Thank for your perspective Cheri, and thanks for confirming my
thoughts on typical HR sessions. I didn't think I was being off base
there.

And yes John, attending these meetings is certainly an investment in
time, which is why I think we should all be reluctant to discuss just
any topic.

Welcome back to the group Cheri, and best of luck with your first
presentation Erik.

By the way, Ruby isn't a Religion, but Rubyism is ;)

Peter


On Jun 4, 3:13 pm, John Bresnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> I watched it (for the content!) and didn't find it in bad taste.. Ruby isn't
> a religion and people are allowed to have varying opinions on a range of
> things without offending each other (by simply having different ones). Plus
> we're all adults, and, mind you, ones that are bombarded with similar images
> / innuendo all day long.. my only real observation abt the issue was that
> all the chatter it raised seemed to signal that there's a lot of people with
> a lot of time on their hands.. just an opinion tho
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Erik,
>
> > If I'm already being labeled as derisive for simply saying there is
> > something I do not enjoy doing in my free time, then yes, that would
> > be the one thing I would be afraid of.
>
> > I also said the same thing about godaddy commercials, but you are not
> > questioning me about being "derisive" in that area.
>
> > Peter
>
> > On Jun 4, 1:19 pm, Erik Pukinskis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
>
> > > Thanks for speaking up.  I appreciate you being straightforward about
> > > what you are interested and not interested in.
>
> > > If you have time, I'd be interested to hear what in specific you're
> > > afraid I'm going to talk about?  You said something derisive about
> > > "corporate sensitivity training", but that doesn't mean much to me.
> > > If there's stuff you've experienced in the past that went badly I'd
> > > love to hear about it so I can avoid repeating those mistakes!
>
> > > A minute or two now could save you 15 minutes of pain tonight. :)
>
> > > Best,
> > > Erik
>
> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I would submit that as well intentioned as this effort is, it would be
> > > > one of the last things I would want the group to focus on if I were a
> > > > woman attending an SDRuby meeting for the fist time. Just my two
> > > > cents.
>
> > > > If Erik can pull it off without what my past experience of these
> > > > things has been, than more power to him.  Just as long as we don't
> > > > have to sign any release forms from HR ;)
>
> > > > Peter
>
> > > > On Jun 4, 12:21 pm, Patrick Crowley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > So I would suggest that if there are people who really want to still
> > > >> > spend time on this topic, we should split up into groups at the
> > > >> > beginning of the meeting.
>
> > > >> In general, I agree with you, Peter. We should mostly stick to
> > > >> technical topics.
>
> > > >> But, given recent events, I think it's reasonable for us to have a
> > > >> short discussion about these issues, and how we can be more inclusive
> > > >> as a community.
>
> > > >> The rough schedule for tonight's meeting is:
>
> > > >> 7:30 - 8:00 HotRuby + jQuery: Ruby in the browser
> > > >> 8:00 - 8:15 Happy Fridays demo
> > > >> 8:15 - 8:30 Just a Joke? Sexism and the Ruby Community
> > > >> 8:30 - 9:30 Hackfest
>
> > > >> So, if you want to skip something, you can always step out for a few
> > > >> minutes. ;)
>
> > > >> I'm pretty excited about tonight's meeting, though. We're setting
> > > >> aside an hour for hacking. So please bring your laptops and code!
>
> > > >> -- Patrick
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