enable 16bit and 24bit

[David Puryear]

Hi all,

Is it possible to enable different depth for different resolutions? What I
would like to be able to do is:

8bit for 1024x768 and 320x240
   16bit for 800x600
   24bit for 640x480

This way I can do Ctrl-Alt + or - to change depth. I have 1 meg on video card.

Thanks for any information on whether this is possible, and if so, how to
change XF86Config file or another.

Thanks,
David


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Re: Print to IP

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Greg Vence wrote:
> 
> How/where could I find info on printing to an IP printer?
> 

If the printer supports LPR (newer HP printers with the network
interface do), then you simply need to get up the proper entry in
/etc/printcap and make sure you have the lpr package installed.
(You may want to look at magicfilter too, it will auto-magically
translate various types of files to raw printer language for you.)
You'll need an entry in /etc/printcap which looks like:

lp|My Local HP Laserjet 5P:\
:lp=:rm=PRINTER-NAME:rp=PRINTER:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Where PRINTER-NAME is the hostname of your printer (you must have
an entry in /etc/hosts with the name, or you could just put in the
IP I suppose) and PRINTER is the name of the printer which is expected.
On HP printers, you use "raw" when you're going to send it pre-formatted
output, such as ghostscript or dvilj would produce for you. If you
don't have an HP, check the manual. 

All this said, if the printer doesn't support LPR, then I haven't the
foggiest how you'll talk to it. 

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Re: Mail Archives Stopped?

[David R Baker]

It is a couple of days since my last message, I just looked at
mail archives on www.debian.org and they are still only
through June 11.  I this is a nuisance, say so and I will cheerfully
stop.

Thanks.


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Re: pas16

[David R Baker]

Martien de Groot wrote:
> 
>  I am new to Linux and am currently attempting to install the Debian
> 1.2.17 Linux Distribution.
>  I have successfully written the floppy disks and installed the base
> system. My problem is with the detection of my Pro Audio Spectrum 16
>  SCSI controller (= sound card) and the CDROM drive.

I have a pas16 card and chinon drive, I installed 1.2.10 with no
no special parameters/patches and no scsi cd problems.  I.e I only typed
return to the boot prompt.

Does your hardware work under DOS?

The device file is /dev/scd0 for me.

What kind, including what speed (I don't think the pas16 can go very
fast), of cdrom drive do you have?

If it might help, if you post your IRQ, DMA scsi port number, I
will try to compre with mine.


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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Nathan E Norman]

Isn't there a "reserve=io_address, length" option you can feed the
kernel to protect against autoprobing?  I've had experiences where
another, unrelated driver got to a card first with an autoprobe and
bolloxed everything up.  Seems I used a boot line like "linux
reserve=blah,blah aic7xxx=blah,blah" (or whatever card you're trying to
get to work, I obviously was fighting with an adaptec)

It's been a long time though, and I don't have a man page handy.

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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

:> 
:> Use a standard kernel, like the rescue disk.
:> 
:> At the boot: prompt type
:> 
:> linux fdomain=0x230,11
:> 
:> If I'm wrong about the 'linux' correct me. I can't reboot right now to
:> verify that.
:
:close.  capital L.   But it still didn't work :(  I wonder if the eata
:is somehow interfering.  I have a new kernel compiling, hope it's ready
:soon, without eata.  I'll try again then.  I'm also beginning to suspect
:my floppy has gone bad; i can't mount it, and when i last tired to boot,
:it didn't quite find it.  It doesn't even spin/groan when i try to
:moutn.  There's another 5.25 drive, but this thing's bios won't boot off
:b:, and i don't have any of those old things around, anyway :( But
:if things *really* go bad, there's always the stack of other hd's :)
:
:rick
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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

> 
> Use a standard kernel, like the rescue disk.
> 
> At the boot: prompt type
> 
> linux fdomain=0x230,11
> 
> If I'm wrong about the 'linux' correct me. I can't reboot right now to
> verify that.

close.  capital L.   But it still didn't work :(  I wonder if the eata
is somehow interfering.  I have a new kernel compiling, hope it's ready
soon, without eata.  I'll try again then.  I'm also beginning to suspect
my floppy has gone bad; i can't mount it, and when i last tired to boot,
it didn't quite find it.  It doesn't even spin/groan when i try to
moutn.  There's another 5.25 drive, but this thing's bios won't boot off
b:, and i don't have any of those old things around, anyway :( But
if things *really* go bad, there's always the stack of other hd's :)

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Terminal Display problem

[Matthew Tebbens]

Telnetting into my system I use a program called CRT.
Before rebooting today, everything displayed in full (takeing
up all of CRT's window)

After rebooting, It seems I keep getting pushed back to
80x25. One of the programs that does this is pine. Before
the reboot Pine use to fill the entire window. Now it only
does (what looks to be) 80x25. After exiting pine, everything
stays at 80x25...

It may be trivial but its annoying !!

Matthew


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Re: JDK 1.1

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I thought I saw someone mention a JDK 1.1 package, but I haven't
> managed to find it anywhere.  Was I mistaken?
> 
> Rob.

jdk1.1.1 is in hamm/non-free
You should also take a look at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html

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Re: turning shadow on

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, m* wrote:

> Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> 
> do it!
> 
> just make sure you read the man page on useradd and groupadd!

this means that to add a new user in my system I've to use
'useradd' instead of previous 'adduser', right?  
And that useradd support shadow properly?  Ok! If yes, I got it! 
If no,... 

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JDK 1.1

[Rob Duncan]

I thought I saw someone mention a JDK 1.1 package, but I haven't
managed to find it anywhere.  Was I mistaken?

Rob.


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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[stick]

> > > 
> > I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other
> > hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application
> > could handle the  installation regardless of Hardware and OS.
> 
> Wait:  you've apparently missed the thread that I've been carrying on all 
> day.  The point of the whole idea was to provide a way for people to get 
> information on and install packages.  We discussed the idea that "finding 
> linux software can sometimes be difficult because we didn't know where to 
> look" and the fact that,  while dpkg is a _GREAT_ tool,  it doesn't 
> provide much information and isn't very user-friendly.

Don't know that I missed anything.  The two tools available - dselect and
dpkg - are both good, yet they are both lacking.  Dselect has all of the
information available, but is harder than all-get-out to learn.  Dpkg is
easy to learn but doesn't provide all of the needed information.  On this
I think we all agree.

>   All I'm suggesting is a deselect-like,  x-enabled friendly 
dselect-like, yes.  X-enabled, no.

> neighborhood package finder and installer.  Keep in mind that at this point a
> remote java process (one _NOT_ running on your machine,  but on the ftp server
> or someplace else) CAN'T access your hard drive in a meaningful installation
> way,  as a security precaution.  Locally,  you could run it,  but then you'd
> already have to have X installed.
> 
This is my point.  Make something that *does* run locally, but write it in
a language - any language - that has some flexibility.  If the install
scripts were HTML pages and Java-script (or *whatever*) loaded locally,
then a person with a text-only browser would be able to access Debian.

After X was installed, if that user chose to use a X-enabled browser, 
then Debian would also be available.

I'm not always good at expressing myself in text - what I'm trying to convey
is that *perhaps* Debian should break the User Interface away from the
Debian-specific functionality.

The functionality I'm referring to is:  checking on package availability,
installing/removing/upgrading packages, configuring packages.  (ie. Package
manipulation.)

As an example: there are several Debian packages that are available, but
are not available from any US archive.  If the Debian routines were written
in something like HTML, we could have pointers to the non-US sites.  The
user wouldn't have to know to check multiple sites for a complete installation
of Debian, nor would they have to use multiple access methods to retrieve
the requested packages.  If they selected a package that required PGP or
SSH, then the Debian routines would go and get those packages - from the
non-US mirror.

Help me is I'm missing the point.
Chuck

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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Alair Pereira do Lago]

Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe debian *always* installs LILO in the boot record and uses the
> 'mbr' program to write a new mbr (?? This is from memory - I'm not
> looking at the script)
> 
> I personally never put LILO in the MBR cos OS/2 and Win95 view the MBR
> as their territory ...

Many MSDOS viruses also do it.  I also *prefer* this direction. However, if we
do not have any linux partition as a primary partition in the first HD, lilo
must go to MBR.

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Re: turning shadow on

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> My last experiences on that issue:
> 
> You need to have X installed otherwise shadowconfig on will fail because
> it expects to modify an X configuration file.
> 

I've X but no xdm. Some problems?
Do I need to restart some /etc/init.d?



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Re: aspfilter

[jsa]

> 
> > The error message from the log:
>
> > /usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet2p-letter-auto-mono: file: command not 
> > found
>
>   Did you install the package that contains the file command (its name is 
> file too)?
> >
Installing the Debian package file.x.deb fixed the problem.  Works like
a charm.  This package isn't listed under "depends" for apsfilter in my
packages.gz file, but apparently it is necessary for apsfilter to work.
 
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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Paul Wade]

Use a standard kernel, like the rescue disk.

At the boot: prompt type

linux fdomain=0x230,11

If I'm wrong about the 'linux' correct me. I can't reboot right now to
verify that.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > dir /proc/scsi
> 
> 
> > cat /proc/scsi/aha152x (in my case) give ioport, irq, and a whole bunch of
> > cool techie words.
> 
> bash-2.00# dir /proc/scsi/
> scsi
> bash-2.00# cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
> Attached devices: none
> bash-2.00# dir /proc/scsi/
> scsi
> bash-2.00# cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
> Attached devices: none
> bash-2.00# 
> 
> > If nothing is there, then we need to help it along a bit.
>  
> > The LILO argument is:
>  
> > fdomain=,[,]
> 
> but what do i use for fdomain?  or is fdomain literal?   
> > Does the card have jumpers? Somebody on this list might have docs. In the
> > meantime I am looking for a spec on the www.
> 
> I have port bases & irq's; they're actually labeled by the jumpers
> (0x230,11)
> 
> rick
> 
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Re: Installing

[Phoenix]

The computer is a desktop computer. It has a supermicro
motherboard(pt55st). The keyboard is a microsoft natural keyboard. The
video card is a number nine Image 128 card.
 On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Coby Pritchard wrote:
> > 
> > I am having trouble installing the new version of debian. Iget all the way
> > to the select type color or mono screen. and it stops right there. I don't
> > think it freezes up because the cursor is still blinking. I just cant
> > select anything. Conflict with keyboard?maybe? Any suggestions would be
> > very help full. Thank you.
> 
> Why don't you tell us about the computer you're installing it on. Is
> it a laptop? If so, go into your BIOS and disable power management.
> You may be able to get it to work later.
> 
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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

> dir /proc/scsi


> cat /proc/scsi/aha152x (in my case) give ioport, irq, and a whole bunch of
> cool techie words.

bash-2.00# dir /proc/scsi/
scsi
bash-2.00# cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
Attached devices: none
bash-2.00# dir /proc/scsi/
scsi
bash-2.00# cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
Attached devices: none
bash-2.00# 

> If nothing is there, then we need to help it along a bit.
 
> The LILO argument is:
 
> fdomain=,[,]

but what do i use for fdomain?  or is fdomain literal?   
> Does the card have jumpers? Somebody on this list might have docs. In the
> meantime I am looking for a spec on the www.

I have port bases & irq's; they're actually labeled by the jumpers
(0x230,11)

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mirror question

[Timothy Phan]

Hi,

  I've been running mirror for a few days now and I'd like to know
  
. How can I restart mirror automatically if the mirror stop
  due to timeout or ppp disconnected?

  Thanks!

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Paul Wade]

The first step is to see a host adaptor.

dir /proc/scsi

cat /proc/scsi/aha152x (in my case) give ioport, irq, and a whole bunch of
cool techie words.

If nothing is there, then we need to help it along a bit.

The LILO argument is:

fdomain=,[,]

Does the card have jumpers? Somebody on this list might have docs. In the
meantime I am looking for a spec on the www.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > Looking at the kernel source, I would say try for the future domain first.
> > It should be supported by a standard Debian kernel as a built-in (not
> > modular) driver. Maybe if you're lucky it will autoprobe.
> 
> no such luck :(  
> 
> bash-2.00# mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/ -t iso9660
> mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
>(maybe `insmod driver'?)
> bash-2.00#
> 
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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Oliver Elphick]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes:
  >>   boot=/dev/hda3
  >
  >This should read
  >
  > boot=/dev/hda
  >
  >no?  Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as
  >a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk.
  >This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it
  >back to /dev/hda.
  >
  >Perhaps I'm wrong,
  
I have no problems using this approach; but I just read through the user
documentation again and it does indeed say that when Linux is on a primary
partition on the first hard drive, the boot parameter should be omitted
so that lilo is put in the MBR.  It does not explain why.

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Re: # That's ease :-) how to setup dos ?

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Ave
> 
> As far as I'm concerned the main package
> we need is *fdos*, that should be at
> unstable directory. 
> May be I'm too blind but I didn't found it
> at my CDRom or at ftp.debian.org neither.
> 
> Any suggestion ?
> 
> Thank you
> Samuel
> 
fdos comes with dosemu package, AFAIK.

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# That's ease :-) how to setup dos ?

[Samuel J. MacDowell]

Ave

As far as I'm concerned the main package
we need is *fdos*, that should be at
unstable directory. 
May be I'm too blind but I didn't found it
at my CDRom or at ftp.debian.org neither.

Any suggestion ?

Thank you
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Re: libshadow.a ?

[Scott K. Ellis]

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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Roger Endo wrote:

> Hi,
> Looking for libshadow.a.  Does not seem to be in Debian 1.3 as 
> I checked the Contents file.  It was in the experimental shadow
> package in earlier versions.  Can anybody tell me where it is?

If I'm not mistaken, shadow support is built into both libc5 and libc6,
and there is no need for a libshadow as the functions already are
included.  The shadow support was merges into the default login and passwd
packages.

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

> Looking at the kernel source, I would say try for the future domain first.
> It should be supported by a standard Debian kernel as a built-in (not
> modular) driver. Maybe if you're lucky it will autoprobe.

no such luck :(  

bash-2.00# mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/ -t iso9660
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
   (maybe `insmod driver'?)
bash-2.00#


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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Paul Wade]

Looking at the kernel source, I would say try for the future domain first.
It should be supported by a standard Debian kernel as a built-in (not
modular) driver. Maybe if you're lucky it will autoprobe.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:
> 
> :
> :After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to
> :do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is
> :installed).  However, those aren't the correct adressess.  
> :
> :I actually have three scsi cards sitting here to choose from:
> :
> :1) the nec card, which, on closer look, claims to be a Trantor T160.  I
> :find T1x8 refferences in the howto, but no T160.
> :
> :2) a future domaine 1610, with TMX18XX chip (it really says XX).
> 
> Don't know about either of these :/
> 
> :3) an adaptec 1510, but it has a tiny external connector; we're still
> :trying to find the cable.
> 
> I *do* know about these.  Throw it very, very far.  Adaptec makes great
> (IMHO) controolers these days, but this one sucks (as you can tell from
> the DB25 external connecter, I believe it is)
> 
> I'd try 1) or 2) :)
> 
> Somebody out there has to be using these things ...

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Re: What good is the default .alias file?

[Dave Cinege]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:05:25 -0400 (EDT), Scott K. Ellis wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
>
>> What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel?
>>
>> It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing.
>> If it was in the format:
>>
>> alias lsa="ls -a"
>>
>> it would be useful. How is this any good?
>>
>> alias   a   alias
>> alias   loada   'source ~/.alias'
>> alias   loadalias   loada
>> alias   log watchlog
>
>It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases.  A
>slightly different beast.

Ah.
Next question.why is it not named .csh_alias  ?


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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Peter S Galbraith]

Will Lowe wrote:

>   The point of the whole idea was to provide a way for people to get 
> information on and install packages.  We discussed the idea that "finding 
> linux software can sometimes be difficult because we didn't know where to 
> look" and the fact that,  while dpkg is a _GREAT_ tool,  it doesn't 
> provide much information and isn't very user-friendly.

That's what I initially advanced anyway.

>   All I'm suggesting is a deselect-like,  x-enabled friendly 
> neighborhood package finder and installer.

Right.  I agree.  This is doable and would be very nice to have.
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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

:
:After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to
:do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is
:installed).  However, those aren't the correct adressess.  
:
:I actually have three scsi cards sitting here to choose from:
:
:1) the nec card, which, on closer look, claims to be a Trantor T160.  I
:find T1x8 refferences in the howto, but no T160.
:
:2) a future domaine 1610, with TMX18XX chip (it really says XX).

Don't know about either of these :/

:3) an adaptec 1510, but it has a tiny external connector; we're still
:trying to find the cable.

I *do* know about these.  Throw it very, very far.  Adaptec makes great
(IMHO) controolers these days, but this one sucks (as you can tell from
the DB25 external connecter, I believe it is)

I'd try 1) or 2) :)

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Alex Yukhimets]

> > I was thinking that perhaps this might be a 
> > decent Java application:  you could write essentially the same code to 
> > run locally in your Java-enabled kernel,  and those with web sites that 
> > mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) 
> > to run in Netscape across the net and find/display package info,  so that 
> > you could run the system ON the FTP site ...
> > Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho.
> > 
> > Will
> > 
> I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other
> hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application
> could handle the  installation regardless of Hardware and OS.
> 
> The only Kernel that would *have* to have Java support compiled in would
> be the one on the rescue disks.  The system could install a different kernel
> that would not have JAVA support.

As far as I understand, even JAVA-enabled kernel still needs jdk to be
installed (see JAVA-Linux HOWTO) and this is not acceptable for
installaton disk I guess.

Alex Y.

> 
> What would *really* be nice would be a browser that had more capabilities
> than Lynx - yet still worked on a tty.  Maybe provide FRAME support via
> a UI like that in QuarterDeck's (sp?) Manifest.
> 
> The user with bare-minimum hardware could use Lynx - the user with SVGALIB
> support could use the new browser - someone with X could use Netscape or
> any other X-based browser.
> 
> If all of the Debian Admin tools could be written in JAVA/CGI and put into
> HTML pages, this scenario would be pretty cool!
> 
> Chuck
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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Nathan E Norman]

Depends.  Are you installing the LILO boot block in the MBR or the boot
record of the partition?  If you're not going the MBR route, the hda3
line is correct.

I believe debian *always* installs LILO in the boot record and uses the
'mbr' program to write a new mbr (?? This is from memory - I'm not
looking at the script)

I personally never put LILO in the MBR cos OS/2 and Win95 view the MBR
as their territory ...

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:>   boot=/dev/hda3
:
:This should read
:
:   boot=/dev/hda
:
:no?  Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as
:a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk.
:This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it
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:Perhaps I'm wrong,
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Re: Prob Removing Latex pkg

[Christian Meder]

On Jun 24, Mark Mabry wrote
> 
> I've been upgrading to Debian 1.3 w/o problems except for the tetex
> upgrade.  I've followed the instructions that tell me to first remove
> the tex packages and install the tetex ones.  However, there is a
> problem when I try to remove the latex package.  Apparently the
> latex.prerm script calls install-fmt-base.  Well, I don't have or at
> least cannot locate install-fmt-base.  (*I believe that is the exact
> name.  I'm writing this from memory while at work.)  Does anyone know
> a work-around/fix for this?
> 

Hi,

ugly fix. Edit the prerm script and comment out the offending lines so
that it won't complain anymore.

Greetings,

Christian

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Will Lowe]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > decent Java application:  you could write essentially the same code to 
> > run locally in your Java-enabled kernel,  and those with web sites that 
> > 
> I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other
> hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application
> could handle the  installation regardless of Hardware and OS.

Wait:  you've apparently missed the thread that I've been carrying on all 
day.  The point of the whole idea was to provide a way for people to get 
information on and install packages.  We discussed the idea that "finding 
linux software can sometimes be difficult because we didn't know where to 
look" and the fact that,  while dpkg is a _GREAT_ tool,  it doesn't 
provide much information and isn't very user-friendly.
All I'm suggesting is a deselect-like,  x-enabled friendly 
neighborhood package finder and installer.  Keep in mind that at this point a
remote java process (one _NOT_ running on your machine,  but on the ftp server
or someplace else) CAN'T access your hard drive in a meaningful installation
way,  as a security precaution.  Locally,  you could run it,  but then you'd
already have to have X installed.

Will

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Print to IP

[Greg Vence]

Hello,

How/where could I find info on printing to an IP printer?

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[stick]

> I was thinking that perhaps this might be a 
> decent Java application:  you could write essentially the same code to 
> run locally in your Java-enabled kernel,  and those with web sites that 
> mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) 
> to run in Netscape across the net and find/display package info,  so that 
> you could run the system ON the FTP site ...
>   Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho.
> 
>   Will
> 
I think this is a very good idea - imagine when Debian is ported to other
hardware platforms and (dreaming maybe) other OS's - one JAVA application
could handle the  installation regardless of Hardware and OS.

The only Kernel that would *have* to have Java support compiled in would
be the one on the rescue disks.  The system could install a different kernel
that would not have JAVA support.

What would *really* be nice would be a browser that had more capabilities
than Lynx - yet still worked on a tty.  Maybe provide FRAME support via
a UI like that in QuarterDeck's (sp?) Manifest.

The user with bare-minimum hardware could use Lynx - the user with SVGALIB
support could use the new browser - someone with X could use Netscape or
any other X-based browser.

If all of the Debian Admin tools could be written in JAVA/CGI and put into
HTML pages, this scenario would be pretty cool!

Chuck

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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Bruce Perens]

From: Pete Harlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   boot=/dev/hda3
> 
> This should read
> 
>   boot=/dev/hda

If you do this, you will over-write any boot manager you happen to have
installed on the system.

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more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to
do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is
installed).  However, those aren't the correct adressess.  

I actually have three scsi cards sitting here to choose from:

1) the nec card, which, on closer look, claims to be a Trantor T160.  I
find T1x8 refferences in the howto, but no T160.

2) a future domaine 1610, with TMX18XX chip (it really says XX).

3) an adaptec 1510, but it has a tiny external connector; we're still
trying to find the cable.

I can't figure out how to tell the first two where to look for the
adress of the card.  Also, i'm not clear on which drivers to use for the
first two.

Should I even have eata in my kernel?  

finally, which of these cards will have the best performance.

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Re: Books on Debian

[Marc Saric]

W Paul Mills wrote:

> My start with Debian came about 6 months ago. I found dselect and
> the rest of the packaging system confusing. Frustrating at that time
> was man pages that said they were not up to date - read the docs.
> The doc files also said they were not up to date - read the man pages.
> Now that was very circular and not at all helpful. Someone totally
> new to linux would probably be even more confused. Often those new
> to linux do not even know how to find and view the documentation. A
> book would make a nice security blanket :-)
I think that is a good point -I have started using Debian (after a
unsuccessfull try with an old german S.U.S.E.-distribution) aprox. 1
month ago -there are still many essential thing, which I don´t undertand
and which are not working by now. One of the first problems I solved was
how to get some orientation in the widespread -filesystem tree and how
to use man-pages, HOWTO´s and readme-files.

A good basic book about the concepts of (Debian)-Linux is very helpfull
during the first time -when I am an experienced user, I will maybe
think, that this was useless, but from today´s point of view, I can only
underline what you have said.


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Re: radius

[Paul Wade]

I've got 2 'boxed' systems to develop. One for multiple balanced modems
because the frame relay costs are ugly in Maine. The other for wireless
microwave links. Both are intended to provide Internet to
win/mac/schmuckware workstations.

I am planning to use bootable CD's on these. A motherboard with builtin
IDE and enough RAM to eliminate swapping should be affordable.

The way to develop these is to use an IDE drive with a boot floppy. The
filesystem normally stays read-only except for making configuration
changes. When it's ready, move it to a CD-R with the boot floppy image
added.

I can always put in a flash card for non-volatile storage. The overall
idea is to make it cheap, reliable, and low power so it will run a while
on a UPS. Modular has a nice sound, too.

This may seem like an imitation of Cisco et. al., but a spare ethernet
interface for a Cisco router probably costs more than $18.00 (NE2000).

I think that developing along these lines provides more flexibility in the
long run. Ftp, http, etc. usage patterns change and you don't want to tear
the router/gateway apart because the webmaster demands an upgrade.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:

> In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote:
> > 
> > >> >I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
> > >> >put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
> > >> >term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
> > >> >also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
> > >> >leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.
> > >> 
> > >> This is what we will be working on
> > >> 
> > >> Linux Router Project   www.psychosis.com/linux-router/
> > >
> > >I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive
> > >and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box
> > >too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot
> > >of modems on a 56k line.
> > 
> > Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea.
> 
> True.. thats not what I'm doing though. Like I said, it's a pop..
> everything goes back to the main network.
> 
> > If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy.
> > 
> > router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box.
> 
> Right. But forwardonly DNS and a web *cache* (within limits of the cpu 
> and memory) can run happily on the same box.

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Re: first experience with defrag: have slight problem.

[Bruce Perens]

The C library on the rescue floppy only contains the functions that are
used by the programs on the floppy itself. This is done to save space.
Thus, it's problematical to run programs that weren't on the disk when
it was built.

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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Pete Harlan]

>   boot=/dev/hda3

This should read

boot=/dev/hda

no?  Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as
a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk.
This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it
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Re: turning shadow on

[Christoph Lameter]

My last experiences on that issue:

You need to have X installed otherwise shadowconfig on will fail because
it expects to modify an X configuration file.


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: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

: > Hi,
: > 
: > I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I
: > did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a
: > shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further?
: > 
: > I've installed almost all the stuff from stable.
: > 
: This should work fine. If you have not installed X yet, and intend to, you
: will need to switch it off and then on again after the installation to get
: the correct xdm for shadow. This has been fixed in the 3.3-3 version of X.

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libshadow.a ?

[Roger Endo]

Hi,
Looking for libshadow.a.  Does not seem to be in Debian 1.3 as 
I checked the Contents file.  It was in the experimental shadow
package in earlier versions.  Can anybody tell me where it is?

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Re: Video card not located

[Maarten Boekhold]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Stearley wrote:

> 
> I'm a Debian newbie, but not a Linux newbie.  Upon running my Xserver, it 
> says it "Can't probe screen #0", which the vendor says means the video 
> card is not being located.  I've installed all the X packages.deb.  
> Perhaps I'm missing a driver or something?  I was able to drive this 
> equipment at 24bits 1600x1200 under RedHat linux, but am interested in 
> runing Debian.  Any ideas?  Thx.

Really? let's see: 1600X1200X3 bytes is 576 bytes, is appr. 5.49 Megs,
and that with a 4mb card!

> 
> OSDebian 1.3
> Xserver   Accelerated X v2.1
> video Matrox Millenium (4mb)
> monitor   viewsonic PT810

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Will Lowe]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

> I'm not sure if fvwm95 menu entries calling a simple tk/tcl program to 
> display info on one package is better than a styandalone tk/tcl package
> to provide info on all available packages.  The standalone package
> could be used with any window manager.  
> 
> I just like the idea of Debain shipping with fvwm95 menus filled with 
> entries describing hundreds of packages :-)

Well:
I like the idea of a X-based package information system.  I also 
think it'd be neat if that same information system was capable of doing 
installation;  this is easy enough with a simple script to call dpkg if 
you can work around the dependencies.
I'm not an fvwm95 user,  so naturally I'm not going to push it to 
be tied to that interface.  I was thinking that perhaps this might be a 
decent java application:  you could write essentially the same code to 
run locally in your java-enabled kernel,  and those with web sites that 
mirror debian packages could use the same code (with a few modifications) 
to run in netscape across the net and find/display package info,  so that 
you could run the system ON the ftp site ...
Don't know how excited the sysadmins would be tho.

Will

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Peter S Galbraith]

> >  I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's
> >  available.  I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them
> >  all that's available.
> 
> You mean package-wise? 

Yeah.

> >   What's missing is an X tool to display the
> >  package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file).  I
> >  don't do windows...
> 
> It'd probably be pretty easy to write something basic but useful in 
> tcl/tk,  which is a relatively standard installation.  It has lots of 
> "display this text"-sortof commands.  And it frontends well to most things.

Right.

I'm not sure if fvwm95 menu entries calling a simple tk/tcl program to 
display info on one package is better than a styandalone tk/tcl package
to provide info on all available packages.  The standalone package
could be used with any window manager.  

I just like the idea of Debain shipping with fvwm95 menus filled with 
entries describing hundreds of packages :-)

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weird routing problems.

[Shaya Potter]

I somehow did something that affects route.  I have the simple settings
that the debian installer automatically sets up in my /etc/init.d/network
file.

This ifconfig's the eth0 interface appropriatly, set's up the network, but
when it tries to set the default route, I get.

chum# route add default gw 132.250.89.81
route: eth0_broadcast: cannot use a NETWORK as gateway!
Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [Address_families]  List kernel routing tables
   route {-V|--version}  Display command version and
exit.
   route {-h|--help} [Address_family]Usage Syntax for specified
AF.
   route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ...  Modify routing table for AF.

  Address_families: inet,ddp,ipx,netrom,ax25
specify AF: -A af1,af2..  or  --af1 --af2  or  af_route

however, if I replace the "132.250.89.81" with "pacfw" (what /etc/hosts
says is 132.250.89.81), everything works.

Does anyone have a clue why the ip address doesn't work, but the name I
gave the machine in /etc/hosts does work.

Thanks,

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Re: fvwm2 and the focus

[Rick Macdonald]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Did you know that with the default bindings ALT-clicking
> on a window raises it, while an ALT-right-click lowers it? Perhaps this
> would serve your needs?

I got so used to this on my Linux machine that I set up my Solaris/CDE in
the office with the same bindings.

I'm tempted to junk CDE and install fvwm2...   :-)

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Re: Video card not located

[Will Lowe]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Stearley wrote:

> runing Debian.  Any ideas?  Thx.
> 
The millenium is now supported by XF86.  You might want to try it out ... 
the driver is probably under "unstable" on ftp.debian.org.

Will

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Re: turning shadow on

[Dale Scheetz]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I
> did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a
> shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further?
> 
>   I've installed almost all the stuff from stable.
> 
This should work fine. If you have not installed X yet, and intend to, you
will need to switch it off and then on again after the installation to get
the correct xdm for shadow. This has been fixed in the 3.3-3 version of X.

Luck,

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Re: NFS problems with Debian server and Solaris client

[Markus Diesmann]

I do have similar problems serving SGI machines.
It might depend on the way a file system is mounted
e.g. hard vs. soft, but I'am not sure, still testing ...

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Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Kirk Hilliard wrote:
> 
> > Subject: Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers
> > Kirk Hilliard wrote:
> >
> > How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
> > domain?
> >
> > I am running "Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586)" on my
> > Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
> > After I set "Options/Network Preferences/Proxies" to "Manual Proxy
> > Configuration" and filled in the "SOCKS Host" field it had no problems
> > getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
> > SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
> > because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
> > connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the "No Proxy for" field to
> > the local domain name but this had no effect.
> >
> > "Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1)", similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
> > connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
> > "No Proxy for" field.
> 
> Jens B. Jorgensen replied:
> > If the net you want to be local is, say, 192.168.2.0, (class-C) then
> > in the "No Proxy for" field put '192.168.2.'. Get the idea?
> 
> Jens,
> 
> Thanks, for the help, but I have tried both this (with and without the
> third dot) and putting the full four byte dotted IP address for the
> server in the field, and it connects but still goes through the SOCKS
> host.  Does this actually work for you?  (One way to find out is to
> use a CGI script which prints out $REMOTE_HOST.)  If so, what version
> of netscape are you using?
> 
> I have also tried the symbolic address both for the local net and for
> the server, and all of the above followed by :80 (the port number),
> all to no avail.  Any hints?

Hmmm. Curioser and curioser. When I received this reply I tried to reach
a "local" web server and... it didn't work! I have my socks server
set to *not* forward local-to-local requests, and Netscape *was* 
trying to reach the local server through my socks host. 

Now, it just so happens that at the time I did this test, I was dialed
out to a remote network (I run WinNT 4.0 Svc Pak 1 while working--
unfortunately this is the platform I develop on). But then, if I 
shut down the dial-up connection, then the "No proxy for: 192.168.2."
works just fine. I don't know how this relates to your setup, but
this is clearly a bug.

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Re: fvwm2 and the focus

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Santi Mauro wrote:
>  I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following
> maner :
> 
>  If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the
> active one and raises on the top.
> 
>  I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc
> file in order to have the required behaviour.
> 
>  Can anyone help me ?

I assume you mean "If I click with the mouse on the border of a window".
How would the receiving window know if the click was intended for the
window itself or simply to raise it and grab focus? I'm guess you're
looking for the Windoze-style, where sometimes a click (if it's over
a certain control) seems to just raise/grab-focus and sometimes it does
something more. Did you know that with the default bindings ALT-clicking
on a window raises it, while an ALT-right-click lowers it? Perhaps this
would serve your needs?

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Re: problems with PCMCIA network card 3COM 3C589D

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Nico De Ranter wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having problems attaching my portable to the network from within
> Linux.  It used to work fine with a 3Com Etherlink III 3C589C network card,
> however I just got a new shipment of 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D cards and
> these do not seem to be compatible at all.  Did anybody succeeded in getting
> these cards to function properly?
> 

I use this card and it worked flawlessly with zero (all I did was
install pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules and dhcpcd) configuration.

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Video card not located

[Jon Stearley]

I'm a Debian newbie, but not a Linux newbie.  Upon running my Xserver, it 
says it "Can't probe screen #0", which the vendor says means the video 
card is not being located.  I've installed all the X packages.deb.  
Perhaps I'm missing a driver or something?  I was able to drive this 
equipment at 24bits 1600x1200 under RedHat linux, but am interested in 
runing Debian.  Any ideas?  Thx.

OS  Debian 1.3
Xserver Accelerated X v2.1
video   Matrox Millenium (4mb)
monitor viewsonic PT810

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Re: radius

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote:
> 
> >> >I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
> >> >put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
> >> >term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
> >> >also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
> >> >leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.
> >> 
> >> This is what we will be working on
> >> 
> >> Linux Router Project   www.psychosis.com/linux-router/
> >
> >I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive
> >and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box
> >too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot
> >of modems on a 56k line.
> 
> Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea.

True.. thats not what I'm doing though. Like I said, it's a pop..
everything goes back to the main network.

> If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy.
> 
> router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box.

Right. But forwardonly DNS and a web *cache* (within limits of the cpu 
and memory) can run happily on the same box.

Tim

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first experience with defrag: have slight problem.

[James D. Freels]

I have installed the Debian defrag v 0.61-1 package and tried it out.
My partition table looks like

sda1   /   100 Mb
sda2   /usr400 Mb
sdb1   /var 20 Mb
sdb2   /mnt/sdb2   280 Mb  soft linked, contains /usr/local, /usr/src
sdb3   swap 20 Mb
sdc1   /home  1020 Mb

I have successfully e2defrag on sdc1, sdb2, and sdb1 by booting in
single user mode [at lilo prompt, 'linux single'], and first umount
these partitions.  However, I cannot defrag sda1 nor sda2 since I
cannot umount these first.  I also tried booting with Debian rescue
disk, going into the shell, copying e2defrag onto the ramdisk, and
attempting a defrag of these partitions from there.  defrag will not
run since still does not have everything it needs [probably libc5 ?]

I don't think I really want to defrag the root partition (sda1) anyway
do I?  How could I defrag sda2 (which I would like to do)?

BTW, the program and graphical progress are great.  Reminds me of old
Norton utilities days on DOS!

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Prob Removing Latex pkg

[Mark Mabry]

I've been upgrading to Debian 1.3 w/o problems except for the tetex
upgrade.  I've followed the instructions that tell me to first remove
the tex packages and install the tetex ones.  However, there is a
problem when I try to remove the latex package.  Apparently the
latex.prerm script calls install-fmt-base.  Well, I don't have or at
least cannot locate install-fmt-base.  (*I believe that is the exact
name.  I'm writing this from memory while at work.)  Does anyone know
a work-around/fix for this?

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Re: Books on Debian

[Sudhakar Chandrasekharan]

Paul Wade wrote:
> I also agree. Only a few pages of hardcopy are needed. Consider the
> candidate for a thick 'Complete Debian' type of book:
> 
> 1) His hardware is too strange to get base and a few things installed.
> 
> 2) He has no way to browse a CD.
> 
> 3) He has no way to view web pages.
> 
> 4) He can't send/receive email and use this list.
> 
> 5) He can't print anything.
> 
> He needs hardware, connectivity, or friends more than a book.
> 
> A complete book would be a convenience to me, but I would rather spend the
> money on hardware. I have a lot of 'obsolete' hardware that is still
> productive. I can't say the same for most of the software and books that I
> purchased. If I had spent the money at a good restaurant, I would at least
> have some good memories for it.


I have found that all I needed for Installation and Getting started with
Debian are -

* The Debian Installation instructions printed out
* A book like 'The Linux Bible' which has all the HOWTOs and mini
HOWTOs.

In my case I had only one machine on my desktop and it happened to be
the machine on which I was installing Debian.  So my normal channel for
surfing the web was cut off till I could get my box on net net.  If that
were not the case, one does not need the HOWTOs.

Has anybody tried to convert Matt Welsh to Debian?  If he starts using
Debian I think he will change his excellent 'Installation and Getting
Started' to deal with Debian instead of (shudder) Slackware. ;-)

Sudhakar
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Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?

[Sudhakar Chandrasekharan]

Ed Down wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
> > > I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop.  I have had prior
> > > success installing 1.2 on this same laptop.  I prefer to clean up the
> > > hard-disk and start from scratch.
> > You do?
> >
> > I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have
> > to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian
> > users would say the same thing.
> >
> > I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of
> > Debian's claims to fame?
> 
> Those of us who followed the recommendations of the docs installed 1.1 on
> one partition. I upgraded to 1.2 by just gradually installing all the 1.2
> packages, but now I have realised the error of one partition and I will be
> installing 1.3 from a clean hard disk on to several partitions - with
> /home and /usr/local backed up and reinstalled of course.

The same in my case too.  Ideally, I would like to have seperate
partitions for /, /usr, /usr/local, /home and /root.  One wants to
maintain a clean machine. ;-)

Another thing.  The more installs and re-installs that one does, the
more one learns in the process - IMO.  I have had hours of bliss (and
learning) installing Debian on all kinds of machines.

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NFS problems with Debian server and Solaris client

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

I'm having problems getting Solaris 2.5.1 to use the Debian NFS
server.  Read only file systems work fine.  On read-write file
systems, the Solaris client works fine initially but then gets
confused.  It no longer can create files or directories, is unable to
delete them, doesn't recognize directories as directories, and
complains about the user not being the owner.  ls seems to list them
out properly.

Debian NFS clients seem to work fine.

I've tried a number of mount options without success.

Has anyone used Debian as an NFS server with Solaris? 

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turning shadow on

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I've upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 w/o too much trouble. At that time I
did not turn shadow on. Now I would like to do it. Should I do a
shadowconfig on and cross my fingers or is there something further?

I've installed almost all the stuff from stable.

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Re: Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL

[Rob Browning]

Martin Fehlaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As I have read in Deja News others have (had?) the same problem I do.
> The new Rescue Disk does not work on my (new as well) ThinkPad. Other
> distrubutions do not seem to have this problem. Am I missing something
> obvious? Is there a solution I am not aware of?

You need a different kernel (zImage instead of bzImage) on the rescue
disk.  Debian has to use bzImage kernels in order to accomodate all
the drivers they need, but some ThinkPads can't handle them.

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Re: emacs ispell -- request for bug confirmation

[Rob Browning]

"John M. Rulnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - on a clean Debian 1.3 install, 'dpkg -i ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb'
> followed by 'dpkg -i iamerican_3.1.20-0.1.deb' yields a failed
> iamerican installation:

What kernel are you running?  Did you compile a special one?  We
thought we had tracked this problem to the newest kernels.

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Re: fvwm2 and the focus

[Rick Macdonald]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> >  I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following
> > maner :
> > 
> >  If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the
> > active one and raises on the top.
> > 
> >  I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc
> > file in order to have the required behaviour.
> > 
> >  Can anyone help me ?
> > 

>From the fvwm2 man page:

ClickToFocus  instructs  fvwm  to give the focus to
the window when it  is  clicked  in.   The  default
MouseFocus  (or  its alias FocusFollowsMouse) tells
fvwm to give the window the focus as  soon  as  the
pointer  enters  the  window, and take it away when
the pointer leaves the window.  SloppyFocus is sim-
ilar,  but doesn't give up the focus if the pointer
leaves the window to pass over the root window or a
ClickToFocus  window  (unless you click on it, that
is), which makes it possible to move the mouse  out
of the way without losing focus.


  GlobalOpts [options]
This is a TEMPORARY command used to set some global
options  which will later be handled as Style parms
(or options to Style parms).  It currently  handles
the  following:  SmartPlacementIsReallySmart/Smart-
PlacementIsNormal,  ClickToFocusDoesntPass-
Click/ClickToFocusPassesClick,ClickToFocusDoes-
ntRaise/ClickToFocusRaises,MouseFocusClickDoes-
ntRaise/MouseFocusClickRaises

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Re: Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL

[Bruce Perens]

Boot from the "tecra" boot disk in disks-i386/current/tecra/resc1440.bin
This works on Thinkpads, too.

Thanks

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Re: fvwm2 and the focus

[Dale Scheetz]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Santi Mauro wrote:

> Hi,
>   
>  I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following
> maner :
> 
>  If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the
> active one and raises on the top.
> 
>  I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc
> file in order to have the required behaviour.
> 
>  Can anyone help me ?
> 
I use the olvwm window manager for this very reason. It moves focus only
on a mouse click. In addition to the raise to the top that you request,
you can also change the focus to that window without raising it to the
top. Clicking on the title bar brings the window to the top, but you can
focus on the text portion of the window without bringing it to the top.
This is very useful if you want to enter data in a window but you don't
want it to cover the window you are copying from. 

So, try out olvwm and see if it doesn't do just what you want.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: What good is the default .alias file?

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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

> What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel?
> 
> It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing.
> If it was in the format:
> 
> alias lsa="ls -a"
> 
> it would be useful. How is this any good?
> 
> alias   a   alias
> alias   loada   'source ~/.alias'
> alias   loadalias   loada
> alias   log watchlog

It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases.  A
slightly different beast.

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Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL

[Martin Fehlaber]

As I have read in Deja News others have (had?) the same problem I do.
The new Rescue Disk does not work on my (new as well) ThinkPad. Other
distrubutions do not seem to have this problem. Am I missing something
obvious? Is there a solution I am not aware of?

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problems with PCMCIA network card 3COM 3C589D

[Nico De Ranter]

Hi,

I'm having problems attaching my portable to the network from within
Linux.  It used to work fine with a 3Com Etherlink III 3C589C network card,
however I just got a new shipment of 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D cards and
these do not seem to be compatible at all.  Did anybody succeeded in getting
these cards to function properly?

Any help would be very much apreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Nico.

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Re: radius

[Dave Cinege]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:23:14 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote:

>> >I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
>> >put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
>> >term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
>> >also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
>> >leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.
>> 
>> This is what we will be working on
>> 
>> Linux Router Project   www.psychosis.com/linux-router/
>
>I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive
>and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box
>too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot
>of modems on a 56k line.

Combining your data and terminal server is bad practice and a bad idea.
If you also intend to do all routing from the box you are crazy.

router/terminal server, ok but web/ftp/etc should be in a separate box.



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What good is the default .alias file?

[Dave Cinege]

What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel?

It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing.
If it was in the format:

alias lsa="ls -a"

it would be useful. How is this any good?

alias   a   alias
alias   loada   'source ~/.alias'
alias   loadalias   loada
alias   log watchlog

Maybe I'm just not shell savy enough to know what to do with this.
I mean I could rip it part with cut, tr, etc but that seems a little 
extreme.


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Re: emacs ispell -- request for bug confirmation

[John M. Rulnick]

I'd appreciate if someone could help confirm/deny two possible bugs.
Regarding emacs and ispell (and iamerican) for Debian 1.3: 

- if iamerican is not installed, using ispell under emacs incorrectly
yields an error message indicating that 'ispell -v' does not output
it's version line (this appears to be a bug in ispell.el, but I'd like
to get an independent confirmation before submitting a bug report);

- on a clean Debian 1.3 install, 'dpkg -i ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb'
followed by 'dpkg -i iamerican_3.1.20-0.1.deb' yields a failed
iamerican installation:

  Setting up iamerican (3.1.20-0.1) ...
  Please wait while I search for ispell dictionaries...
  There is only one installed dictionary - american.
  Making american the default ispell dictionary...update-alternatives:
  unable to install /etc/alternatives/ispell-dictionary.hash.dpkg-tmp as
  /etc/alternatives/ispell-dictionary.hash
  dpkg: error processing iamerican (--install):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   iamerican

This appears to be a problem with the postinst script (using
update-alternatives).  Again, I'd appreciate independent confirmation
before I submit any kind of bug report.

Thank you.

John

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Date: 23 Jun 1997 01:04:40 -0400
From: "John M. Rulnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: emacs ispell 
Reply-to: John M. Rulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Using emacs_19.34-11.deb with ispell_3.1.18-11.deb or
ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb, attempting to use any ispell function (for
example, M-$) within emacs, I get the message

  "ispell did not output version line"

and the command fails.  Strange.  So I'd be grateful to anyone who can
clue me in to what's wrong.  I'm running Debian 1.3 and Linux 2.1.43.

Thanks.

John

P.S. Note that 'ispell -v' from the command line yields

  @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 10/10/95
  @(#) Copyright (c), 1983, by Pace Willisson
  @(#) International version Copyright (c) 1987, 1988, 1990-1995,
  [etc.]
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Re: Books on Debian

[W Paul Mills]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:

> My point is, having Debain's book on the shelves of bookshops raises the 
> visibility of Debain and may actually encourage people to choose it over
> other distributions.

Very true. I had heard about linux for some time before first trying
it somewhere back arould kernel version 1.1. A book with a very poor
version of Slackware was my start. The book was actually pretty 
useless. But without the book I would never have had the courage to
try it. I often see people at the local Barnes and Noble requesting
a linux book with a CD. This almost always means they start with
Slackware ( as I did ) or Red Hat on occasion.

My start with Debian came about 6 months ago. I found dselect and
the rest of the packaging system confusing. Frustrating at that time
was man pages that said they were not up to date - read the docs. 
The doc files also said they were not up to date - read the man pages.
Now that was very circular and not at all helpful. Someone totally
new to linux would probably be even more confused. Often those new
to linux do not even know how to find and view the documentation. A
book would make a nice security blanket :-)

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Re: radius

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Dave Cinege, you wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote:
> 
> >In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit 
> >> > radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig 
> >> > off'
> >> > now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played
> >> > with the merit version and shadow?
> >> 
> >> If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for
> >> shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is
> >> necessary because of different Linux shadow methods.
> >
> >I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
> >put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
> >term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
> >also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
> >leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.
> 
> This is what we will be working on
> 
> Linux Router Project   www.psychosis.com/linux-router/

I'm doing a little more that that on the remote end. With a 1 gig drive
and 64mb ram, you can have DNS, and a web cache running on the box
too. Using everything you can to reduce the traffic, you can get a lot
of modems on a 56k line.

Tim

PS: Has anyone gotten the CSO/qi server running under Debian yet?

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Will Lowe]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

> An idea about `menu':
> 
>  I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's
>  available.  I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them
>  all that's available.

You mean package-wise?  Generally I check out www.debian.org,  altho 
certain packages aren't available from there,  such as the pgp ones.  
Maybe it'd be usefull if a search for packages which are known to exist 
but can't or aren't located on master could point us to a mirror which 
has them?

>  Maybe making a menu entry for each package (instead of commands) would 
>  be good enough, or even better if a package hold dozens of realted commands.
> 
>  I don't know if Debian provides enough info to do this in /var/lib/dpkg.
>  My perl or awk skills may be up to the task of extracting the required 
>  info to build the menu.  What's missing is an X tool to display the
>  package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file).  I
>  don't do windows...

It'd probably be pretty easy to write something basic but useful in 
tcl/tk,  which is a relatively standard installation.  It has lots of 
"display this text"-sortof commands.  And it frontends well to most things.


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fvwm2 and the focus

[Santi Mauro]

Hi,
  
 I am using fvwm2 and I want to configure it in the following
maner :

 If I click with the mouse on a window, this window becomes the
active one and raises on the top.

 I didn't manage to write the corrects instructions in my .fvwm2rc
file in order to have the required behaviour.

 Can anyone help me ?

Thank you very much


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Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?

[Emilio Lopes]

> "SC" == Sudhakar Chandrasekharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SC> PS: Does my digital signature attachment bother folks reading this
SC> list.

It's just that sometimes there is more signature than message. Pretty
annoying, IMO.

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Re: radius

[Dave Cinege]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT), Tim Sailer wrote:

>In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:
>> 
>> > Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit 
>> > radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off'
>> > now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played
>> > with the merit version and shadow?
>> 
>> If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for
>> shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is
>> necessary because of different Linux shadow methods.
>
>I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
>put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
>term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
>also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
>leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.

This is what we will be working on

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Re: radius

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:
> 
> > Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit 
> > radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off'
> > now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played
> > with the merit version and shadow?
> 
> If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for
> shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is
> necessary because of different Linux shadow methods.

I haven't played with the source yet. I was hoping not to. I'm trying to
put together an 'instant ISP' type system, complete with a linux based
term server. I use the SDL WAN cards, with the builtin csu, so I'm
also building a 'pop-in-a-box' solution. Get your phone lines, your
leased line, plug this all in and turn it on.

Tim

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Re: Changing the host name

[Nils Rennebarth]

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On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out how to change the hostname manually.  I did the
>> command hostname  ,  and I went into /etc/hosts and replace the
>> old hostname with the new one.  Is it anything other command or file that
>> I need to edit to conpletelly change the hostname??   I also noticed that
>> the login prompt and shell prompt still display the old name.  
>
>/etc/hostname, too . . . and then i think (not sure) you neet a reboot
>or midnight to pass.
What did the trick for me:

1) change /etc/hostname then say
   hostname --file /etc/hostname
2) change IP-address entry in /etc/hosts
3) rerun sendmailconfig
4) change /etc/resolv.conf if domain changed too
5) change /etc/mailname
(Did I forget something?)

No reboot is necessary.

Nils

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Re: radius

[Paul Wade]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:

> Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit 
> radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off'
> now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played
> with the merit version and shadow?

If you compile on a system with the proper include files in place for
shadow will that take care of it? The Livingston 2.0 FAQ says this is
necessary because of different Linux shadow methods.

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Peter S Galbraith]

First, let me thank all those that responded to my `impressions' post.
I'll reply to this one, and leave it at that.

> (I thought Debian's installation asked whether you were really sure about
>  running mke2fs,

It does, it does.  Just a case of initial culture shock.

> >  - I assume that the list of installed packages is in some file.  Is it
> >possible to transfer this file to another PC to instruct Debian to
> >install the same pacakges?  I often install on several PCs and this 
> >would be a nice feature.
> 
> first:~ $ dpkg --get-selections > selections
> other:~ # dpkg --set-selections < selections

This is a very nice feature indeed.

An idea about `menu':

 I think the a frustrating thing with Linux is finding out what's
 available.  I think what would attract people to Linux is *showing* them
 all that's available.

 If actual `commands' available in packges were documented somewhere
 (maybe they are), it would be possible to build a window-manager menu
 where installed commands would be listed (like `menu' does) but also
 include `available but not installed' comamnds.  The menu entries could
 be shaded or have a different colour, and instead of running the command,
 selecting the menu entry would pop up a description along with the
 name of the package that held it (it could even optionally install it!).

 Maybe making a menu entry for each package (instead of commands) would 
 be good enough, or even better if a package hold dozens of realted commands.

 I don't know if Debian provides enough info to do this in /var/lib/dpkg.
 My perl or awk skills may be up to the task of extracting the required 
 info to build the menu.  What's missing is an X tool to display the
 package description from a file (or a part extracted from a file).  I
 don't do windows...
 
 Thoughts?  Is this a good idea?

Another question:  There are many upgrades to make to use a 2.1.X kernels.
   Are there Debian packages to do these upgrades?
   (I have an IDE/ATAPI PD-CD; I need 2.1.X if I ever want
   to see the PD side working.)
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Re: Installing

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Coby Pritchard wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble installing the new version of debian. Iget all the way
> to the select type color or mono screen. and it stops right there. I don't
> think it freezes up because the cursor is still blinking. I just cant
> select anything. Conflict with keyboard?maybe? Any suggestions would be
> very help full. Thank you.

Why don't you tell us about the computer you're installing it on. Is
it a laptop? If so, go into your BIOS and disable power management.
You may be able to get it to work later.

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[no subject]

[Martien de Groot]

 I am new to Linux and am currently attempting to install the Debian
1.2.17 Linux Distribution.
 I have successfully written the floppy disks and installed the base
system. My problem is with the detection of my Pro Audio Spectrum 16
 SCSI controller (= sound card) and the CDROM drive.
 I have used as a bootprompt: "pas16=0x388,irq", with all possible
values for irq filled in.
 Each time I get abortion of commands, e.g. a line which says:
 scsi0: command aborted or: scsi0: disconnected_queue.
 
 In the linux SCSI HOWTO under section 5.15 PAS16 SCSI (Standard) I read

 
> Common Problems:
 
> Command timeouts, aborts, etc.
 
> You should install the NCR5380 patches that I posted to the net some
time 
> ago, which should be integrated into some future alpha release. These 
> patches fix a race condition in earlier NCR5380 driver cores, as well
as
> fixing support for multiple devices on NCR5380 based boards.
 
> If that fails, you should disable the PSEUDO_DMA option by changing
the 
> #define PSEUDO_DMA line in drivers/scsi/pas16.c to #undef PSEUDO_DMA.
 
> Note that the later should be considered a last resort, because there 
> will be a severe performance degradation.
 
 End of quote from SCSCI HOWTO.
 
 My problem is that even if I knew where to find the patch which is 
 mentioned, that I do not have anything installed apart from the base 
 system. The packages like the GNU CC compiler, are still unavailable to

 me, because they are on the CDROM which has not correctly been
detected.
 
 Please help me! 
 I think what I need is for someone who is maintaining the 
 Debian releases, to incorporate the above mentioned patch in the kernel

 or other part of the base system. Then a new floppy image needs to be 
 produced, I don't know whether this would be a new version of the
rescue
 floppy, i.e. file rsc1440.bin, or one of the base floppies. If I can 
 download this new floppy image I will be able to write it to a floppy 
 using rawrite2, and then I can do the installation again, starting with

 the rescue floppy.
 
>From all the information which I have read in my Media Vision Double 
 Fusion LX sound card + cdrom drive manual and the information in the 
 CDROM HOWTO, the bootprompt HOWTO and the SCSI HOWTO, I feel sure that
I
 should use the bootprompt pas16=0x388,irq and not any other of the 
 bootprompts which are described for other controllers and CDROM drives.
 
 I would appreciate it very much if I could hear in the near future that
a 
 new version of one of the floppy images have been produced, which would

 solve the detection of the CDROM.
 
 My next question is: Which of the Device Driver Modules in the 
 installation setup should I  configure? I have so far had no success in

 configuring any of them.
 
 Last question: in the dselect /access step for installing from a CDROM
I
 am asked to mention the block device driver. I have tried all kinds of 
 things, such as /dev/sbpcd0, /dev/sjcd /dev/scd0 etc, but nothing has 
 worked so far. What should I enter here, assuming that my CDROM has
been
 correctly detected through the bootprompt?
 
 I hope I will soon be able to continue the installation of my new
Debian
 Linux distribution!
 
 Yours,
 
 Martien de Groot
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Re: radius

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote:
> 
> I compiled Merit and actually got it to work last year on a non-Debian
> system. It involved a bit of study and doing things manually. I started at
> an ISP that had a Cisco 2516 router and tacacs+ on NT. I switched to 2
> Linux systems on an isolated (coax) ethernet. I was able to get client and
> server working together this way. I had to use netwatch on each end just
> to get the basic communication going.

Well, I've made a bit more progress. The whole problem was that merit 
radiusd has been compiled without shadow support. Doing 'shadowconfig off'
now allows radpwchk to authenticate properly. So.. has anyone played
with the merit version and shadow?

Tim

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Re: Where is libc6 ????????

[Paul Wade]

/hamm/hamm/binary/base

I hope the 'new' menu package came from hamm if it requires libc6.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote:

>  Hi,
> 
> I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new "menu" 
> package r
> equires it and I cannot find it anywhere.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> == Eddie Katz 
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Where is libc6 ????????

[Eddie Katz]

 Hi,

I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new "menu" package r
equires it and I cannot find it anywhere.

Thanks

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Re: radius

[Paul Wade]

I compiled Merit and actually got it to work last year on a non-Debian
system. It involved a bit of study and doing things manually. I started at
an ISP that had a Cisco 2516 router and tacacs+ on NT. I switched to 2
Linux systems on an isolated (coax) ethernet. I was able to get client and
server working together this way. I had to use netwatch on each end just
to get the basic communication going.

I seem to remember wanting to switch to Livingston for some reason, but
the project ended because the 'sysadmin' for the ISP would only work with
NT and he was very affordable. He wouldn't configure the Cisco to set up a
dialup test port.

Unless things have improved a lot, you really need to unpack the source to
get an idea of what radius needs/wants. I remember having the dictionary
messages. Was it a line in passwd/groups and ownership? I wish I
remembered exactly.

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

> >Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear
> >to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking
> >for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in:
> 
> Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version?
> 
> >dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary
> >Did I just miss some config parameter?
> 
> I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to
> work.  I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play
> with it properly yet.

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Re: radius

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Adam Shand, you wrote:
> 
> >Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear
> >to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking
> >for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in:
> 
> Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version?

Right now, Merit. The livingston seemed to run, but would never 
authenticate. The merit version at least has radcheck to see if you
are answering queries..

> >dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary
> >Did I just miss some config parameter?
> 
> I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to
> work.  I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play
> with it properly yet.

Since my email, I've made progress. It seems like you have to include
both the  -d and -g flags when you start up radiusd for it to keep running.
radcheck now at least tells me radiusd is running. It still doesn't
authenticate a known correct userid/passwd combo, but that's another day.

Tim

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Re: radius

[Adam Shand]

>Is anyone actually using the debian radius package? It doesn't appear
>to work in any fashion. It seems like all the binaries are looking
>for /usr/private/etc/raddb/ as in:

Are you using the Merit or Livingstone version?

>dict_init: Couldn't open dictionary: /usr/private/etc/raddb/dictionary
>Did I just miss some config parameter?

I had a play with the Merit version and completely failed to get it to
work.  I wrote it off as my inexperience and haven't had a change to play
with it properly yet.

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Re: nec scsi controller

[Paul Wade]

On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> hmm:
> 
> EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe.
> EATA0: address 0x170 in use, skipping probe.
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.
> 
> something is already getting at it.  The controller does make some kind
> of attempt to boot from the cd, at least sometimes--i get a reference
> when there is no hard disk partition bootable.

1f0 is the standard address for IDE0, 170 for IDE1

If you are not using any IDE drives, maybe you have the interfaces enabled
on the motherboard( if they're builtins) or multi I/O card.

Try disabling them or changing the nec card to another address.

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Re: Big problem with TeX/LaTeX

[Christoph Martin]

Paul Rightley writes:
 > teTeX does seem to install now (and I do not have the TeX environment
 > variables set...  To me, this is not right.  This means that I cannot
 > use dselect to remove the teTeX packages and then reinstall them without
 > executing commands not related to dselect.  Is this a fault with one of
 > the install scripts?  It has apparently bitten several people other
 > then myself.

Please tell me which variables you had to unset so I can add them to
the scripts. The install-scripts unset:
TETEXDIR=
TEXMF=
TEXINPUTS=

C. Martin

 > 
 > Thanks for such a great distribution,
 > 
 > Paul
 > 
 > On 23-Jun-97 Christoph Martin wrote:
 > >Paul Rightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > >
 > >What about TEX specific environment variables as sugested in the
 > >output? Unset all of them for installation.
 > >
 > >Christoph
 > >
 > >> 
 > >> I was wondering if anyone has run into this lately and if it is something
 > >> I am doing wrong...
 > >> 
 > >> I have used the 'new' tetex packages of Debian for some time now.  I was
 > >> recently 'forced' to remove X and tex from my machine temporarily.  Now I
 > >> have X back and running, but am having problems getting the tetex packages
 > >> to install and work.  (I have seen at least one other posting describing
 > >> one of the symptoms I am having.)
 > >> 
 > >> I start with a 'tex-clean' system. Then I do a dpkg -i
 > >tetex-base_0.4pl6-5.deb
 > >> This seems to work fine. Then I do dpkg -i tetex-bin_0.4pl6-8.deb and 
 > >> things
 > >> start going wrong.  When it tries to configure the package, it produces
 > >errors
 > >> like:
 > >> 
 > >> >Please set the environment variable TETEXDIR or TEXMFCNF correctly.
 > >> >For details see the teTeX and the Kpathsea manual
 > >> >kpsetool: language.dat not found.
 > >> >kpsetool: modes.mf not found.
 > >> >kpsetool: texmf.cnf not found.
 > >> >/usr/bin/texconfig: cd: /web2c: No such file or directory
 > >> >Error opening terminal: generic.
 > >> >/usr/bin/texconfig: /tmp/texconf4119/logfile: No such file or directory
 > >> >Output of initex is in /tmp/texconfig.out
 > >> 
 > >> >If you want to change the default settings,
 > >> >use /usr/bin/texconfig to configure teTeX.
 > >> 
 > >> Running /usr/bin/texconfig produces similar errors.  Now, when I go to
 > >> latex something, I get
 > >> 
 > >> >This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1)
 > >> >I can't find the default format file!   
 > >> 
 > >> Which is the symptom reported recently in this mail list.
 > >> 
 > >> What should I do to get a working latex installation?
 > >> 
 > >> Paul


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Re: Books on Debian

[Paul Wade]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:

> David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of
> > Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's
> > published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all
> > the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said before, one really
> > needs to be able to track down and consult documentation in the order
> > 
> >   Debian-specific
> >   Linux-specific
> >   Unix-specific
> > 
> 
> I agree with you entirely on these two points. To people who has
> installed and
> used Debian before, not having a book is no big deal.

I also agree. Only a few pages of hardcopy are needed. Consider the
candidate for a thick 'Complete Debian' type of book:

1) His hardware is too strange to get base and a few things installed.

2) He has no way to browse a CD.

3) He has no way to view web pages.

4) He can't send/receive email and use this list.

5) He can't print anything.

He needs hardware, connectivity, or friends more than a book.

A complete book would be a convenience to me, but I would rather spend the
money on hardware. I have a lot of 'obsolete' hardware that is still
productive. I can't say the same for most of the software and books that I
purchased. If I had spent the money at a good restaurant, I would at least
have some good memories for it.

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Re: nec scsi controller

[Carey Evans]

Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

> EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping probe.
> EATA0: address 0x170 in use, skipping probe.
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.

[snip]

> So how do i clear whatever has its grubby paws on the controller?

cat /proc/ioports (or run lsdev) should give you some idea.  FWIW,
0x1f0 is the PIIX IDE controller on mine.

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Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?

[Ed Down]

On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
> 
> > I am planning on installing Debian 1.3 on my laptop.  I have had prior
> > success installing 1.2 on this same laptop.  I prefer to clean up the
> > hard-disk and start from scratch.
> 
> You do?
> 
> I switched to Debian a year and a half ago in the hopes I would never have
> to do that again! I'm probably safe saying that hundreds of other Debian
> users would say the same thing.
> 
> I'm very curious as to why you would not just upgrade in place; one of
> Debian's claims to fame?

Those of us who followed the recommendations of the docs installed 1.1 on
one partition. I upgraded to 1.2 by just gradually installing all the 1.2
packages, but now I have realised the error of one partition and I will be
installing 1.3 from a clean hard disk on to several partitions - with
/home and /usr/local backed up and reinstalled of course. 

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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3

[Alair Pereira do Lago]

Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >From a guy who has used Linux since 1993 or so, I found the installation
> to be non-trivial:  

...

>  - I didn't really like the interface of dselect.  It's easy to get lost in
>there.  Perhaps changing the background colour according to the context?
>(different background colour during conflict resolution;  this package 
>suggests this other (in blue foreground); this package conflicts
>altogether (in red)).  I know dselect has a terrible complicated job to
>do.  That's why i think it deserved a bit more polish.  After all, it's
>the first reall interaction a user gets with Debian.

There is a project which is working on replacing dselect.

I'd like to suggest you to install/use packages like menu and dwww. You will 
see how
powerful is the distribution.


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Bruce on congress in germany

[Martin Schulze]

Good morning everyone,

  I hope you find your day going well.

  I am organizing a congress in fall, Sept 27th and 28th.  One schedule
  is titled 'New Technologies' and will contain several Linux and Debian
  talks.  We have invited Bruce Perens to talk about Debian GNU/Linux
  there.  Richard Stallman will also hold a talk.  We plan to organize
  some more Debian activities there.  Please check out the web pages.

  If you can afford coming to germany you're invited to participance the
  congress.

  There will be possibilities for pgp signing.  If you want to
  participate in them you're invited to send us your pgp public key
  before leaving for the congress.  Please send the public key to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the `office.' may be left out if the
  alias is set up).

  Here are some additional data:

 Kongress des Individual Network e.V.
September 27 & 28 1997
 Quellenhof, Aachen, Germany
 http://www.individual.net/congress/

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   IN-CA: http://www.in-ca.individual.net/

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Books on Debian

[H.C.Lai]

David Wright wrote:
> 
> Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of
> Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's
> published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all
> the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said before, one really
> needs to be able to track down and consult documentation in the order
> 
>   Debian-specific
>   Linux-specific
>   Unix-specific
> 

I agree with you entirely on these two points. To people who has
installed and
used Debian before, not having a book is no big deal.

But for others who don't have a clue about Debian/Linux, convincing them
that
they don't need a book is not a very straight forward matter. In fact,
some of them
get very nervous on the suggestion that they might not be able to buy
any book on that
particular Linux distribution which they are about to get. I think a
book in cases like
these is more of a symbol for the peace of mind than anything else.

My point is, having Debain's book on the shelves of bookshops raises the 
visibility of Debain and may actually encourage people to choose it over
other distributions.

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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Oliver Elphick]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, w
rites:
  >Hello,
  >
  >This file has been posted to this forum a few times before in earlier
  >versions.  I would very much appreciate feedback on it.  If enough people
  >think it's a good idea, I will attempt to contribute it to the LDP.

  >...

  >// if you want to preserve the asm, linux, and scsi libraries that shipped
  >// with your libc, simply mv them before doing the symlink manipulations
  >// below
  >
  >*) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s asm-i386 asm
  >*) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/asm-i386
  >   asm-i386
  >*) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/linux linux
  >*) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/scsi scsi

If /usr/src/linux is a symbolic link to usr/src/kernel-source.x.yy.zz and
/usr/include/foo is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux/include/foo you
will not need to change anything in /usr/include - it will follow the
links automatically.
 
  >...

  >*) if you use lilo, check /etc/lilo.conf for correct parameters (esp.
  >   things like "linear")

Leave your old kernel on the disk and make a pointer to it in /etc/lilo.conf:

  boot=/dev/hda3
  default=Linux
  compact
  install=/boot/boot.b
  map=/boot/map
  vga=normal
  delay=20
  # Current kernel
  image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
append="mem=32M"
  # Previous working kernel
  image=/vmlinuz.old
root=/dev/hda3
label=old
read-only
append="mem=32M

then you can reboot your old version without resorting to a rescue disk by
interrupting the lilo boot sequence with the control key before the 20
second delay (delay=20) expires and entering 'old' as the kernel to boot.

  >...

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lockd for debian ?

[Markus Diesmann]

I need to export a mail directory from a Debian system to
SGI and SUN machines. 
A few applications expect a lock daemon lockd on the exporting
system. I seems that there is no such daemon for debian,

We found an old Linux version 0.4 '95 from Olaf Kirch, but it
does not seem to work reliable.

Does anybody have a lockd for Debian ?

Thanks,

Markus Diesmann


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