In terms of looks, Rhodes favors Denzel more than anyone else in H'Wood.
---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance Howard was Fired Date : Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:44:11 +0000 >From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Unless i'm mistaken Rhodes has been portrayed as dark skin many times over the years. In "Civil War', for example, he's waaaay darker than light-skinned, greenish eyed Howard. In terms of pure skin color, Cheadle's closer than Howard. But I still think they did Howard wrong. Might be business as usual, but he sure didn't see it coming... -------------- Original message -------------- From: "votomguy" While I don't question Cheadle's talent to pull it off, the simple fact is that Howard LOOKED like Rhodes. I'm a longtime Iron Man fan and an even bigger fan of War Machine (I'm probably one of the few who liked the alien armor). Howard is a solid actor. He's definitely light years above Ioan Gruffudd. If anyone needed to be replaced over talent issues, it's him. I have a sinking feeling Howards head got too big which is what brought all this on. Howard even acts like Rhodes. That said. Cheadle definitely has the stuff to pull of the mannerisms of Rhodes, but the real question is can he pull of the look. For me, Terrence Howard nailed it. Cheadle is a little dark to be Rhodey. Like I said. I'm a LONG time fan of Rhodes and I've yet to see a dark skinned Rhodey. He's always been medium to light skinned. Of course, Marvel did make Fury black so who knows it just might work. As long as the actual War Machine armor makes an appearance I think I can get over it. (Hell even if it doesn't I'll probably be able to get over it) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > Sadly, the role that proves Cheadle is better for this than Howard > -- is the role nobody likes him in. In "Mission To Mars" you have > Cheadle doing technobabble in a space suit in scenes with Gary Sinise > and Tim Robbins. If you watch that, then watch "Traitor", you'll > see that Cheadle's the guy. > > > > On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > But *how* do they know that Howard couldn't handle the role? They > > never gave him a chance. I love Cheadle's work, top to bottom, but > > he's a dramatic actor. I can't see him fitting into what is > > primarily an action movie. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ironman: Why They Say Terrance > > Howard was Fired > > > > Date : Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:47:45 EST > > > > From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > I don't know. But I think he can do it. Especially after seeing > > him in > > that movie were he plays a CIA counter-agent. Still after reading > > the article > > does this mean that Rhodes will have a bigger role in the film now > > that they > > fell they have an actor that can handle it. Or will we barely see > > him in IM2 > > no matter who plays him because of this. > > > > > > -GTW > > > > > > In a message dated 11/4/08 3:11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >> I like Cheadle but I can't see him in the role of James Rhodes... > >> > >> Said > >> > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> 'Iron Man 2': How Terrence Howard Lost His Metal > >>> > >>> Marvel's decision to recast the role of Col. Jim Rhodes said to be a > >>> combination of salary issues and concern about the performance > >>> > >>> By > >>> > >> > >>> ;> Nicole Sperling > >>> > >>> Nicole Sperling > >>> > >>> Nicole Sperling > >>> > >>> When a summer blockbuster grosses more than $300 million, putting > >> together a > >>> sequel is typically as simple as throwing buckets of money at your > >> stars and > >>> signing a few pieces of paper. That hasn't been the case with > >>> Iron Man 2. It took > >>> months for Marvel > >> Studios > >>> to lock in director Jon Favreau > >>> for the sequel. And > >>> reports that Don > >>> > >> > >>> l> Cheadle will replace Terrence Howard as Col. Jim Rhodes - a > >> supporting > >>> character who seemed poised for a big role in the follow-up after he > >>> muttered ''Next time, baby'' to Iron Man's steel suit - hint that > >> IM2 isn't > >>> quite as infallible as the superhero at its center. > >>> > >>> Hollywood insiders believe the exit stems from Terrence Howard > >>> 's difficult > >> behavior on > >>> the set of Iron Man. But those with intimate knowledge of the > >>> situation > >>> suggest a far more dramatic backstory: Howard was the first actor > >> signed to > >>> the film and, on top of that, was the highest-paid. That's right: > >> more than > >>> Gwyneth Paltrow > >> . More > >>> than Jeff > >> Bridges. More > >>> than Robert Downey Jr. > >> > >>> And once the project fully came together, it was too late to > >> renegotiate his > >>> deal. It didn't help that, according to one source, Favreau and his > >>> producers were ultimately unhappy with Howard's performance, and > >> spent a lot > >>> of time cutting and reshooting his scenes. (Favreau could not be > >> reached for > >>> comment, while Howard's publicist says: ''Terrence had a tremendous > >>> experience working on Iron Man.'') > >>> > >>> As such, when Favreau and screenwriter Justin Theroux > >>> went to map out > >> the sequel > >>> they found themselves minimizing Howard's story line. Once Marvel > >> learned > >>> that Favreau was thinking of curtailing the role, the studio went > >>> to the > >>> actor's agents with a new and drastically reduced offer - a number > >> that's > >>> similar to what supporting cast members were paid for the first > >> movie. The > >>> agents, according to sources, were so taken aback by this new > >>> figure - > >>> estimated at somewhere between a 50 and 80 percent pay cut - that > >>> they > >>> questioned it. Why did they blanch? Multiple sources say that Marvel > >> execs > >>> never told Howard's reps that they had issues with the star's on-set > >>> conduct. (Marvel would not comment for this story.) > >>> > >>> It's unclear whether Howard's team walked away first, or if Marvel > >> ended the > >>> discussion at that point. Either way, the studio moved quickly to > >>> secure > >>> Cheadle and the story leaked out the next morning, Oct. 14. And > >>> alas for > >>> Howard, there will be no next time. > >>> > >>> More from the EW archive: > >>> Iron > >> Man 2: > >>> Don Cheadle's in > >>> > >>> Terrence > >>> Howard Breaks Silence on Iron Man > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ************** > > Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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