its a medium sized business. undetermined don't know for sure yet Evolution connecting to a Lotus email server, connectivity to AS/400, web browsing, OpenOffice.org ranging from 486/w95 to current PC's running XP Why not unfortunately yes I can, setup a cron job mediocre
as far as TCO, that is a split decision. I honestly couldn't tell you. My understanding was one of the higher Linux costs are cause by admin costs... but I will do them myself (actually the companies IS guy will) these are going to be basic workstations. they do not need to do many things other than stated. thanks Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [sclug-generallist] BSD > How large is your organization? > How large of a budget do you have? > Is this going to be an enterprise install? > What kind of applications do you run on the workstations? > How up to date are your workstations? > Why Linux? > Are you currently running windows at your facility? > Are you able to patch your own system via the command line or other > means other than using a redhat updater? I don't know how that works > since I'm an only a FreeBSD user. > What is your skill level in Linux? > > I also desire to make the switch to something other than M$ here at work > but my research has really got me rethinking what I might get myself > into. > It may end up costing you more than just suffering with M$. I have yet > to see someone show me the cost benefits for a for profit commercial > business. > > Please, prove me wrong. > > Aaron > > sorry I didn't answer your question very well, but these things might > have to be answered before we can give you a good answer. > > On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 14:31, Daniel Kuecker wrote: > > that brings me back to one of my original questions. Which linux distro is > > the best for business? both sever and workstation? > > > > the way some people are talking about BSD, maybe we should fork another > > group call Sioux City BSD Users Group? lol. > > > > i am curious about BSD. i wouldnt mind discussing it more at some futer > > meeting.... > > daniel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:56 AM > > Subject: RE: [sclug-generallist] BSD > > > > > > > What is your preference for Linux? Due to Redhat's licensing changes we > > are > > > currently seeking a Linux OS that is supported and continuing to monitor > > > it's security. Redhat seems to be winning the race with the downfall of > > the > > > price. Thoughts? > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ryan T. Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:20 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [sclug-generallist] BSD > > > > > > > > > OpenBSD is often making the bleeding edge security-based goodness > > > available quickly. Their packet filter, pf, rivals many of the > > > commercially available firewall solutions. The OS is always undergoing > > > audits to ensure its as secure as it can be. The OpenBSD folks also > > > reject applications that aren't "free" enough license-wise. > > > > > > I've used *BSDs for ages it seems that OpenBSD just keeps winning in my > > > eyes. I have oodles of OpenBSD boxes on a variety of hardware > > > platforms. I also have a couple hundred Linux-based systems and a > > > compliment of FreeBSD boxes. > > > > > > I stick to *BSDs because they just work when and where I need them to. > > > > > > --Ryan > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:58:44PM -0600, Aaron Sloan wrote: > > > > Just like many of the open source projects, there is a plentiful source > > > > of documentation. www.freebsd.org > > > > You can also join the freebsd list serve for newbies, which is very > > > > busy. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists > > > > Please search the mailing list archives first from above. Almost every > > > > question has been asked and answered. However, some answers just leave > > > > you with more questions.... but use the information they give you and do > > > > some more searching. If you don't like a challenge, freebsd or *BSD is > > > > not for you. > > > > That is what makes it fun for myself. The nuts and bolts of how it is > > > > compiled, run, and the options, oh the options.. hours of good clean > > > > fun. > > > > If I wanted it to just start up and run, I'd run one of those fancy > > > > installers in linux or, god forbid, M$. > > > > OpenBSD is doing some advanced things in security. > > > > http://www.deadly.org/ > > > > The stuff that gets me up in the morning. > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > Aaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
