What about scripting for Jaws?

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From: Scripting
[mailto:scripting-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn via Scripting
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:53 AM
To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Scripting List
Subject: Re: migrating apps

Mr Lee of NVAccess / NVDA proposed on twitter yesterday having a one day
class on scripting NVDA. I guess it is time to learn Python. Anybody
interested in doing a set of regular discussions like Chip did way back to
migrate our common knowledge into NVDA scripting knowledge? I wonder how
difficult it would be to have an NVDA that emulates the favorite parts of
WindowEyes. I expect the hardest part considering that NVDA doesn't appear
to have a virtual mode would be the User Windows functions but then it seems
that WindowEyes wasn't supporting that very aggressively.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:01 PM Chip Orange via Scripting <
scripting@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> You could look at the possibility of running your app as a Windows 
> VBScript rather than a Window-Eyes VBScript.  You'd have to do without 
> the WE dialogs and all the other WE features of scripting which we all 
> used, but if you don't make use of these features very much, you might 
> be able to get a Windows VBScript version to run.  If you could, this 
> would be the easiest way to get some apps converted away from WE.
>
> VBScript does have some very basic input and output commands (you can 
> display a dialog and get a string response from the user), this could 
> possibly be enough for your needs.  It has no equivalents to MSAA or 
> Windows etc., so nothing which assisted you with accessibility is 
> likely to run.
>
> Of course, Window-Eyes will continue to run for some indefinite amount 
> of time ... and I'd be glad to share the source code to Remind Me 
> Where with anyone who'd like to try tinkering with it while it does.  
> If you wanted to keep something big like it is running, I would guess 
> learning VB.net might be the closest to what you're used to.
>
> Like Richard, I feel something like the end of Animal Farm as well.
>
> Take care,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scripting
> [mailto:scripting-bounces+lists3717=comcast....@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of David via Scripting
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Scripting List
> Subject: migrating apps
>
> I do understand that an app that has been developed under the great 
> scripting capability of WineEyes, will not be possible to simply plug 
> in under Jaws. At least, it is my understanding, that Jaws has its own 
> dedicated scripting system.
>
> Still, a number of apps, both officially released and many that I have 
> developed for my personal usage, would be a great miss when migrating.
> Whenever the migrating will be. Smile.
>
> Now, is there a way for me, to make my apps become stand-alone, in the 
> sense that they could be run under any screen reader? That they still 
> would be using features like the UI capabilities and other 
> functionality of for instance GWToolkit? I do understand, that apps 
> that make great usage of, or directly works with internal features of 
> WinEyes, may not be possible to run under any other screen readers, 
> since they won't have any functionality to hook on to. But an app like 
> for instance the "remind me where", that Chip Orange developed, and 
> which base its main functionality on information from the net, and 
> greatly on the UI environment of WinEyes scripting, sould such a 
> program be possible to make go general? Sure I could have thought of a 
> good number of other apps that I have come to rely on, and which would 
> have been great to see under other screen readers.
>
> Guess my basic question is, what would I need to do in my app code, to 
> make it possible to run outside the WinEyes environment, if that is at 
> all possible? And if realistic, does there exist any sample code that 
> I can look at, so as to see it done in practicality?
>
> Thanks,
>
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