http://help.cableone.net/email/port25/letter.htm

there it is people.  Im not happy about it but what ever.   This just
makes it harder for techies to learn differnet technologies.  Are they
going to start blocking port 80, 443, 21, 23, 22 etc.  Eventually the
bastards will have everything blocked, the internet experience will not
be worth it.  

But hey there are ways around everything.



Cheers

Jeromey



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Schieuer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sclug-general] cableone now blocking port 25


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Ok, I wasn't going to get into this thread, but against my better
judgement I 
will.  First off, them blocking ports or shaping traffic or whatever
THEY 
want to do...  It's their network and like most corporate networks, the 
admins DO what they WANT to do, or need to do to make service as good as

possible.  If you have a problem with it you need to find yourself a 
different provider or level of service.  Cableone does have a Business
Plan, 
which I'm sure let's you place a "server" on the wire.  You just have to
buck 
up and pay the $100.00 a month.  People who run a business on a
resdential 
service are getting what they pay for.  As far as defining a server....
If 
it runs a service that people connect to.  It's a server...  I.E. it
serves, 
be it mail, web pages, gaming realms, or whatever.  Also they are
blocking 
mail servers....  When you talk about them blocking news or IRC, those
are 
mostly SERVICES, I don't know to many people who run news or irc SERVERS
out 
of their houses.  

You can be as hostile as you want towards them, but like I said it's
THEIR 
network.  If they start losing customers they may retract their
statement ( I 
highly doubt that this will occur).  Also you have to think of this
outside 
the realm of Sioux City.  Cableone has internet access in at least 10
other 
states.  If you think about the amount of traffic that could be
generated and 
what it costs them in upstream bandwidth.  For them it's more than
likely a 
big money saver for them to do this.  Figuring they more than likely
spend 9 
to 10 grand a month for a full DS-3 to AT&T.  


Mike


On Tue September 9 2003 10:42 am, 02fun-u2 wrote:
> for those of you who follow the Omaha Linux groups list this has been 
>a  problem that they have faced with cox. the business accounts seem to

>be ok.  what are the solutions if you want to run your own MTA? change 
>you mx  records? are they just blocking 25 out or in or both. USA 
>PATRIOT Act  maybe?  http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html
>
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_
usa
>_patriot_analysis.php Carnivore maybe?
> http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/foia_documents.html
>  The surveillance system captured not only the electronic
communications of
> the court-authorized target, "but also picked up E-Mails on
non-covered"
> individuals, a violation of federal wiretap law.
> http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/5_02_release.html
>
> yes i know its agenst the terms of service. but what is a server! i 
> could install a system with win 95 and load some software and bam! i 
> have a server. (ya it's a junk server but still!) when will they start

> blocking other ports? maybe irc ports, news group ports, etc. it just 
> is a bad idea. if they have open relay problems than punish those 
> people.
>
> if they aren't running anti virus on there server and some spam 
> killing software than they are just trying to do somthing else.
>
>
>
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