Here's something to reminence about given the subjec matter..if I remember correctly, on Babylon 5 there was the episode with the black guy who was a mutant that was hyper-evolving. He was on the run with white girl, and when he was trapped, I belive he changed one of the security guards to atomized molecules and then [he] the black guy evolved to the point where he bacame one with the univese...correct e
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And to repost yet again, I'm still wondering. On the season-ending show > where the Battlestar Pegasus is found, Admiral Caine travels to > Galactica. As her Raptor doors open, we see that she's accompanied by an > impressive group of officers and security. The first to disembark are > two snarling, armed guards, who scan the crowd with suspicion. I was > struck that both of these bookends were Black--and bald! Again, maybe > in modern times diversity for whites is no longer just about including > Blacks as well. After all, Edward Olmos is Mexican, I think the dude who > plays Mr. Gata is Latino, and Grace Park (who plays Sharon) is Asian. > And the lady who plays the communications officer is Black. So maybe > that seems diverse enough for Moore and company. There was one Black man > with some screentime, the guard who ultimately helped President Rosalyn > and Apollo escape, but Moore says he just wasn't a good enough fit to > make a permanent character. > > Maybe as a 40-ish Black man I'm holding on to old ideas, and finding > insult where there is none. But still, I'm honest enough to admit that > it bothers me that they can find Black men to play guards and prisoners > in the background, but none for some of the more glamorous roles. And i > don't like that all the non-white women are put with white dudes. Too > reminiscent of all the years when that was the norm on TV. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 15:24 > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black > people? > > > i posted about this during Season one of Galactica and did a count of > Blacks. I counted about three or four, incuding the comm officer and > some nameless pilots (I assume) used in the background. I then found a > lot of Blacks existed afterall: on the prison barge! When Apollo was > sent over there to quell the riots, the place was lousy with Big Black > Man, most of them dark-skinned as hell and bald... > > -------------- Original message -------------- > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Battlestar Galactica: (New Series) Well, there's a COMMUNICATIONS > > officer. . . . Apparently all of the other Black people, with the > > exception of the religious leader, were killed in the bombing of > > Caprica. Same with Buck Rogers - I don't recall ever seeing a dark > > face on there, with the exception of the singers with three mouths - > > > guess all the Black folks were killed off in the cataclysm while > > Buck was traveling through time. > > It seems that all the Black people live on Gemina (not Jemima, but > too damn close) and are zealatous worshipers of the Kobol lords. > Besides the communications officer, we've got the security guard who > slips the president her meds, a priestess, and the leader from Gemina > who was the first to bow before the Pres last episode. Wow, a race of > magical negroes. > > You know Ron means well, but come on. > > Perhaps we'll have some strong characters when the Pegasus shows up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think its that sci-fi in general doesn't have very many Black > > folks in it at all levels - writers, producers, directors, etc. I > > think that when none of the people who create something look like > > Wesley Snipes, chances are they will have issues, or at least some > > difficulty, seeing a Black face in that role - especially when that > > role has real power and possibilities for sexual attraction. In the > > new BSG, there's NO real reason why Adama couldn't have been Black, > > for example, unless the racial politics on Caprica also echo our > > civilization. In fact, the very concept of the series should lead > to > > more color-blind casting as the Roman Empire, which this > > civilization is based on (or which perhaps was influenced by *this* > > civilization?) didn't do ethnic-based slavery. > > > > A good example of what the lack of Black folks behind the scenes > > does is the movie Pleasantville. This was an entire movie about > > people who lived in a Black and White world. The movie makes the > > point that the people there weren't alive until COLOR was > > introduced - yet there were NO Black people in the movie and only a > > few people of color in the beginning high school sequence in "our" > > world. > > > > To me, being Black and all, it seems obvious that the most shocking > > and obvious thing in this movie would have been the introduction of > > a Black person, or a whole *bunch* of Black people. Imagine finding > > out about the concept of color and then finding out that not only > > things can be different colors but PEOPLE as well! But I > > digress. . . . > > > > One of the things the original show *did* do well, IMHO, was show > > diversity - not just in the casting (having Asian and Black major > > characters) but the extras as well. Unlike Friends and other TV > > shows which seem to exist in some mythically White world (no Black > > or Hispanics in friggin NEW YORK!?!), there were people of color > > there - yes they were in the background, but there were THERE. > > > > Anyway, I've always said we'd be much better off if, instead of > > begging Whitey for inclusion, we would form companies and produce > > our own media. If we really want to see Sci-Fi and other media > > outlets change their views, or lack therof, of Black folk, we need > > to get up off our collective duff and make them or, if lacking the > > knowledge and ability to make them, make it a point to support > those > > who are. If films like Sankofa and Rosewood got the support we give > > films like Scarface and Willie Wonka (I *think* I saw 1 Black > person > > in the film - not counting the Oompa Loompa guy), I don't think this > > would be an issue. Thoughts? > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "scifinoir2" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Life without art & music? 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