-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, we only peak at like 36 Mbits/s a day. You know, only like 75% of a full clear channel DS-3. We've only got about 4,000 residential highspeed users in our 90 communities between the cable, dsl and wireless that we do. Not to mention the other 7,000 dialup customers. So we really don't do that much traffic. I'm sure it's much easier to manage a network with 43 Class C subnets than a corportate lan with 30-50 users.
Instead of dropping your speed why don't you up your plan... I'm looking at the link you sent to no-ip.com. And I would think that if you HAVE to have a mail server on your home network you'd be sending out at least two emails a day... So lets be real here... Your gonna spend $59.95 at least a year for that service (and more than likely double if not triple that if your running a "real" mail server) plus the $59.99 a month you pay for access. So up your package to the $99.99 plan or find a different provider. Everyone always bitches about the cable company, it's like bitching about the phone company. The old "Bells" had you by the nuts and they knew it. Cableone is the same way. They raise the price and don't add channels and people bitch. They take channels away and people bitch. But you know what, most of those people don't move to Dish. They just bitch. Unlimited internet access is alot of wishful thinking, and if you want to hear people bitch lower their bandwidth, the phone will ring off the hook. I know you think it's your network because you pay your bills. But if you want to lay fault somewhere take a look at the sign-up sheet with your name on it. The read their AUP, better yet here it is.... "You may not run a server in connection with the CableOne.Net residential service, nor may you provide network services to others via the CableOne.Net residential service. The CableOne.Net residential service includes personal Web Space accounts for publishing personal Web pages. Examples of prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, running servers for mail (pop3 & smtp), http, https, ftp, irc, dhcp and multi-user interactive forums. For information about commercial Internet pricing, please see http://www.cableone.net/cablemodem " http://www.cableone.net/internet/cmaup.asp So it's not their fault...... Buyer beware.... Mike On Wed September 10 2003 11:27 am, Jeromey Hannel wrote: > First of all isnt most of your non business accounts dailup with some > dsl? Cableone offers me almost t1 speeds, then limit what I can do. If > they were to drop me to 512 or even 256 and let me do what ever, I would > be happy. > > I bet kazza traffic would produce higher traffic than some smtp traffic. > Why don't they block kazza? > > There are better things these isps can do than block traffic > > The internet should not be limited. If companies are worried about > bandwidth, then don't give me as much. > > Its their own fault. I don't care if it "their network" I care that I > pay for service and I should not be limited. As soon as this damn > stupid city gets around to having dslams in my area, I will leave > cableone in a heartbeat. If the wireless companies could hit my house, > I would leave cableone in a heartbeat > > > Cheers > > Jeromey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Schieuer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sclug-general] cableone now blocking port 25 > > > I'm not changing my stance, I see where everyone is coming from. I know > > however that mail servers can create alot of unwanted traffic on a > network. > Especially a large WAN like cableones. I think most of us on the list > would > agree that technology is a very dangerous thing in the hands of 85% of > the > world. People just get a piece of technology and turn it on. If it > works, > then hey great. Example 99.5% of the wireless access points in Sioux > City. > Someone goes to Staples and buys a wireless router, takes it home and > turns > it on. They fire up a laptop or computer and it works right out of the > box. > You know every Linksys and Belkin manual in town is sealed up nicely in > its > packaging because NOBODY reads the manual. It's the same thing with > people > who don't configure their MS Exchange boxes. Working at an ISP, I can > tell > you that daily we deal with at least 25 to 30 messages about spam > coming > from an IP range in our network. This in turn eats up anywhere from 2-5 > > hours of admin time. By the time you research who it is and find out > what is > on their network, try and relay a message through them, contact them, > explain > what is going on to them, then responding to the report. And we are > only in > a handful of small communities. Using the tools available now, I'm sure > > cableone has graphed their traffic by port flows and see that activity > on > incoming port 25 is way higher than it should be for a mostly > "residential" > cable plant. As an ISP we've never thought about turning off certain > ports > but instead limiting the flow of that traffic with shapers. We have > customers that we sell bandwidth to that actively filter out file > sharing. > Why, because it's their network and they can't afford to get more > bandwidth. > So what do they do??? They sample the traffic and limit what ever puts > the > most strain on their pipe. Also to say cableone isn't concerned with > upload > bandwidth? If they weren't concerned do you think you'd be limited to > 256K > uploads? > > > Mike > > On Wed September 10 2003 2:00 am, Hip Kat wrote: > > like anyone on the cableone network was running this huge mail server > > off it anyways, i highly doubt they are doing this because of upload > > bandwidth costs. and it seems form that letter that they are > > specifically focusing on port 25, which is probably because of some > > outgoing spam floods, if it be wireless or whatever .. cableones last > > > > worrie is me running a 'game' server on my network because they simply > > > > know that they're hands are all tied up. > > > > > > sam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/X2vXmUFtrUUciv4RAsa6AKCTYn254cilXBfrzNIrmrWVZStvCQCeOT4V NP/rpYq4LchdWbb8ESkMSfs= =ilsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
