First of all isnt most of your non business accounts dailup with some dsl? Cableone offers me almost t1 speeds, then limit what I can do. If they were to drop me to 512 or even 256 and let me do what ever, I would be happy.
I bet kazza traffic would produce higher traffic than some smtp traffic. Why don't they block kazza? There are better things these isps can do than block traffic The internet should not be limited. If companies are worried about bandwidth, then don't give me as much. Its their own fault. I don't care if it "their network" I care that I pay for service and I should not be limited. As soon as this damn stupid city gets around to having dslams in my area, I will leave cableone in a heartbeat. If the wireless companies could hit my house, I would leave cableone in a heartbeat Cheers Jeromey -----Original Message----- From: Mike Schieuer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sclug-general] cableone now blocking port 25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm not changing my stance, I see where everyone is coming from. I know however that mail servers can create alot of unwanted traffic on a network. Especially a large WAN like cableones. I think most of us on the list would agree that technology is a very dangerous thing in the hands of 85% of the world. People just get a piece of technology and turn it on. If it works, then hey great. Example 99.5% of the wireless access points in Sioux City. Someone goes to Staples and buys a wireless router, takes it home and turns it on. They fire up a laptop or computer and it works right out of the box. You know every Linksys and Belkin manual in town is sealed up nicely in its packaging because NOBODY reads the manual. It's the same thing with people who don't configure their MS Exchange boxes. Working at an ISP, I can tell you that daily we deal with at least 25 to 30 messages about spam coming from an IP range in our network. This in turn eats up anywhere from 2-5 hours of admin time. By the time you research who it is and find out what is on their network, try and relay a message through them, contact them, explain what is going on to them, then responding to the report. And we are only in a handful of small communities. Using the tools available now, I'm sure cableone has graphed their traffic by port flows and see that activity on incoming port 25 is way higher than it should be for a mostly "residential" cable plant. As an ISP we've never thought about turning off certain ports but instead limiting the flow of that traffic with shapers. We have customers that we sell bandwidth to that actively filter out file sharing. Why, because it's their network and they can't afford to get more bandwidth. So what do they do??? They sample the traffic and limit what ever puts the most strain on their pipe. Also to say cableone isn't concerned with upload bandwidth? If they weren't concerned do you think you'd be limited to 256K uploads? Mike On Wed September 10 2003 2:00 am, Hip Kat wrote: > like anyone on the cableone network was running this huge mail server > off it anyways, i highly doubt they are doing this because of upload > bandwidth costs. and it seems form that letter that they are > specifically focusing on port 25, which is probably because of some > outgoing spam floods, if it be wireless or whatever .. cableones last > worrie is me running a 'game' server on my network because they simply > know that they're hands are all tied up. > > > sam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Xye6mUFtrUUciv4RAvNuAJ9f9ms12aYEWzKQ4Lr68I+eA+hmBgCfd/Wk bhvF71e8vNbsiiqL77QIeoY= =gaNM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
