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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-19 Thread alastair

Hi

Why dont you head over to cobbler@github and open an issue? Since systemd on 
ubuntu 16.04 appears identical to that on el7, network manager is also very 
similar and you have the choice of configuring networking the old debian way or 
via network manager. What i am trying to say is the network manager method may 
be more prevalent in the future and the cobbler devs might already have a plan 
for this for future releases.

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-Original Message-
From: William Muriithi <william.murii...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:15
Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

Johan

Matt responded to you a while ago with a solution.  Essentially, he
suggested you add some post install configurations on your kickstart
configuration.  I still think its may take more than that as you will
want to use "cobbler system" which extend the basic kickstart
configurations.

If I was in your shoes though, I wouldn't do this on cobbler.  It fit
better on ansible, so I would just set a role for teaming.  If you are
using ansible or puppet, consider looking for a solution from that
angle

Regards
William

On 19 October 2016 at 12:40,  <johanwint...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction.
>
> my second question in now answered.
>
> My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler.
>
> What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in 
> the next release.
> (bonding in rhel7 is deprecated )
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-19 Thread William Muriithi

Johan

Matt responded to you a while ago with a solution.  Essentially, he
suggested you add some post install configurations on your kickstart
configuration.  I still think its may take more than that as you will
want to use "cobbler system" which extend the basic kickstart
configurations.

If I was in your shoes though, I wouldn't do this on cobbler.  It fit
better on ansible, so I would just set a role for teaming.  If you are
using ansible or puppet, consider looking for a solution from that
angle

Regards
William

On 19 October 2016 at 12:40,   wrote:
> Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction.
>
> my second question in now answered.
>
> My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler.
>
> What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in 
> the next release.
> (bonding in rhel7 is deprecated )
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-19 Thread johanwinter1

Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction.

my second question in now answered.

My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler.

What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in the 
next release.
(bonding in rhel7 is deprecated )
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-15 Thread Matt Luettgen

There are multiple reasons why teaming is better than bonding and fiber.  I
am also making an attempt to get Johan an answer instead of conjecture.

It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to have cobbler setup teaming
via config files with a trigger during post-install...

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html#sec-Creating_a_Network_Team_Using_ifcfg_Files

https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/CobblerTriggers


On Oct 15, 2016 4:19 AM, <alast...@alastair-munro.com> wrote:

>

> >

> :) good answer.
>
> If Matt needs higher throughput has he considered a fibre card? Or if its
disk IO san might be better over nas? Just a thought.
>
> Personally i would just bond it and wait until someone complains about
performance. Can always manually reconfigure it afterwards. :)
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: bishop <bis...@platypus.bc.ca>
> Cc: cobbler mailing list <cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 2:08
> Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
>
> More user-space frailty so we can add more layers?
>
> I'm not sure linux is keeping back at Usable, T.B.H.  ;-)
>
> Either way, it seems the creation and config of a shiny new config file
> to do most of what we already can do as well as LACP, is something we
> can accomplish in %post.
>
> 2c.
>  - ..
>
>
> alast...@alastair-munro.com <alast...@alastair-munro.com> wrote:
> > Ok fair enough.
> >
> > I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those
> > kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04 <1604> .
Maybe there
> > is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you
> > dont need to do os installs?
> >
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> >
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-15 Thread alastair

:) good answer.

If Matt needs higher throughput has he considered a fibre card? Or if its disk 
IO san might be better over nas? Just a thought.

Personally i would just bond it and wait until someone complains about 
performance. Can always manually reconfigure it afterwards. :)

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-Original Message-
From: bishop <bis...@platypus.bc.ca>
Cc: cobbler mailing list <cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org>
Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 2:08
Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

More user-space frailty so we can add more layers?

I'm not sure linux is keeping back at Usable, T.B.H.  ;-)

Either way, it seems the creation and config of a shiny new config file
to do most of what we already can do as well as LACP, is something we
can accomplish in %post.

2c.
 - ..

alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote:
> Ok fair enough.
> 
> I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those
> kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04 . Maybe there
> is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you
> dont need to do os installs?
> 
> --
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> 
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-14 Thread alastair

Ok fair enough.

I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those kernel 
options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04. Maybe there is a future roadmap for 
cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you dont need to do os installs?

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From: Matt Luettgen <mattluett...@gmail.com>
To: alast...@alastair-munro.com
Cc: cobbler mailing list <cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org>
Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:14
Subject: Re: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

teamd has better speeds, options, etc...

http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/06/23/team-driver

On Oct 14, 2016 12:00 PM, <alast...@alastair-munro.com> wrote:

> Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason
> why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding.
>
> A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it):
>
> http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html
>
> I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit
> more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options.
>
> net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
>
>
> On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote:
>
>> Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was
>> designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the
>> login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically
>> using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded.
>> Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static
>> network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION
>> USING SYSCONFIG FILES.
>>
>> Note this section:
>>
>> 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER
>>
>> In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is
>> provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and
>> configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and
>> connections up and active when they are available. The traditional
>> ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8,
>> “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information.
>>
>> So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring
>> networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir.
>>
>> I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler?
>>
>> I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using
>> network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older
>> method?
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>> On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote:
>>
>>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp
>>> rise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_
>>> Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" <or...@cora.nwra.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7
>>>>> machines with teamd config on cobbler.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know nothing about teamd.  What needs to get configured on a
>>>> target machine?
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1]
>>>> NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2]
>>>> 3380 Mitchell Lane  or...@cora.nwra.com
>>>> Boulder, CO 80301  http://www.cora.nwra.com
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-14 Thread Matt Luettgen

teamd has better speeds, options, etc...

http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/06/23/team-driver

On Oct 14, 2016 12:00 PM,  wrote:

> Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason
> why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding.
>
> A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it):
>
> http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html
>
> I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit
> more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options.
>
> net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
>
>
> On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote:
>
>> Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was
>> designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the
>> login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically
>> using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded.
>> Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static
>> network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION
>> USING SYSCONFIG FILES.
>>
>> Note this section:
>>
>> 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER
>>
>> In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is
>> provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and
>> configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and
>> connections up and active when they are available. The traditional
>> ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8,
>> “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information.
>>
>> So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring
>> networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir.
>>
>> I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler?
>>
>> I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using
>> network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older
>> method?
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>> On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote:
>>
>>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp
>>> rise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_
>>> Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7
> machines with teamd config on cobbler.
>

 I know nothing about teamd.  What needs to get configured on a
 target machine?

 --
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 Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1]
 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2]
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>>>
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-14 Thread alastair

Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason
why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding.

A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it):

http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html

I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit
more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options.

net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0

On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote:

Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was
designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the
login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically
using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded.
Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static
network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION
USING SYSCONFIG FILES.

Note this section:

1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER

In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is
provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and
configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and
connections up and active when they are available. The traditional
ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8,
“NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information.

So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring
networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir.

I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler?

I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using
network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older
method?

Alastair

On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html

On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski"
wrote:

On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote:

Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7
machines with teamd config on cobbler.

I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a
target machine?

--
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Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1]
NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2]
3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com
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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-14 Thread alastair

Note this section:

1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER

In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is
provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and
configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and
connections up and active when they are available. The traditional ifcfg
type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8,
“NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information.

So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring networking,
using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir.

I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler?

I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using
network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older method?

Alastair

On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html

On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski"
wrote:

On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote:

Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7
machines with teamd config on cobbler.

I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a
target machine?

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[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler

2016-10-14 Thread Orion Poplawski


On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote:

Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 machines with 
teamd config on cobbler.


I know nothing about teamd.  What needs to get configured on a target 
machine?


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