It's like a flame war on the list.
Mike and Brion are right.
Run it while you can and when the fun stops upgrade services or
move isp's if you want. All I know is that if I had a giant pipe I
would
lock that bich down tighter than the sigularity of a black hole.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You can get as technical as you want to, but when your firewall
> recieves data
> on TCP port 25, who ever is sending you mail has used their network
> all the
> way to your network. When you recieve mail it comes in on 25, when
> your MTA
> sends out it's not running on outbound 25, it runs above port 1024
> and is
> destined to an IP connecting on port 25. It the whole source and
> destination
> port thing, like with ftp. And they are stopping DATA traffic on
> port 25.
> Also the internet is NOT about free speech and liberty. It's about
> business.
> The government now days has so little to do with data getting from me
> to you.
> It's telco's and data providers that you are dealing with. Your
> points are
> somewhat valid, but require major hardware. Take your corporate mail
> server
> and have sendmail or whatever MTA drop all mail that has a .pif
> attachment.
> And watch a PIII 1 Ghz box with 20-30 users kill itself with a simple
> virus
> replication to your network. Also they do have content filtering for
> an
> addition charge. And I have plenty of uses for an ssh connection
> that have
> nothig to do with running a full lown server. I ssh into my box all
> the time
> to do traceroutes and pings to triangulate internet related problems.
> And
> that's the only open port on my box.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed September 10 2003 2:30 pm, 02fun-u2 wrote:
> > k I'm on cable one but not running a mail server but lets get
> technical for
> > a sec, my firewall is the only cpe that is on there network. that
> firewall
> > hooks up to MY 24 ports of 10/100 fun. So say i setup a nice qmail
> or
> > postfix daemon on my home lan. now lets face it I'm NOT running a
> server on
> > there network, it's on mine. if i port forward my port 25 the data
> is the
> > only thing going from there network to mine. the Internet is about
> freedom
> > of transition (free as speech and liberty) of thoughts and ideas
> within the
> > bounds of law. those transitions take the form of data. by stooping
> the
> > transition of an IEEE standard they are really just censoring there
> > customer and going agents the general Internet governing body.
> >
> > so lets really get down to the "stuff"
> > 1. if cable one is so concerned over spam and other bad things why
> don't
> > they implement something like spam assign on there mail connection.
> >
> > 2. why aren't the scanning all the email going through there
> gateway for
> > virus. 3.why don't they have some sort of proxy that if you want to
> use,
> > scans web content for virus, bad cgi, etc.
> >
> > just a thought
> > are you running a firewall that can be administered from off site?
> With
> > http or ssh. Well just to let you know you are running a server,
> you must
> > now disconnect from cable one.
> >
> > Also
> > the people that want to get around port 25 blocking will.
> > why not block incoming port 22? no one has a use for ssh unless
> they are
> > running a server right? Or maybe there some hacker who owns some
> one else's
> > box and using it for DDos
> >
> > ps
> > Jeromey how is lisa's box doing :)
> > inside joke!
> >
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Sorry about the joke I'm a nerd!
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Ted Katseres
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