Mr Lee of NVAccess / NVDA proposed on twitter yesterday having a one day
class on scripting NVDA. I guess it is time to learn Python. Anybody
interested in doing a set of regular discussions like Chip did way back to
migrate our common knowledge into NVDA scripting knowledge? I wonder how
difficult it would be to have an NVDA that emulates the favorite parts of
WindowEyes. I expect the hardest part considering that NVDA doesn't appear
to have a virtual mode would be the User Windows functions but then it
seems that WindowEyes wasn't supporting that very aggressively.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:01 PM Chip Orange via Scripting <
scripting@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> You could look at the possibility of running your app as a Windows VBScript
> rather than a Window-Eyes VBScript.  You'd have to do without the WE
> dialogs
> and all the other WE features of scripting which we all used, but if you
> don't make use of these features very much, you might be able to get a
> Windows VBScript version to run.  If you could, this would be the easiest
> way to get some apps converted away from WE.
>
> VBScript does have some very basic input and output commands (you can
> display a dialog and get a string response from the user), this could
> possibly be enough for your needs.  It has no equivalents to MSAA or
> Windows
> etc., so nothing which assisted you with accessibility is likely to run.
>
> Of course, Window-Eyes will continue to run for some indefinite amount of
> time ... and I'd be glad to share the source code to Remind Me Where with
> anyone who'd like to try tinkering with it while it does.  If you wanted to
> keep something big like it is running, I would guess learning VB.net might
> be the closest to what you're used to.
>
> Like Richard, I feel something like the end of Animal Farm as well.
>
> Take care,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scripting
> [mailto:scripting-bounces+lists3717=comcast....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of David via Scripting
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Scripting List
> Subject: migrating apps
>
> I do understand that an app that has been developed under the great
> scripting capability of WineEyes, will not be possible to simply plug in
> under Jaws. At least, it is my understanding, that Jaws has its own
> dedicated scripting system.
>
> Still, a number of apps, both officially released and many that I have
> developed for my personal usage, would be a great miss when migrating.
> Whenever the migrating will be. Smile.
>
> Now, is there a way for me, to make my apps become stand-alone, in the
> sense that they could be run under any screen reader? That they still
> would be using features like the UI capabilities and other functionality
> of for instance GWToolkit? I do understand, that apps that make great
> usage of, or directly works with internal features of WinEyes, may not
> be possible to run under any other screen readers, since they won't have
> any functionality to hook on to. But an app like for instance the
> "remind me where", that Chip Orange developed, and which base its main
> functionality on information from the net, and greatly on the UI
> environment of WinEyes scripting, sould such a program be possible to
> make go general? Sure I could have thought of a good number of other
> apps that I have come to rely on, and which would have been great to see
> under other screen readers.
>
> Guess my basic question is, what would I need to do in my app code, to
> make it possible to run outside the WinEyes environment, if that is at
> all possible? And if realistic, does there exist any sample code that I
> can look at, so as to see it done in practicality?
>
> Thanks,
>
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