Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> That explains a lot.
>
> So the ethernet comes in straight from their box, and the Actiontec is
> simply a wireless router.
>

Yes but I think the Actiontec also manages the cable boxes and provides on
demand TV services to the cable boxes.

Lots of stuff seems to happen in the outside box.  The clear QAM TV cable
comes out of there as well as the phone and ethernet.


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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

That explains a lot.

So the ethernet comes in straight from their box, and the Actiontec 
is simply a wireless router.


Stewart


At 06:35 PM 5/23/2009, you wrote:

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> OK first of all if it is COAX it is not DSL it is cable service.  (I looked
> it up this is a FIOS modem router.)
>
> The airport should probably be disconnected and solely let the wireless
> MacBook be looking only for the DSL wireless base station.
>
> Another scenario is to hook the Airport into the router (one of the L:AN
> ports) and try connecting your mothers MacBook to the Airport and not the
> Actiontec.
>
>
They use the Actiontec to feed the the TV boxes through the COAX on my  FIOS
setup.   The network comes in on an ethernet cable from the outside FIOS box
to the Actiontec router/modem.



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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> OK first of all if it is COAX it is not DSL it is cable service.  (I looked
> it up this is a FIOS modem router.)
>
> The airport should probably be disconnected and solely let the wireless
> MacBook be looking only for the DSL wireless base station.
>
> Another scenario is to hook the Airport into the router (one of the L:AN
> ports) and try connecting your mothers MacBook to the Airport and not the
> Actiontec.
>
>
They use the Actiontec to feed the the TV boxes through the COAX on my  FIOS
setup.   The network comes in on an ethernet cable from the outside FIOS box
to the Actiontec router/modem.



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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[David K Watson]

I had prepared a fairly detailed reply about how to set up your
Airport to use a USB printer, then I noticed the "IP" in your
printer name and looked it up.  The Canon PIXMA iP90v
has built-in wireless.  If you go to 
and look for the downloads for your printer, you can find
the latest setup utility and drivers.



From:Sandra Raredon 

Thank you David for the very informative response!  She is getting the
signal from the wireless modem and using the WEP key printed on the  
modem.
The ESSID is also the same as on the modem.   I will remove the  
airport bas=

e
station and see what happens; the base station then is not needed in  
this

case, since she is getting a signal from the dsl modem.
She also has a small Canon PIXMA printer, iP90v.  Everytime she  
wants to
print she just takes the macbook and walks it to the printer and  
connects t=

o
it via usb. Can the Airport base station be used in this case to get  
the

printer to work wirelessly from the Macbook?  Thanks again.



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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[Sandra Raredon]

Thank you David for the very informative response!  She is getting the
signal from the wireless modem and using the WEP key printed on the modem.
The ESSID is also the same as on the modem.   I will remove the airport base
station and see what happens; the base station then is not needed in this
case, since she is getting a signal from the dsl modem.
She also has a small Canon PIXMA printer, iP90v.  Everytime she wants to
print she just takes the macbook and walks it to the printer and connects to
it via usb. Can the Airport base station be used in this case to get the
printer to work wirelessly from the Macbook?  Thanks again.

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, David K Watson
wrote:

> First, turn off the Airport for now, so it doesn't complicate things.
> Also, go to Network preferences for your macbook and select the
> "Show Airport status in menu bar" option if you haven't already.
>
> Try unplugging the power from the Verizon modem and see if
> the MacBook is still getting a signal.  Given the bad performance
> your mom's been having in the same room as the modem, I'm
> betting she isn't even connecting to her own modem and is instead
> using someone else's open network.
>
> Whether that's the case or not, power the Verizon modem back
> up and make sure that the lights indicate that it's getting a
> network connection and the wireless is turned on.  If the modem
> lights are not showing green, make sure that the coax cable is
> firmly connected to the modem,and if so, then call Verizon to
> straighten things out.  (They'll want you to have the Macbook
> connected to the modem with an ethernet cable for this.)
>
> If the modem shows green after it is powered up (after a few
> seconds of blinking you should see green lights next to the
> power, world and antenna symbols on the modem), try
> connecting again.  Sometimes the modem will freeze for no
> good reason and re-powering will fix it.  Click on the airport
> symbol in the menu bar and make sure that it is your modem's
> wireless that you are connecting to.  The factory defaults for the
> modem's wireless name (ESSID) and password (WEP key)
> are printed on a plate on the modem.
>
> If the verizon modem is not in the list of available networks when
> you click on the airport symbol in the menu bar, then reset the
> modem to its factory default by gently poking a paperclip end into
> the reset switch hole in the back and holding it there for a few
> seconds, then try again.
>
> Once you have gotten a wireless connection to your modem,
> go to the Network pane of System Preferences, select the
> airport and the advanced tab, and delete every network but
> yours from the preferred networks list to make it less likely
> that you join someone else's network by accident.
>
> If you get this working, check to see if it is adequate to your
> mom's needs.  If it is, then the airport base station is an
> unnecessary complication and I'd just forget about it.  If the
> Verizon modem's range is not good enough, or if your mom
> wants to be able to print by wireless to a USB printer, then
> get back to us on that.
>
>
>  From:Sandra Raredon 
>>
>> I have looked over the whole system at my mother' house yesterday.  Wow, I
>> dont know how she even got on line!!!.  Here is the actual scenario:
>> DSL wireless modem from Verizon , Actiontec model M 1424WR.
>> The coax cable is coming into the house and is attached to the wireless
>> modem...(.the modem has a cheap looking moveable antenna).  The only other
>> thing attached to the modem is the ac adapter..there are no other
>> cable=
>> s
>> or wires plugged into the modem. The modem is in the same room where the
>> ne=
>> w
>> MacBook is located.
>> In another room at back of the house, there is the Airport base station,
>> looks like an Igloo).  The only things attached to that are a telephone
>> line, and a ac adapter.
>>
>> The MacBook does pick up a signalbut it must be the signal from the
>> wireless modemit takes a long time for internet sites to open
>> etc..
>> I am wondering how to get a better connection?  The Airport was put in
>> because it routed the signal to a mac mini.  An ethernet cable was used
>> between the mac mini and the base station.  The mac mini is no longer in
>> th=
>> e
>> house.   The Airport base station just sits on the desk in the back room.
>>
>> I really would appreciate any more ideas how to make this better.
>> Thanks,
>> Sandra.
>>
>>
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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[David K Watson]

First, turn off the Airport for now, so it doesn't complicate things.
Also, go to Network preferences for your macbook and select the
"Show Airport status in menu bar" option if you haven't already.

Try unplugging the power from the Verizon modem and see if
the MacBook is still getting a signal.  Given the bad performance
your mom's been having in the same room as the modem, I'm
betting she isn't even connecting to her own modem and is instead
using someone else's open network.

Whether that's the case or not, power the Verizon modem back
up and make sure that the lights indicate that it's getting a
network connection and the wireless is turned on.  If the modem
lights are not showing green, make sure that the coax cable is
firmly connected to the modem,and if so, then call Verizon to
straighten things out.  (They'll want you to have the Macbook
connected to the modem with an ethernet cable for this.)

If the modem shows green after it is powered up (after a few
seconds of blinking you should see green lights next to the
power, world and antenna symbols on the modem), try
connecting again.  Sometimes the modem will freeze for no
good reason and re-powering will fix it.  Click on the airport
symbol in the menu bar and make sure that it is your modem's
wireless that you are connecting to.  The factory defaults for the
modem's wireless name (ESSID) and password (WEP key)
are printed on a plate on the modem.

If the verizon modem is not in the list of available networks when
you click on the airport symbol in the menu bar, then reset the
modem to its factory default by gently poking a paperclip end into
the reset switch hole in the back and holding it there for a few
seconds, then try again.

Once you have gotten a wireless connection to your modem,
go to the Network pane of System Preferences, select the
airport and the advanced tab, and delete every network but
yours from the preferred networks list to make it less likely
that you join someone else's network by accident.

If you get this working, check to see if it is adequate to your
mom's needs.  If it is, then the airport base station is an
unnecessary complication and I'd just forget about it.  If the
Verizon modem's range is not good enough, or if your mom
wants to be able to print by wireless to a USB printer, then
get back to us on that.



From:Sandra Raredon 

I have looked over the whole system at my mother' house yesterday.   
Wow, I

dont know how she even got on line!!!.  Here is the actual scenario:
DSL wireless modem from Verizon , Actiontec model M 1424WR.
The coax cable is coming into the house and is attached to the  
wireless
modem...(.the modem has a cheap looking moveable antenna).  The only  
other
thing attached to the modem is the ac adapter..there are no  
other cable=

s
or wires plugged into the modem. The modem is in the same room where  
the ne=

w
MacBook is located.
In another room at back of the house, there is the Airport base  
station,
looks like an Igloo).  The only things attached to that are a  
telephone

line, and a ac adapter.

The MacBook does pick up a signalbut it must be the signal from  
the
wireless modemit takes a long time for internet sites to open  
etc..

I am wondering how to get a better connection?  The Airport was put in
because it routed the signal to a mac mini.  An ethernet cable was  
used
between the mac mini and the base station.  The mac mini is no  
longer in th=

e
house.   The Airport base station just sits on the desk in the back  
room.


I really would appreciate any more ideas how to make this better.
Thanks,

Sandra.




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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

OK first of all if it is COAX it is not DSL it is cable service.  (I 
looked it up this is a FIOS modem router.)


The airport should probably be disconnected and solely let the 
wireless MacBook be looking only for the DSL wireless base station.


Another scenario is to hook the Airport into the router (one of the 
L:AN ports) and try connecting your mothers MacBook to the Airport 
and not the Actiontec.


Stewart


At 12:01 PM 5/21/2009, you wrote:

I have looked over the whole system at my mother' house yesterday.  Wow, I
dont know how she even got on line!!!.  Here is the actual scenario:
DSL wireless modem from Verizon , Actiontec model M 1424WR.
The coax cable is coming into the house and is attached to the wireless
modem...(.the modem has a cheap looking moveable antenna).  The only other
thing attached to the modem is the ac adapter..there are no other cables
or wires plugged into the modem. The modem is in the same room where the new
MacBook is located.
In another room at back of the house, there is the Airport base station,
looks like an Igloo).  The only things attached to that are a telephone
line, and a ac adapter.

The MacBook does pick up a signalbut it must be the signal from the
wireless modemit takes a long time for internet sites to open etc..
I am wondering how to get a better connection?  The Airport was put in
because it routed the signal to a mac mini.  An ethernet cable was used
between the mac mini and the base station.  The mac mini is no longer in the
house.   The Airport base station just sits on the desk in the back room.

I really would appreciate any more ideas how to make this better.   Thanks,
Sandra.


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mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[Sandra Raredon]

I have looked over the whole system at my mother' house yesterday.  Wow, I
dont know how she even got on line!!!.  Here is the actual scenario:
DSL wireless modem from Verizon , Actiontec model M 1424WR.
The coax cable is coming into the house and is attached to the wireless
modem...(.the modem has a cheap looking moveable antenna).  The only other
thing attached to the modem is the ac adapter..there are no other cables
or wires plugged into the modem. The modem is in the same room where the new
MacBook is located.
In another room at back of the house, there is the Airport base station,
looks like an Igloo).  The only things attached to that are a telephone
line, and a ac adapter.

The MacBook does pick up a signalbut it must be the signal from the
wireless modemit takes a long time for internet sites to open etc..
I am wondering how to get a better connection?  The Airport was put in
because it routed the signal to a mac mini.  An ethernet cable was used
between the mac mini and the base station.  The mac mini is no longer in the
house.   The Airport base station just sits on the desk in the back room.

I really would appreciate any more ideas how to make this better.   Thanks,
Sandra.


On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM, David K Watson
wrote:

> You shouldn't need a new Airport, the problem seems to be with
> your network settings, with your system holding on to an old setting
> that it ought to forget.  When you have deleted the old network
> and leave the Network settings pane and you are given the option
> to apply new settings, are you sure that you are accepting the
> "Apply new network settings" option?  If that wasn't the problem,
> try going to the Advanced Tab of the network settings and deleting
> the old network again, only this time uncheck the "Remember any
> Network this computer has joined" option first.  Then quit the new
> network and rejoin it, then go back and recheck that option so you
> don't have to type in the network password every time you join it.
>
> Another thing you can try is to go to the Network pane of System
> Preferences, and at the top where you see the Location:  popup menu,
> select Edit locations…, create a new location and use that in place
> of the one you are using now.
>
>  From:Sandra Raredon 
>>
>> My mom recently upgraded from Ibook to MacBook, Leopard OS.  Everytime she
>> wants to use wi-fi , her new computer keeps trying to log on the old
>> networ=
>> k
>> name.  She is using a new network, so there is a conflict now.  We tried
>> to
>> go to the advance mode and delete the old network, but it keeps coming
>> back.  If I get a new Airport express (she was and is using the Aiport
>> base
>> station now), the small plug in adapterwill that solve the problem?
>>  Th=
>> e
>> problem is, I do not know anything about setting up networkall she
>> want=
>> s
>> to do is use her macbook in the kitchen, and connect via wi-fi.   Does she
>> need another Airport base station or will an Airport express
>> work..thanks for helping!
>>
>>
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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[David K Watson]

You shouldn't need a new Airport, the problem seems to be with
your network settings, with your system holding on to an old setting
that it ought to forget.  When you have deleted the old network
and leave the Network settings pane and you are given the option
to apply new settings, are you sure that you are accepting the
"Apply new network settings" option?  If that wasn't the problem,
try going to the Advanced Tab of the network settings and deleting
the old network again, only this time uncheck the "Remember any
Network this computer has joined" option first.  Then quit the new
network and rejoin it, then go back and recheck that option so you
don't have to type in the network password every time you join it.

Another thing you can try is to go to the Network pane of System
Preferences, and at the top where you see the Location:  popup menu,
select Edit locations…, create a new location and use that in place
of the one you are using now.


From:Sandra Raredon 

My mom recently upgraded from Ibook to MacBook, Leopard OS.   
Everytime she
wants to use wi-fi , her new computer keeps trying to log on the old  
networ=

k
name.  She is using a new network, so there is a conflict now.  We  
tried to

go to the advance mode and delete the old network, but it keeps coming
back.  If I get a new Airport express (she was and is using the  
Aiport base
station now), the small plug in adapterwill that solve the  
problem?  Th=

e
problem is, I do not know anything about setting up networkall  
she want=

s
to do is use her macbook in the kitchen, and connect via wi-fi.
Does she

need another Airport base station or will an Airport express
work..thanks for helping!




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Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

[Jordan]

Generally when a Mac does not see a network it has joined before and 
sees a new network, It will simply ask you if you want to join the new 
network.
I suggest you call Apple and have them help you with your settings. If 
someone has messed with the settings or if your router is acting funny, 
it can be tough to nail a problem down.


Sandra Raredon wrote:

My mom recently upgraded from Ibook to MacBook, Leopard OS.  Everytime she
wants to use wi-fi , her new computer keeps trying to log on the old network
name.  She is using a new network, so there is a conflict now.  We tried to
go to the advance mode and delete the old network, but it keeps coming
back.  If I get a new Airport express (she was and is using the Aiport base
station now), the small plug in adapterwill that solve the problem?  The
problem is, I do not know anything about setting up networkall she wants
to do is use her macbook in the kitchen, and connect via wi-fi.   Does she
need another Airport base station or will an Airport express
work..thanks for helping!


  



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