should be at
least cc'd on the epel-devel list as the people who can fix things are
on that list.

>> On this point, a question.  I have been told (but not verified as a fact)
>> that the Ubuntu equivalent to the main SL repository contains (all?)
>> packages that one must, for any EL family distro, find on the master (SL,
>> CentOS, etc.) repository and then hunt ELRepo, EPEL, and for some items, NUX
>> and others (in which case I only enable software sources such as NUX during
>> the actual installation of an RPM
>> package that only is available in source or on  such a repository).
> This is partially true.  The Ubuntu repos, thanks to the Debian parentage
> and repos, are vast and include a lot of packages. However, even in
> Ubuntu-land one must eventually use a personal repo, known as a 'PPA.'  PPAs
> are where things get hairy really quickly with Ubuntu since the quality of
> dependencies and the resolution of same varies wildly between different
> PPAs.  This is one of the basic differences between the Ubuntu and the
> RHEL-derived (and related, such as Fedora) ecosystems.  There are many more.

Correct. The Fedora/EPEL version of this are called COPR's which can
be added to make your system better enabled.

Stephen J Smoogen.

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