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You can get as technical as you want to, but when your firewall recieves data 
on TCP port 25, who ever is sending you mail has used their network all the 
way to your network.  When you recieve mail it comes in on 25, when your MTA 
sends out it's not running on outbound 25, it runs above port 1024 and is 
destined to an IP connecting on port 25.  It the whole source and destination 
port thing, like with ftp.  And they are stopping DATA traffic on port 25.  
Also the internet is NOT about free speech and liberty.  It's about business.  
The government now days has so little to do with data getting from me to you.  
It's telco's and data providers that you are dealing with.  Your points are 
somewhat valid, but require major hardware.  Take your corporate mail server 
and have sendmail or whatever MTA drop all mail that has a .pif attachment.  
And watch a PIII 1 Ghz box with 20-30 users kill itself with a simple virus 
replication to your network.  Also they do have content filtering for an 
addition charge.  And I have plenty of uses for an ssh connection that have 
nothig to do with running a full lown server.  I ssh into my box all the time 
to do traceroutes and pings to triangulate internet related problems.  And 
that's the only open port on my box.  


Mike





On Wed September 10 2003 2:30 pm, 02fun-u2 wrote:
> k I'm on cable one but not running a mail server but lets get technical for
> a sec, my firewall is the only cpe that is on there network. that firewall
> hooks up to MY 24 ports of 10/100 fun. So  say i setup a nice qmail or
> postfix daemon on my home lan. now lets face it I'm NOT running a server on
> there network, it's on mine. if i port forward my port 25 the data is the
> only thing going from there network to mine. the Internet is about freedom
> of transition (free as speech and liberty) of thoughts and ideas within the
> bounds of law. those transitions take the form of data. by stooping the
> transition of an IEEE standard they are really just censoring there
> customer and going agents the general Internet governing body.
>
> so lets really get down to the "stuff"
> 1. if cable one is so concerned over spam and other bad things why don't
> they implement something like spam assign on there mail connection.
>
> 2. why aren't the scanning all the email going through there gateway for
> virus. 3.why don't they have some sort of proxy that if you want to use,
> scans web content for virus, bad cgi, etc.
>
> just a thought
> are you running a firewall that can be administered from off site?  With
> http or ssh. Well just to let you know you are running a server, you must
> now disconnect from cable one.
>
>  Also
> the people that want to get around port 25 blocking will.
> why not block incoming port 22? no one has a use for ssh unless they are
> running a server right? Or maybe there some hacker who owns some one else's
> box and using it for DDos
>
> ps
> Jeromey how is lisa's box doing :)
> inside joke!
>
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