Great!  Sounds good to me, then.  Thanks for taking the time to explain.

--jh--


On 4/3/24 13:33, Jarrod Millman wrote:
Hi Joe,

Thanks for your feedback. https://discuss.scientific-python.org is a
community owned site, which is currently maintained by Stéfan van der
Walt and me. It is running discourse, which is released under GPL:
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/LICENSE.txt

Python uses discourse as well:https://discuss.python.org/

Best regards,
Jarrod

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 10:23 AM Joe Harrington <j...@physics.ucf.edu> wrote:
My main/only concern is switching costs / lock-in to proprietary services for open-source 
projects.  If the service you are looking at "owns" the content in some sense, 
such that you have to be a member, pay, potentially pay in the future, or depend on their 
continued existence for access to content, then I'd raise an objection as someone who was 
once heavily involved and who continues to monitor development.

If there's something like a mailing list archive in a format that can be 
monitored in real time and that would survive the termination of the 
company/organization hosting it, then it's fine.  Something like Slack or Teams 
is a non-starter because the content can't be mass-downloaded and hosted 
outside the service, so the service could suddenly impose fees or terminate 
business if bought by a competitor, and we'd lose everything.  There are 
frequent references in the discussions to past discussions and decisions.  I 
would not want us to generate a bunch of history and then loose access to it.

I'm not familiar with Discuss, and perhaps not everyone is.  Could you 
elaborate a bit about these concerns?

Thanks,

--jh--
Joe Harrington
Office of Research, Department of Physics, and Florida Space Institute
University of Central Florida
Founder of the NumPy/SciPy Documentation Project

On 4/3/24 10:04, Melissa Mendonça wrote:

Hi all!

We are proposing to move the development discussions from scipy-dev@python.org 
to https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/scipy

The proposal is as follows:
- We start using Discourse as a replacement to scipy-dev@python.org
- We don't move the mailing list archive and history. That will all be frozen 
at the current location 
(https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/scipy-dev.python.org/). While it is 
possible to migrate the history to Discourse, this makes the transition A LOT 
more complicated including potentially exposing private email addresses which 
is something we probably don't want to do.
- Posters will have the ability to post on the website forum or through email. 
I am personally still getting used to the Discourse interface, but it seems it 
is possible to interact with the forum through email only if that is preferred, 
so hopefully those who would like to keep the email workflow would not have to 
adapt too much. This message was posted through email, for example: 
https://discuss.scientific-python.org/t/this-is-a-test-message/1117

Note that there are two forums for SciPy in the Scientific Python discourse:
- https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/scipy (for developer 
discussions)
- https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/user/scipy (for user discussions)

There is no expectation that maintainers would monitor the user forum.

I hope this is clear - let me know if you need more information. The forum is 
already open so anyone can post there. Let me know your thoughts.

Thank you Stéfan van der Walt for the help setting this up and Pamphile Roy for 
the previous work on setting up the forum!

- Melissa

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