On 9 August 2016 at 19:54, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Nelle Varoquaux <nelle.varoqu...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On 9 August 2016 at 19:17, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Nelle Varoquaux >> > <nelle.varoqu...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9 August 2016 at 17:28, Juan Nunez-Iglesias <jni.s...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > @Emmanuelle I'm probably among the ones pushing hardest for this, and >> >> > I >> >> > can >> >> > tell you, I can't wait for this change in policy, and would be sorely >> >> > disappointed by having to work in an experimental branch of >> >> > scikit-image. >> >> > Both @-matmul and keyword-only arguments are, imho, compelling >> >> > reasons >> >> > to >> >> > switch. (Imagine the amount of fiddling with the API that we could do >> >> > with >> >> > keyword-only arguments, without the annoying deprecation cycle!) >> >> > >> >> > @Ralf I would argue in favour of 3.5, for the above reasons and >> >> > because >> >> > anyone who had the temerity to update to 3.4 is very likely to >> >> > subsequently >> >> > move to 3.5. (Self-selected group of early adopters, plus no >> >> > backwards >> >> > incompatibility issues between the two versions.) >> > >> > >> > I agree with this argument, I was just asking to clarify. @ is at least >> > something interesting that's specifically added for scientific users, so >> > imho 3.5 is the first 3.x release where in some cases the benefits may >> > start >> > to be worth the costs. >> > >> >> >> >> That implies that even ubuntu users will have to install python from >> >> another source than the package manager. Do you really want this? That >> >> means that only fairly advance python users will be able to use the >> >> latest scikit-image release. >> > >> > >> > In the grand scheme of things, does Ubuntu matter much for this >> > decision? >> > There are way more Windows and OS X users, so if it's OK for them (which >> > is >> > not a given) then it should also be OK for those fewer and on average >> > more >> > computer-literate Ubuntu users. >> >> I don't have a good overview of what OS people are using, but in the >> different research facilities I've worked or visited, it was always >> linux based, and users where not really tech-savy. I checked on all of >> the servers (UW's genome science, the Curie institute, UC Berkeley's >> stats department, the Mines' machine learning computing facilities.) I >> have access to, none have python3.5. Some of these servers are >> "offline", thus conda is useless. All of these research institutes >> have teams that use in some way image processing. >> >> I'll just also mentionned that we had a keynote at scipy this year >> mentionning she was using python because she just did not have the >> time anymore to code in C++ and Java. These are the kind of people >> that may be using scikit-image, that may be interested in the latest >> version of the package, and yet just not have the time to compile >> python3.5 from scratch on an outdated server. > > > Fair enough, but there are likely much more outdated servers with Python 2.7 > than with Python 3.4 on them .....
Well… I think it is better to keep python2.7 support :) All the clusters I have access to but 1 has python3. The oldest one is a red hat based cluster with python2.6 (which was python2.3 not so long ago). N > > Ralf > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "scikit-image" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to scikit-image+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to scikit-image@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/scikit-image/CABL7CQjye5g5jppRk1hej2g2P3VCKa0mrcHe4Z9u37nSrqBpsg%40mail.gmail.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "scikit-image" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to scikit-image+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to scikit-image@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/scikit-image/CAE-UAvT0C5z0jg84oDW0MtTiFkoWJgpdNrMCfGx82ZnwDzLeZg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
