Hi Joe,

Thanks for your feedback. https://discuss.scientific-python.org is a
community owned site, which is currently maintained by Stéfan van der
Walt and me. It is running discourse, which is released under GPL:
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/LICENSE.txt

Python uses discourse as well:https://discuss.python.org/

Best regards,
Jarrod

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 10:23 AM Joe Harrington <j...@physics.ucf.edu> wrote:
>
> My main/only concern is switching costs / lock-in to proprietary services for 
> open-source projects.  If the service you are looking at "owns" the content 
> in some sense, such that you have to be a member, pay, potentially pay in the 
> future, or depend on their continued existence for access to content, then 
> I'd raise an objection as someone who was once heavily involved and who 
> continues to monitor development.
>
> If there's something like a mailing list archive in a format that can be 
> monitored in real time and that would survive the termination of the 
> company/organization hosting it, then it's fine.  Something like Slack or 
> Teams is a non-starter because the content can't be mass-downloaded and 
> hosted outside the service, so the service could suddenly impose fees or 
> terminate business if bought by a competitor, and we'd lose everything.  
> There are frequent references in the discussions to past discussions and 
> decisions.  I would not want us to generate a bunch of history and then loose 
> access to it.
>
> I'm not familiar with Discuss, and perhaps not everyone is.  Could you 
> elaborate a bit about these concerns?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --jh--
> Joe Harrington
> Office of Research, Department of Physics, and Florida Space Institute
> University of Central Florida
> Founder of the NumPy/SciPy Documentation Project
>
> On 4/3/24 10:04, Melissa Mendonça wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> We are proposing to move the development discussions from 
> scipy-dev@python.org to 
> https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/scipy
>
> The proposal is as follows:
> - We start using Discourse as a replacement to scipy-dev@python.org
> - We don't move the mailing list archive and history. That will all be frozen 
> at the current location 
> (https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/scipy-dev.python.org/). While it is 
> possible to migrate the history to Discourse, this makes the transition A LOT 
> more complicated including potentially exposing private email addresses which 
> is something we probably don't want to do.
> - Posters will have the ability to post on the website forum or through 
> email. I am personally still getting used to the Discourse interface, but it 
> seems it is possible to interact with the forum through email only if that is 
> preferred, so hopefully those who would like to keep the email workflow would 
> not have to adapt too much. This message was posted through email, for 
> example: https://discuss.scientific-python.org/t/this-is-a-test-message/1117
>
> Note that there are two forums for SciPy in the Scientific Python discourse:
> - https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/scipy (for developer 
> discussions)
> - https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/user/scipy (for user discussions)
>
> There is no expectation that maintainers would monitor the user forum.
>
> I hope this is clear - let me know if you need more information. The forum is 
> already open so anyone can post there. Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Thank you Stéfan van der Walt for the help setting this up and Pamphile Roy 
> for the previous work on setting up the forum!
>
> - Melissa
>
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