Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[can...@believewireless.net]

I was raised on two spaces as well. But after finding out that the
"correct" modern way is one
space, I've switched. I do agree with the tabs/spaces thing when coding.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Robert  wrote:

> Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...
>
>
> On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off
>> our lawn.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)
>>
>> You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I
>> was taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago
>>> about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a single
>>> space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on, but
>>> this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences easier to
>>> read.
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/
>>> 2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-
>>> science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Bill Prince]

Oh yeah! I've had that debate many times. Your tabs can be as many 
spaces as you like, except those that make tabs=3 spaces rule the earth!



bp


On 5/6/2018 7:25 PM, Robert wrote:
Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming... 

Re: [AFMUG] Feliz Cinco De Mayo, ya'all

[Gino A. Villarini]

Did you guys enjoyed the 6th of Ketchup?

From: Af > on behalf of Jaime 
Solorza >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Feliz Cinco De Mayo, ya'all

Yum.  Enchiladas Montadas

Jaime Solorza

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 7:57 PM Sean Heskett 
> wrote:
Wait I thought it was sinkhole de mayo?!?!

https://youtu.be/XUh6Qmx0E5w

-Sean





Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 7:42 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
Enjoying a cold one!!!


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Chuck McCown]

tabs, normally 5 but sometimes 3 wide.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...

On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off 
our lawn.


-Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I 
was taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:


I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago 
about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a 
single space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages 
on, but this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences 
easier to read.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29



--

bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Adam Moffett]

I double tap the spacebar out of habit because that's how I was taught.  
Honestly, I never notice the difference unless I'm intentionally looking 
for it.  I don't know why anyone would think it was a big deal.



-- Original Message --
From: "can...@believewireless.net" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/7/2018 7:19:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

I was raised on two spaces as well. But after finding out that the 
"correct" modern way is one
space, I've switched. I do agree with the tabs/spaces thing when 
coding.


On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Robert  wrote:
Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while 
programming...



On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k 
off our lawn.


-Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what 
I was taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:


I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years 
ago about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of 
putting a single space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. 
The debate rages on, but this one study suggests that putting two 
spaces makes sentences easier to read.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29 





--

bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Bill Prince]

Just the way we like you Gino. Living dangerously!


bp


On 5/7/2018 6:09 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Im a rebel, �I use 3 spaces after a dot! � 2 spaces after a coma! � Lol!

From: Af > on 
behalf of "li...@packetflux.com " 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Monday, May 7, 2018 at 8:04 AM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

I like spaces.

But I want my tab key to add the correct amount of spaces for the indent.

Fortunately it seems that most editors I use to edit code have a 
setting to do just that.� The ones that don't are a pain in the rear 
since I'm not consistent in the use of tabs vs spaces since I expect 
my editor to do the right thing and treat the tab key as a 'insert a 
few spaces for me' key.


As far as single or double spaces... well, I'm a double spacing person 
when I type, even though I know that a single space is considered 
'better' anymore due to modern typefaces inserting the correct amount 
of space with only a single space.� �HTML also ignores double spaces 
by default, so most of the web runs on single spaces.


*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Robert > wrote:


Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while
programming...

On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Double spacers of the world unite. Everybody else can get the
fu*k off our lawn.

-Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com

Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces. For me that
is what I was taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see
single space.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince
> wrote:


I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a
couple years ago about the advantages/disadvantages and
goodness/badness of putting a single space after a
sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on,
but this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes
sentences easier to read.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29





-- 


bp






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Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I like spaces.

But I want my tab key to add the correct amount of spaces for the indent.

Fortunately it seems that most editors I use to edit code have a setting to
do just that.  The ones that don't are a pain in the rear since I'm not
consistent in the use of tabs vs spaces since I expect my editor to do the
right thing and treat the tab key as a 'insert a few spaces for me' key.

As far as single or double spaces... well, I'm a double spacing person when
I type, even though I know that a single space is considered 'better'
anymore due to modern typefaces inserting the correct amount of space with
only a single space.   HTML also ignores double spaces by default, so most
of the web runs on single spaces.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Robert  wrote:

> Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...
>
> On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off
>> our lawn.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)
>>
>> You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I
>> was taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago
>>> about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a single
>>> space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on, but
>>> this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences easier to
>>> read.
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/
>>> 2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-
>>> science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>


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Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[Gino A. Villarini]

Im a rebel,  I use 3 spaces after a dot!   2 spaces after a coma!   Lol!

From: Af > on behalf of 
"li...@packetflux.com" 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Monday, May 7, 2018 at 8:04 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

I like spaces.

But I want my tab key to add the correct amount of spaces for the indent.

Fortunately it seems that most editors I use to edit code have a setting to do 
just that.  The ones that don't are a pain in the rear since I'm not consistent 
in the use of tabs vs spaces since I expect my editor to do the right thing and 
treat the tab key as a 'insert a few spaces for me' key.

As far as single or double spaces... well, I'm a double spacing person when I 
type, even though I know that a single space is considered 'better' anymore due 
to modern typefaces inserting the correct amount of space with only a single 
space.   HTML also ignores double spaces by default, so most of the web runs on 
single spaces.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Robert 
> wrote:
Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...

On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off our 
lawn.

-Original Message- From: 
ja...@remotelylocated.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I was 
taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:


I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago about 
the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a single space 
after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on, but this one 
study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences easier to read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-space-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredirect=on_term=.b61d35728d29



--

bp






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Re: [AFMUG] Feliz Cinco De Mayo, ya'all

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...no... ketchup is for French Fries... period..
Of course my family doesn't listen to me on that...

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, May 7, 2018, 7:24 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> Did you guys enjoyed the 6th of Ketchup?
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Feliz Cinco De Mayo, ya'all
>
> Yum.  Enchiladas Montadas
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 7:57 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Wait I thought it was sinkhole de mayo?!?!
>>
>> https://youtu.be/XUh6Qmx0E5w
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 7:42 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Enjoying a cold one!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[chuck]

The plate on the end is coated with a metallic coating on the side facing the N 
connectors.  I think it is plastic.  

Need to make sure that is still on there.  If not use spray glue and carefully 
apply some aluminum foil to the side toward the N connectors.  In any event 
that wavy surface needs to be metallic.  It is a weird semi cassegrain sub 
reflector that re-bounces the signal from the main reflector into the 
waveguide.  

Between the plate and the circular waveguide tube is a short segment of 
fiberglass tube.  Make sure nothing is covering that fiberglass section other 
than paint.  The fiberglass is there to hold up the plate.  It will work with 
nothing there as long as the plate is spaced a certain distance from the end of 
the metallic tube.  

Inside the N connectors there is really nothing but waveguide probes.  Just 
take off the N connectors, clean them and the waveguide probe (brass knob 
thingy)  and put them back in.  

There is very little to fail here.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 5:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

Should be fixable.  Just clean it out and seal it up.  I can test it for you if 
you want.  

From: Brian Sullivan 
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 5:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had some water 
ingress and the inside looks corroded.
Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this piece.  Need 
2 or 3 if possible.
I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has failed me 
once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more than a new dish.
 

[AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[Brian Sullivan]

I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had 
some water ingress and the inside looks corroded.
Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this 
piece.  Need 2 or 3 if possible.
I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has 
failed me once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more 
than a new dish.

[AFMUG] 3.65GHz NN License

[Chuck Hogg]

Does anyone have one for sale?  Hit me up offline.  Thanks!

Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[SmarterBroadband]

I do 3 after a full stop. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 6:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

 

Im a rebel,  I use 3 spaces after a dot!   2 spaces after a coma!   Lol!

 

From: Af  > on behalf of
"li...@packetflux.com  "  >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Date: Monday, May 7, 2018 at 8:04 AM
To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

 

I like spaces. 

 

But I want my tab key to add the correct amount of spaces for the indent.

 

Fortunately it seems that most editors I use to edit code have a setting to
do just that.  The ones that don't are a pain in the rear since I'm not
consistent in the use of tabs vs spaces since I expect my editor to do the
right thing and treat the tab key as a 'insert a few spaces for me' key.

 

As far as single or double spaces... well, I'm a double spacing person when
I type, even though I know that a single space is considered 'better'
anymore due to modern typefaces inserting the correct amount of space with
only a single space.   HTML also ignores double spaces by default, so most
of the web runs on single spaces.

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Robert  > wrote:

Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...

On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off our
lawn.

-Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I was
taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince  > wrote:



I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago
about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a single
space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on, but
this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences easier to
read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-sp
ace-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredi
rect=on
 _term=.b61d35728d29



-- 

bp


 





 

-- 


Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

  forre...@imach.com |
 http://www.packetflux.com

    
 

  

 

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[chuck]

Should be fixable.  Just clean it out and seal it up.  I can test it for you if 
you want.  

From: Brian Sullivan 
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 5:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had some water 
ingress and the inside looks corroded.
Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this piece.  Need 
2 or 3 if possible.
I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has failed me 
once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more than a new dish.
 

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[Colin Stanners]

https://www.winncom.com/en/search?q=laird%20feed  if you have an account
the prices are quite reasonable I think.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had some
> water ingress and the inside looks corroded.
> Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this piece.
> Need 2 or 3 if possible.
> I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has failed
> me once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more than a new
> dish.
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS problems around 11:30 to 1:30 every night

[Steve Jones]

did you find any resolution? we are starting to see this between 2pm and
6pm at different sites, but not all APs at the sites, only common thin is
theyre mounted on the east side, but have full 360 degree sky. switching to
internal fixes it, but internal is just generating sync isnt it? it takes
away the front/back option in the gui
EPMP is rock solid stuff, with the exception of puck issues

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> FWIW it's on the south side of a water tower.  There's little to no signal
> from the northern sky.
>
> Of course I'm pretty sure the tower isn't moving some weird way every
> night...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018, 6:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Just checking ours. I thought it happened once every month or two, but I
>> guess it's not even that often. The snapshot from the last 3 months
>> indicate that it got close to losing it in week 12, but it seems to have
>> lived through it, even though it got down to 3 satellites tracked.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 4/6/2018 2:48 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> We have this at a couple sites each year.  Usually, I can mount the GPS
>> antenna in a different place and solve the issue.  Whats interesting is, I
>> don't see this issue with the SyncBoxes, only CMM Micro.  And I have both
>> at the same towers affected.
>>
>> On 4/6/2018 4:39 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> We have a SyncInjector mounted on the south side of a concrete building.
>> The building is thick concrete ( > 12"),  and extends up above the location
>> of the GPS antenna 30 or 40 feet. The building is also a shallow "V" shape
>> with the GPS antenna at inside base of the V. So the GPS antenna gets about
>> 170° view of the sky to the south.
>>
>> It goes through a periodic cycle of visibility, but it's not the same
>> time every night, or even every day.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 4/6/2018 2:20 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> But the question is, why at the same time every day?   Especially since
>> the gps satellites don't orbit on a 24 hour period...   that's what has me
>> troubled with my customer.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018, 2:11 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Exposure to the north or south should not make a significant difference.
>>> GPS satellites, excepting the WAAS satellites, are not in geostationary
>>> orbits. They are (mostly?) in medium earth orbit of around 12,000 miles.
>>>
>>> I think it may be more of how much of the sky they can see.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/6/2018 1:45 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>> how much exposure to the northern hemisphere does it have?
>>> If I remember those antennas are fairly small
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/06/2018 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> I have an epmp that has GPS problems and goes into the hold timer for a
>>> few minutes every single night for the last many months (maybe even a
>>> year).
>>>
>>> Didn't think much of it until I noticed all of the times being right
>>> around midnight, give or take...
>>>
>>> WTF?  Any ideas what's causing it?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> 
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[Steve Jones]

feedhorn prices tends to be a little over half the cost of a new antenna on
quality antennas ive come to realize. price shock the first time we
replaced them, but it makes sense, without a feedhorn its just a useless
bowl with a hole

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> https://www.winncom.com/en/search?q=laird%20feed  if you have an account
> the prices are quite reasonable I think.
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian Sullivan 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had some
>> water ingress and the inside looks corroded.
>> Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this
>> piece.  Need 2 or 3 if possible.
>> I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has failed
>> me once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more than a new
>> dish.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

[Dave]

Forrest,
 What is the dimensions for one of these units?
I mainly need to know depth
Thanks
dave


On 04/30/2018 05:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
If you have a base unit attached to these, you should look at the 
event counters on the tripped line in the binary/boolean tab to 
determine if the device is detecting an overcurrent event.    If it's 
seeing an overcurrent trip, then yes, check the surge suppressors.


The other item is what has been mentioned, if you have too low of a 
voltage into the PowerInjector, the ePMP's will reboot.   This is 
especially true in cold weather since the units seem to draw more even 
after startup.   You need around at least 26V on the input of the 
power injector, if not a bit more, for an ePMP to run correctly on a 
full 100m of cable. You could probably get away with a bit lower 
voltage on shorter runs.


The 10/100 injector doesn't drop quite as many volts due to it being a 
switch closure instead of a semiconductor junction, so you might be 
right on the edge of what is acceptable.


BTW, too low of voltage will also cause 'trips', as when the voltage 
drops below acceptable ranges for the ePMP, the ePMP power supply 
circuit tries to pull more and more power from the CAT5 cable, 
eventually causing what looks like a brief short circuit just before 
it shuts down.


On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


I've got two of these with problems:
http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/



However one of these gives me no problems:

http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/



I have a 24vdc plant going up the tower.  In the box it feeds
these three Packetflux units.  The 4 channel POE injector has
given me 0 problems.

I've got Cambium ePMP on the PowerInjector and it has been
randomly? rebooting units for several months. Yesterday one of the
ports just decided to turn off for 20 minutes and come right
back.  We've replaced the line & radio to make sure it's the box,
but all signs point to it.

Has anyone else seen this or am I lucky in getting the only two
units with power problems on them?  AFAIK sync has been just as
reliable as the power through them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St


Suite 1337


Troy, OH 45373






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Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Chuck McCown]

Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a very 
short lived REV.  
The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of the 
jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So we went 
back to the older jacks.  

Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace them 
if you want.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new ones?  
They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did check a 
couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so at least 
it's making connection still. 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Mathew Howard]

I had some of those too... I got them from Streakwave, around March, I
think (although it's possible those were ones I had sitting here for
awhile, and I got different ones then... I don't know for certain).

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a
> very short lived REV.
> The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of
> the jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So
> we went back to the older jacks.
>
> Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace
> them if you want.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
>
> Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new
> ones?  They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did
> check a couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so
> at least it's making connection still.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Steve Jones]

I cuss chuck by name everytime i put a new card in a new PRM

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with them, just feel a bit loose in the cage.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
>
> I had some of those too... I got them from Streakwave, around March, I
> think (although it's possible those were ones I had sitting here for
> awhile, and I got different ones then... I don't know for certain).
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a
>> very short lived REV.
>> The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of
>> the jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So
>> we went back to the older jacks.
>>
>> Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace
>> them if you want.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
>>
>> Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new
>> ones?  They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did
>> check a couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so
>> at least it's making connection still.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> 
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Josh Luthman]

Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new
ones?  They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did
check a couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so
at least it's making connection still.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Chuck McCown]

There is nothing wrong with them, just feel a bit loose in the cage.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 10:16 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

I had some of those too... I got them from Streakwave, around March, I think 
(although it's possible those were ones I had sitting here for awhile, and I 
got different ones then... I don't know for certain).


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a very 
short lived REV.  
  The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of the 
jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So we went 
back to the older jacks.  

  Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace 
them if you want.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

  Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new ones?  
They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did check a 
couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so at least 
it's making connection still. 

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i purchased from cti about two weeks ago, same issue.  even came with the 
warning labels.
i am OK with them - i put them in odd numbered jacks.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 11:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size


  Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a very 
short lived REV.  
  The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of the 
jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So we went 
back to the older jacks.  

  Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace 
them if you want.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

  Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new ones?  
They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did check a 
couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so at least 
it's making connection still. 

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I didn't have any problems, but there apparently is quite a bit of
older stock around.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with them, just feel a bit loose in the cage.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
>
> I had some of those too... I got them from Streakwave, around March, I
> think (although it's possible those were ones I had sitting here for
> awhile, and I got different ones then... I don't know for certain).
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Odd, we have not made those thin cards since last summer and only for a
>> very short lived REV.
>> The jacks were so tall that even with the thin cards and removing some of
>> the jack shield there was still a danger of touching the adjacent card.  So
>> we went back to the older jacks.
>>
>> Wonder who you got them from as that is pretty old stock.  I will replace
>> them if you want.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 10:05 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] APC surge cards board size
>>
>> Did anyone else notice the newest cards are much thinner than the new
>> ones?  They slide in/out of the WBMFG APC case a whole lot easier.  We did
>> check a couple to make sure we had continuity from the shield to ground, so
>> at least it's making connection still.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> 
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>