Re: Anybody in for helping a new debian user with aic7xxx ?

1997-08-27 Thread Stephan Pfab


Dieter Rohlfing wrote
The 2 PCs are SCSI-only systems, HDs and CDROM are SCSI-2. Here are the
main hardware components:

Hi

May be this is a hint.
I am trying to install Debian 1.3.1 on a SCSI only system right now.
For me only booting from the cd-rom doesn't work.
(LDLoadlin ... something and then halt).
But from DOS it worked.

During boot I get some messages I never saw with other kernels.
Wild interupts and after the successfull recognition of my
Adaptec (2920 ?) aic7850 it complain about 
failed initialization WD7000 SCSI chip ???

Sorry I have to get home to be more precise.

Is there somebody else with problems on a SCSI only system ?

Stephan


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Green monitor functions

1997-08-27 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 
 You may need the line:
 
 Option power_saver
 
 in Section Device in your /etc/X11/XF86Config file.

In fact, you can configure the whole thing in /etc/XF86Config.

Some lines from mine are:

Section Screen
Driver  accel
Device  S3_868
BlankTime   15
SuspendTime 20
OffTime 30

Seen 'man XF86Config' for details.

Remco



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: ide for java?

1997-08-27 Thread Jim Pick

 hi is there any Java IDE interface to Linux?
 
 warnning: I'm loocking for an IDE diferent as JAVA WORKSHOP.

You might try Vibe from Visix (www.visix.com).  I've never tried it, but
it is available for Linux.

There is also the FreeBuilder project:

http://www.techno-link.com/clients/ivo/FreeBuilder

But it's early on in development, and not all that useable yet (I think).

Some people might consider emacs an IDE, but it's probably not what
you want.

If you plan on doing Java development inside an IDE, there is a much
better selection available on Windows 95/NT.  Big players like
Microsoft, Borland and Symantec are content to ignore Linux.

Java hasn't really lived up to the cross-platform hype as far as 
IDE's are concerned.

Cheers,

 - Jim




pgpJNcc73zDQ5.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: ide for java?

1997-08-27 Thread Dave Cinege
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:28:37 -0700, Jim Pick wrote:


 hi is there any Java IDE interface to Linux?
 
 warnning: I'm loocking for an IDE diferent as JAVA WORKSHOP.

You might try Vibe from Visix (www.visix.com).  I've never tried it, but
it is available for Linux.

There is also the FreeBuilder project:

http://www.techno-link.com/clients/ivo/FreeBuilder

But it's early on in development, and not all that useable yet (I think).

Some people might consider emacs an IDE, but it's probably not what
you want.

If you plan on doing Java development inside an IDE, there is a much
better selection available on Windows 95/NT.  Big players like
Microsoft, Borland and Symantec are content to ignore Linux.

Java hasn't really lived up to the cross-platform hype as far as 
IDE's are concerned.

I've seen some nice one's (including GUI builders) but nothing (when I tried 
it) that 
was really complete.

Gamelan has loads of stuff:
http://java.developer.com/

I remember this one as being really nice, but not quite 'done'. (But that was 
months 
ago)
http://www.xelfi.cz/
-
http://www.psychosis.com/emc/   Elite MicroComputers   908-541-4214
http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/  Linux Router Project


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Problem creating custom kernel image

1997-08-27 Thread Steve Mayer
Hi,

  I've only been using Debian 1.3.1 for a short while now and have run up
against a problem that I'm not sure what to do about.

  When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle of the
'make config', right at the point that make splits off and tries to set up
the configuration script for the sound card, and I get 4 parse errors in
/usr/include/stdlib.h.

  I am not a C programmer by any means, and looking at the code did not help
much.
 
  Are there known issues about this?  I have installed the libc6 runtimes,
but all else should be libc5 as far as I know,

  Previously I had to edit two other .h files to reference the proper
location of stddef.h being in /usr/include/linux rather than /usr/include.

Any help would be appreciated. Never ran into a problem like this in my
four years of running Slackware.

Thanks,

Steve Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer.

Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
before the i2o group removed it from the server.

As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever
might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard,
we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. 

Thanks

Bruce
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Green monitor functions

1997-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 In fact, you can configure the whole thing in /etc/XF86Config.
 
 Some lines from mine are:
 
 Section Screen
 Driver  accel
 Device  S3_868
 BlankTime   15
 SuspendTime 20
 OffTime 30

What exactly is the difference between suspend and standby modes?

-- 
see shy jo


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Green monitor functions

1997-08-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
  In fact, you can configure the whole thing in /etc/XF86Config.
  
  Some lines from mine are:
  
  Section Screen
  Driver  accel
  Device  S3_868
  BlankTime   15
  SuspendTime 20
  OffTime 30
 
 What exactly is the difference between suspend and standby modes?

StatusPower Restore
On100%  N/A
Standby   80%  1-2 seconds
Suspend   25 watts 1-2 seconds
Off   5 watts   20 seconds

I think on alot of screens they are the same..

Jason


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


ftp status under dselect

1997-08-27 Thread Bob
Is there any way to have dselect show a status during the ftp of selected
files?  Something similar to the status indicator that ncftp uses would be
nice.

Bob



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Sony StorStation (Ditto 2Gb)

1997-08-27 Thread Ralph Winslow
I've just procured the above tape drive and installed it on my parallel
port.  I also rebuilt my kernel to support tape (I think).  Now what? 
What package can I use to back up my system?  TIA
-- 
-
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The IQ of the group is that of the member
whose IQ is lowest  divided by the number
of members.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Kevin Traas
i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer.

Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
before the i2o group removed it from the server.

As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever
might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard,
we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it.

grin

Wonder how many of them said  DOH and slapped their forehead in a most
Homer-like fashion?

Later,

Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (604) 882-8169



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread john
Bruce Perens writes:
 Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
 someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
 (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server.
 ...
 As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever
 might have had.

I just read everything on the I2O site, including the Initiative
Agreement.  While they require that the standard itself be kept secret,
I see nothing that would prohibit the publication of a driver with source.

 Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard, we now know all
 of what we need to know to write device drivers for it.

They can't make major changes: there are already products in the pipeline.
Minor changes should be easy to reverse-engineer, given the current
document.

If I2O becomes a truly public standard, I think it will be big plus for
free software.

Anyone heard any rumors about where to find a copy of the standard?
-- 
John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Do with it what you will.
Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread john
Kevin Traas writes:
 Wonder how many of them said DOH and slapped their forehead in a most
 Homer-like fashion?

I wonder if it was truly a mistake.
-- 
John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Do with it what you will.
Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: q-mail: setup problem

1997-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Package: qmail
Version: 1.00-2

I'm filing a bug on this.

dada wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I just installed qmail in my system to replace smail.
 
 When the configurarion script runs, here is that it return me:
 
 **
 
 qmailconfig
 Your hostname is antinoo
 --here the script stop for a while--
 soft error
 Sorry,I couldn't find your host's name in DNS
 You will have to set up control/me yourself
 
 
 
 I understand that the problem is that I have my bind pakage in bad setup
 (sorry, I don't know set up it. I answer the questions that scripts
 setup ask me, but I don't now do anymore), but I don't understand that
 is the last line: You will have to set up control/me yourself.

Yes, I think this is a bug. It should refer to /etc/qmail/me . If you edit
that file and place your hostname in it, qmail will probably work ok.

 what can i solve this problem?
 
 I seek answer in usr/doc/qmail, but I don't find it :-) (I'm novice).
 
 
 Please,help
 
 Thanks


-- 
see shy jo


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return

1997-08-27 Thread Michael Rokicki
 
 I'm running a 386DX-40 but for some reason it's being listed as an i586 
 on start-up.  Any reason I shouldn't continue to ignore this until I get 
 to understand the OS better?

*It's probably OK. Send me the contents of /proc/cpuinfo. Is your chip from
*Intel?

processor   : 0
cpu : 386
model   : unknown
vendor_id   : unknown
stepping: unknown
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
fpu : no
fpu_exception   : no
cpuid   : no
wp  : no
flags   :
bogomips: 7.96

That's interesting, my environment has HOSTTYPE=i586.  It's an AMD chip.
 
  
 Is there a small deb package, I only have a few Mbytes to 
 spare, you'd recommen to bridge over from what I've picked up in ms-dos?  

*I don't really think so. There is a file manager that looks like Norton
*Commander, but there isn't a good fake DOS environment.

I didn't make myself clear, for example: in ms-dos I used debug to put 
together the utility needed to turn my cursor back on. It's that type of 
knowledge I want to bridge over.  I'm looking for a Debian programming
package that's both compact in size and has good basic doc's to groove me
in to doing things in Linux/Unix.


 I see from the mailing list you hold some position Debian scheme of things, 
 what is it?

*I'm the project leader. The big cheese, I guess.

I think you guys are doing a great job!  It's incredible being able to dl
Debian and get it running so easily.  

Thanks for your help in getting through the initial confusion.

Michael


--
Michael Rokicki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Can't get apache to start using my files

1997-08-27 Thread jim
Using apache 1.1.3-6.

The apache httpd is currently installed and running on my system (kernel
2.0.30).  However, only the default files will show up.
No matter what I do, I can't get apache to serve my files.  The
documentation which comes with the distribution pops up when you
point your web browser to your own machine.  This documentation states
that the default document root is set to /home/www-data/webspace.
This is in error.  No such directory was created by the installation
process.

I then created this directory and populated it with files including
index.html.  The directory structure below
/home/www-data was chowned to user www-data group root.  This has no
effect.  So, after trying a number of obvious things,
I'm hoping that someone can tell me the secret to working this
distribution.

And more broadly speaking, it seems that the documentation actually
needed to run apache was not included in the distribution.
I'm still wading through the apache site for information, but, it
appears that this distribution is different in many ways than
the default apache distribution.  I'm really disappointed in this
package maintainer's idea of user friendly.  It's one thing to save time

during installation and another thing to waste scads of time during
setup when all the information you need just isn't there and the
package doesn't behave as advertized.  I would like to keep this package
just to maintain debian compatability, however, I bet
I could compile and setup apache from scratch faster than pluggin around
with this package.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Knews

1997-08-27 Thread Shaleh
Thanks to everyone who suggested knews.  It is a very nice X based news
reader.  I had a little trouble with the install though.  Seemed dselect
wanted to write in /etc/news -- that did not exist and it would not
create it.  Kept bombing out.  So I created /etc/news and everything is
happy.  Almost... How can I expand only the text of the news messages. 
I run X in 640x480 until my new monitor comes in and the default message
space shows about 4 or 5 lines.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


reading mail locally

1997-08-27 Thread Will Lowe
Ok,  again,  now that I'm back at school,  I'd like to have all my
email/news reading be local,  on my debian box,  rather than on the
central servers.  I can forward mail via .forward or .maildelivery (on two
different systems).  

The problem is this:  my machine is (unfortunately) still running Win95 on
(rare) occaisions,  and is also prone to the power outages caused by the
microwaves of the other residents.  In essence,  I need a way for my
machine to receive mail when booted to debian,  but not have that mail
get lost if the system is down (which,  over breaks,  etc.,  can mean a
week or more of downtime).  I've thought of two solutions,  but maybe
someone else has another way.

Solutions:

1)  Forward mail to my machine (rivendell) by forwarding it all to one of
my remote accounts,  and setting up a system that,  when rivendell boots,
logs onto the remote account and replaces the .maildelivery with one that
forwards mail to rivendell,  reinstating the original .maildelivery when
rivendell goes to shutdown.

2) Set up a cron-driven sort of thing that (every five minutes,  or
whatever) rcp's my /var/spool/mail/~user file from each of several hosts,
appending them all to /var/spool/mail/harpo on rivendell.

Any suggestions,  comments,  or other thoughts?  Is there a package to do
this automagically?

Will

---
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/
  For PGP Public Key,  visit my website.
---


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Michael Rokicki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 processor : 0
 cpu   : 386
 model : unknown
 vendor_id : unknown
 stepping  : unknown
 fdiv_bug  : no
 hlt_bug   : no
 fpu   : no
 fpu_exception : no
 cpuid : no
 wp: no
 flags :
 bogomips  : 7.96

It's pretty clear the kernel knows what CPU it is.

 my environment has HOSTTYPE=i586.  It's an AMD chip.

Tell me what the output of the arch command is, please.

 I didn't make myself clear, for example: in ms-dos I used debug to put 
 together the utility needed to turn my cursor back on.

Oh. It's slightly harder under Linux because the system is in protected mode.
Can you tell me exactly what you type into debug?

Thanks

Bruce
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Applixware

1997-08-27 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:  Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian?  How is it?  The install
:  difficult? Is it worth buying?  I want to migrate away from msoffice and
:  use linux exclusively if possible.  Thanks
:  
: 
: Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together
: with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if
: you use it in a non-commercial purpose.
: 
: Check it out at:
: http://www.stardiv.de/
: 
: I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If
: I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd.

I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it
is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of
lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've
forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very
nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything
into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only
had 15MB free

I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't
ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere
in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ...
as I said, don't ask :)

Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is
happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these
days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In
my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;)

-- 
-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.1
GCS d-(++) s+:- a-- C++$ UL+++()$ P-(---) L++(+++)+++$ !E---
W+(--)-- N+(++) o+++ K- !w--- !O- !M- !V- PS+ PE Y(+) PGP t 5 !X
!R tv-(--)! b++() DI+(+) D++(---) G+ e++ h++ !r+++ y?
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


depmod -a problem

1997-08-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

I just used kernel-package to build kernel-image-2.0.29 and then used dpkg
to install it.  None of the modules now auto-loads and depmod -a returns

gum# depmod -av | less
modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory
TYPE /lib/modules/boot
TYPE /lib/modules/2.0.29/fs
  etc etc

Anyone?

Lindsay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832  32S, 116E
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just read everything on the I2O site, including the Initiative
 Agreement.  While they require that the standard itself be kept secret,
 I see nothing that would prohibit the publication of a driver with source.

Just their non-disclosure agreement.

 Anyone heard any rumors about where to find a copy of the standard?

I'm sure you'll hear from someone who has a copy.

Bruce
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: depmod -a problem

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
Didn't the format of /etc/conf.modules change?

Bruce
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


bash

1997-08-27 Thread Matthew C. Thompson
hello,

i downloaded the bash 2.01 source from /gnu and did a ./configure and
make. i then attempted make install, and received the following:

mattyt# make install
mkdir /usr/local/info
/usr/bin/install -c bash /usr/local/bin/bash
/usr/bin/install -c bashbug /usr/local/bin/bashbug
( cd ./doc ; make  \
man1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 man1ext=1 \
man3dir=/usr/local/man/man3 man3ext=3 \
infodir=/usr/local/info install )
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/bash-2.01/doc'
test -d /usr/local/man/man1 || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs
/usr/local/man/man1
test -d /usr/local/man/man3 || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs
/usr/local/man/man3
test -d /usr/local/info || /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs /usr/local/info
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bash.1 /usr/local/man/man1/bash.1
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bashbug.1 /usr/local/man/man1/bashbug.1
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./bashref.info /usr/local/info/bash.info
if /bin/sh -c 'install-info --version' /dev/null 21; then \
install-info --dir-file=/usr/local/info/dir
/usr/local/info/bash.info; \
else true; fi
install-info: unknown option `--dir-file=/usr/local/info/dir'
usage: install-info [--version] [--help] [--debug] [--maxwidth=nnn]
 [--section regexp title] [--infodir=xxx] [--align=nnn]
 [--calign=nnn] [--quiet] [--menuentry=xxx] [--keep-old]
 [--description=xxx] [--test] [--remove] [--] filename
make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/bash-2.01/doc'
make: [install] Error 2 (ignored)

???

thanks,
matty

Matt Thompson 
MZI, Inc.   v-206.430.3726
707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
Renton, WA  98055   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: depmod -a problem

1997-08-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

Hi Bruce,


On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Didn't the format of /etc/conf.modules change?
 
   Bruce
 -- 

Hmmm, not to my knowledge.  Using modutils_2.1.34-5a and tried 2.1.34-5
before that.  /etc/conf.modules is substantially the same as the one on my
hamm box.  Think I'll make a kernel-source-29-deb and let it install
itself. 

Thanks,
Lindsay

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832  32S, 116E
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: bash

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
Change the --dir-file flag to --infodir . GNU's install-info has diverged
from ours.

Bruce
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Article on Linux and non-official dist.

1997-08-27 Thread Keith Beattie
Hi all,

I'm in the process of writing an article about installing Linux (using
Debian) and hope to have a compatible mini Debian distribution on the
CD that comes with the magazine.  I've looked, but can't seem to find
info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions.

This isn't a review, it's a how-to article. I'm hoping that this will
give Linux, Debain and the concept a freely available software some
good exposure, so I'd appreciate any help on getting this to go
smoothly.  (It's my first article and plan to make a donation to the
cause afterwards once they pay me.)

Thanks,
Keith


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: depmod -a problem

1997-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

This is a problem with the newer versions of depmod and
 friends throwing a hissy fit over non .o files under
 /lib/modules/2.0.29/. Older versions did not have a problem, so older
 versions of kernel package left text files in /lib/modules/* as
 documentation (actually, this reflected what older kernel makefiles
 did).

Since the change in behaviour of depmod, newer versions of
 kernel-package do not leave .o files in /lib/modules. 

To clean up, do 
 % find /lib/modules/2.0.29 -type f | xargs file| grep -v 'ELF 32-bit'
/lib/modules/2.0.29/modules.dep:  ASCII text

 Any other file that shows up except for modules.dep should be
 removed. 

Upgrade your version of kernel-package if possible.

manoj

-- 
 When an error has been detected and corrected, it will be found to
 have been correct in the first place.
Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Problem creating custom kernel image

1997-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Steve == Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle
Steve of the 'make config', right at the point that make splits off
Steve and tries to set up the configuration script for the sound
Steve card, and I get 4 parse errors in /usr/include/stdlib.h.

The error messages should help us help you. As would the
 output of :
 % dpkg -l libc5 libc6 gcc libc5-dev binutils make bin86 gawk gzip \
   shellutils grep cpp

These are all the packages that the kernel build process
 should depend on. It is difficult to say what is wrong based on the
 information available.

manoj
-- 
 OF Auxiliary, Mixed, and National Arms The second sort of
 unprofitable arms are auxiliaries, by whom I mean, troops brought to
 help and protect you by a potentate whom you summon to your aid;
 Auxiliaries may be excellent and useful soldiers for themselves, but
 are always hurtful to him who calls them in; for if they are
 defeated, he is undone, if victorious, he becomes their prisoner.
 . . . from Chapter XIII, _The Prince_, by Niccolo Machiavelli, 1513
Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: bash

1997-08-27 Thread Matthew C. Thompson
sorry, bruce, but i have no programming experience. i grep'd all the files
but couldn't find --dir-file anywhere. where do i change it?

thanks,
matty

Matt well, i know a heck of a lot more that i used to... Thompson 
MZI, Inc.   v-206.430.3726
707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
Renton, WA  98055   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Change the --dir-file flag to --infodir . GNU's install-info has diverged
 from ours.
 
   Bruce
 -- 
 Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
 Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
 Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502
 
 


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


CDROM death

1997-08-27 Thread Carl Flippin
Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux, 
the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16 
and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the 
drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this 
problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive?


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Article on Linux and non-official dist.

1997-08-27 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Keith Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've looked, but can't seem to find
 info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions.

It's fine with us. In fact, you can duplicate the Official Debian 1.3.1
2-CD Set if you want - we put the ISO 9660 master CD images online at the
sites listed at the end of this message, just make a label and press 'em.
We don't ask for any money for this. 

If you prefer to make your own CD, install the boot-floppies package
and the debian-cd package. Then talk to me, I'm one of the experts on
making Debian CDs and I want to make sure your CD doesn't have any
common mistakes that would make us look bad. Make sure your CD is
bootable, make sure it installs pppd and man, make sure people can
get to our FTP sites and get the rest of the system.

Thanks

Bruce

These are FTP sites where you can currently find the Debian GNU/Linux
Official 2-CD Set. To add a site, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

U.S.: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/distributions/debian/OfficialCDH. 
Peter Anvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

U.S.: ftp://ftp.debian.org/OfficialCD Greg Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Germany: ftp.uni-erlangen.de:/pub/Linux/Official-Debian-CDs Roman Hodek [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] also NFS-mountable (read-only) as 
/public/pub/Linux/Official-Debian-CDs

U.K.: 
ftp://ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk/computing/operating-systems/Linux/debian/OfficialCD Lee 
McLoughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hungary: ftp://silver.drk.hu/pub/debian_cd/ Robert Nemkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Japan: ftp://ftp.kc.chuo-u.ac.jp/pub/Linux/OfficialCD/ Atsushi KAMOSHIDA 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it?
Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html
Bruce Perens K6BP   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   510-215-3502


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: depmod -a problem

1997-08-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

Hi Manoj,

Take a bow.  That fixed it.

I remembered reading about this and had deleted all the text files in
/lib/modules/2.0.29 thinking that they were the problem.  Now I will have
to put them back!

Your help appreciated.  
Lindsay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832  32S, 116E
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On 27 Aug 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 Hi,
 
   This is a problem with the newer versions of depmod and
  friends throwing a hissy fit over non .o files under
  /lib/modules/2.0.29/. Older versions did not have a problem, so older
  versions of kernel package left text files in /lib/modules/* as
  documentation (actually, this reflected what older kernel makefiles
  did).
 
   Since the change in behaviour of depmod, newer versions of
  kernel-package do not leave .o files in /lib/modules. 
 
   To clean up, do 
  % find /lib/modules/2.0.29 -type f | xargs file| grep -v 'ELF 32-bit'
 /lib/modules/2.0.29/modules.dep:  ASCII text
 
  Any other file that shows up except for modules.dep should be
  removed. 
 
   Upgrade your version of kernel-package if possible.
 
   manoj
 
 -- 
  When an error has been detected and corrected, it will be found to
  have been correct in the first place.
 Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
 


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: StarOffice installation

1997-08-27 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Steigerwald writes:

 I managed to install StarOffice via its own installation routine, but
 not via the Debian installer package.
 
 If I try dpkg-i-ing the installer packages it fails to find the
 StarOffice *.tar.gz files. But this files are in the same directory I
 started the installation from.

They have to be in ${TMP:-/tmp}

 Where do I have to put the archive files if not in the active
 directory? Should I put them into /tmp? If yes, can I remap /tmp to
 another already existing partition? /tmp is laying on a 50MB root
 partition which is maybe 50% full and doesnt have enough space to hold
 all the needed archives.

I normally have /tmp - /var/tmp

But you can set TMP to an appropriate value, the installer will honor
this.

 I use the static linked StarOffice binaries. Is there any way to use
 the dynamic linked one other than buying Motif?

They are linked against Motif you you'll need Motif - Lesstif might
work, too but I haven't tried.

 Is there any way to speed up starting of StarOffice application
 without plugging more memory into the computer? I am using a 486 and
 16 MB of RAM. Hopefully I will get another 16 MB, but God knows when.
 That might stop swapping.

To be honest, I won't run StarOffice on that machine.  You'll have
more fun playing and learning LaTeX if you need typesetting.  LaTeX
will run on your computer without memory and speed problem.

Regards

Joey

--
  / Martin Schulze  *  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *  26129 Oldenburg /
 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /
/verursacht durch kaputte Gatesoftware auf der CyberBox /


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Knews

1997-08-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
  Thanks to everyone who suggested knews
  How can I expand only the text of the news messages. 
  I run X in 640x480 until my new monitor comes in and the default message
  space shows about 4 or 5 lines.
  

You can separate the text and article list into two windows:

  $knews -nntpServer localhost +separate



-- 
Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isle of Wight  http://lfix.co.uk/oliver

 Make it idiot-proof, and someone will breed a better idiot.



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Can't get apache to start using my files

1997-08-27 Thread Martin Schulze
jim writes:

I also have encountered this problem and reported it as a bug.
It took me quite some time finding out what exactly the problem
is.  I'll send you my /etc/init.d/2nd-apache from another machine.

The problem is that apache strarts, fork()s, does something,
then a) reading its config and b) reading its configs from /etc/apache
independent if you specify -f config or -d directory.  Sorry but
Apache really suxx.  (Hi netgod..)

 point your web browser to your own machine.  This documentation states
 that the default document root is set to /home/www-data/webspace.
 This is in error.  No such directory was created by the installation
 process.

Please report this as a bug.

 I then created this directory and populated it with files including
 index.html.  The directory structure below
 /home/www-data was chowned to user www-data group root.  This has no
 effect.  So, after trying a number of obvious things,
 I'm hoping that someone can tell me the secret to working this
 distribution.

The correct location is /var/www

 And more broadly speaking, it seems that the documentation actually
 needed to run apache was not included in the distribution.

There is a apache-doc package containing the documentation.  It has
grown so large that it makes more sense creating second package out
of them.

 I'm still wading through the apache site for information, but, it
 appears that this distribution is different in many ways than
 the default apache distribution.  I'm really disappointed in this
 package maintainer's idea of user friendly.  It's one thing to save time

Please correspond to him directly, either on irc.debian.org #Debian
or via mail e.g. through [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Keep your head up,

Joey

-- 
  / Martin Schulze  *  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *  26129 Oldenburg /
 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /
/verursacht durch kaputte Gatesoftware auf der CyberBox /


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: ipfwadm question

1997-08-27 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

   My linux box acts as a ip-masq for the internal sub-net of
 Windows machines. It has 3 cards: one for output to Internet, with a
 valid IP address and 2 for the internal sub-net.
   IP-Masq is working OK; all machines can telnet, browse, ftp, etc
 to external servers on Internet, being masquerade with the Linux IP.
   I'm using this sintax:
 # ipfwadm -O -a deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D some.site.denied/0
 
 but isn't working, since I can connect the denied site from a inside
 machine. What is wrong? 

Have you tried:

# ipfwadm -F -p deny
# ipfwadm -F -a masq -S internal_net -D 0.0.0.0/0
# ipfwadm -F -i deny -S internal_net -D some.site.denied/32
(that is adding a forwarding rule before masquerading)


Ciao

--
Dalla Silvestra Michele  Other info: finger://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Key fingerprint = 68 02 A9 C7 FB 05 9E 9C  C7 B6 4A 13 61 25 5B 43


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: xdm and getting to the console..

1997-08-27 Thread Bengt-Ove Johansson
On Wed, Aug 20, 1997 at 10:44:31AM -0700, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Marc W. Brooks wrote:
 
  At 01:09 PM 8/20/97 -0400, Paul wrote:
  hi, x runs on console #7 you can go controlalt1 through6 to get to
  a regular  prompt.
  hope this helps.
  Paul
  
  Thanks, I guess what I was really wondering is whether I can actually
  shutdown X and sit at the console.
 
 After shifting to the console on F1, as root, you may type
 /etc/init.d/xdm stop.  This will shut down xdm.  To restart it later,
 you can use /etc/init.d/xdm start.
 
 Syrus.
 

Try pressing ctrl-R when looking at the XDM login screen. That should make
XDM exit. Then type /etc/init.d/xdm start as root to restart it.

Regards,
Bengt-Ove!


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: bash

1997-08-27 Thread joost witteveen
 hello,
 
 i downloaded the bash 2.01 source from /gnu and did a ./configure and
 make. i then attempted make install, and received the following:

Maybe just doing debian/rules build will do the trick?
The debian maintainer may have done all kinds of things to
make bash build on Debian, and you are not using them now.


-- 
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
#what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Ted Harding
( Re Message From: Bruce Perens )
 
 i2o seems to be not so much of a threat any longer.
 
 Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
 someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
 (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
 the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
 before the i2o group removed it from the server.
 
 As far as I can tell, they have blown any non-disclosure case they ever
 might have had. Unless they make _tremendous_ changes in their standard,
 we now know all of what we need to know to write device drivers for it. 

Well, it looks as though my surmise that In practice, however, I cannot
see I20 being around for very long before the anarchic element suss it out
and distribute its characteristics for free was a prophecy anticipated by
events.

BTW, I wouldn't mind finding out about it myself ...

Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED])


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Article on Linux and non-official dist.

1997-08-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

Hi Keith,

As you may be aware, there was another suggestion recently to issue a
mini-debian on CD with a magazine.  I did some work on that project and
solved the problems of making a workable distribution which took up approx
20 Mb of CD space.  So if you have 100 Mb available on a CD you can pick
another 80 Mb of packages. 

There were no dependancy problems and running dselect was a walk in the
park.

With my approach the readers can upgrade easily to a full Debian by ftp,
NFS or purchasing a CDROM.

If I can help, let me know.

Lindsay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832  32S, 116E
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Keith Beattie wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm in the process of writing an article about installing Linux (using
 Debian) and hope to have a compatible mini Debian distribution on the
 CD that comes with the magazine.  I've looked, but can't seem to find
 info on the policy and details on creating non-official distributions.
 
 This isn't a review, it's a how-to article. I'm hoping that this will
 give Linux, Debain and the concept a freely available software some
 good exposure, so I'd appreciate any help on getting this to go
 smoothly.  (It's my first article and plan to make a donation to the
 cause afterwards once they pay me.)
 
 Thanks,
 Keith
 
 
 --
 TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
 Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
 


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return

1997-08-27 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael Rokicki wrote:

 *It's probably OK. Send me the contents of /proc/cpuinfo. Is your chip from
 *Intel?
 
 processor : 0
 cpu   : 386
 model : unknown
 vendor_id : unknown
 stepping  : unknown
 fdiv_bug  : no
 hlt_bug   : no
 fpu   : no
 fpu_exception : no
 cpuid : no
 wp: no
 flags :
 bogomips  : 7.96
 
 That's interesting, my environment has HOSTTYPE=i586.  It's an AMD chip.

Very interesting is what mine says. I have a true Intel Pentium processor.

/proc/cpuinfo shows:

processor   : 0
cpu : 586
model   : Pentium 75+
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
stepping: 5
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid   : yes
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8
bogomips: 39.73

and HOSTTYPE=i486 (!)

the arch command says it is an i586.

What is wrong here that sets the HOSTTYPE variable to the wrong value?

Remco
--
Jean-Luc Picard: To baldly go where no man has gone before.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Samba 1.9.17 is out

1997-08-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello everyone,

Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several
browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is
really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it.
If anyone is interested please drop me a note.

E.-

P.S. An official package should make it into Ham.

-- 

Eloy A. Paris
Information Technology Department
Rockwell Automation de Venezuela
Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: q-mail: setup problem

1997-08-27 Thread dada
Joey Hess wrote:
 
 Thanks for using NetForward!
 http://www.netforward.com
 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
 
 Package: qmail
 Version: 1.00-2
 
 I'm filing a bug on this.
 
 dada wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I just installed qmail in my system to replace smail.
 
  When the configurarion script runs, here is that it return me:
 
  **
 
  qmailconfig
  Your hostname is antinoo
  --here the script stop for a while--
  soft error
  Sorry,I couldn't find your host's name in DNS
  You will have to set up control/me yourself
 
  
 
  I understand that the problem is that I have my bind pakage in bad setup
  (sorry, I don't know set up it. I answer the questions that scripts
  setup ask me, but I don't now do anymore), but I don't understand that
  is the last line: You will have to set up control/me yourself.
 
 Yes, I think this is a bug. It should refer to /etc/qmail/me . If you edit
 that file and place your hostname in it, qmail will probably work ok.
 

I do itbut it still don't work.

I put in me file the next:

   antinoo.futures.edu


what's the problem?

I supose that it don't work becouse if i email me, the mail never comes
to me (I don't know where is but the mail client loock that send it)


thanks


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I
have not been able to find anything.  tcpview looks promising but there is
no binary.  Any ideas?  I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces.

And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin
ethernet cable?

Lindsay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832  32S, 116E
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: reading mail locally

1997-08-27 Thread Bob Clark
Sounds like a job for fetchmail.

Will Lowe wrote:
 
 Ok,  again,  now that I'm back at school,  I'd like to have all my
 email/news reading be local,  on my debian box,  rather than on the
 central servers.  I can forward mail via .forward or .maildelivery (on two
 different systems).
 
 The problem is this:  my machine is (unfortunately) still running Win95 on
 (rare) occaisions,  and is also prone to the power outages caused by the
 microwaves of the other residents.  In essence,  I need a way for my
 machine to receive mail when booted to debian,  but not have that mail
 get lost if the system is down (which,  over breaks,  etc.,  can mean a
 week or more of downtime).  I've thought of two solutions,  but maybe
 someone else has another way.
 
 Solutions:
 
 1)  Forward mail to my machine (rivendell) by forwarding it all to one of
 my remote accounts,  and setting up a system that,  when rivendell boots,
 logs onto the remote account and replaces the .maildelivery with one that
 forwards mail to rivendell,  reinstating the original .maildelivery when
 rivendell goes to shutdown.
 
 2) Set up a cron-driven sort of thing that (every five minutes,  or
 whatever) rcp's my /var/spool/mail/~user file from each of several hosts,
 appending them all to /var/spool/mail/harpo on rivendell.
 
 Any suggestions,  comments,  or other thoughts?  Is there a package to do
 this automagically?
 
 Will
 
 ---
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/
   For PGP Public Key,  visit my website.
 ---


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: reading mail locally

1997-08-27 Thread Chiel_Postma
On Tue, Aug 26, 1997 at 11:42:41PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:

 In essence,  I need a way for my
 machine to receive mail when booted to debian,  but not have that mail
 get lost if the system is down (which,  over breaks,  etc.,  can mean a
 week or more of downtime).  I've thought of two solutions,  but maybe
 someone else has another way.


If the mail servers allow you to collect your mail with POP or IMAP you
should consider using fetchmail. It will fetch your mail from the various
servers and feed it to your home machine as if it had arrived via STMP.

Chiel


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Glenn Amerine
 john == john  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

john I wonder if it was truly a mistake.

Maybe someone in the group runs Linux. ;-}

Glenn
--
Glenn Amerine   Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Systems AnalystVoice: (614)224-1336
Metropolitan Human Services Commission  Fax: (614)224-6472


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: new install

1997-08-27 Thread tko
Karsten Bolding writes:
 
 Hi
 
 Just got a new computer with 2 Quantum Fireball ST2.1A and a Pioneer ATAPI CD 
 (DR-A24X)
 
 I'am having some problems... 
 
 I can boot the system and come to the point where
 
 Please wait 
   Installation is determining the current state ..
 
 and then the screen starts to be filed with 
 
   hdb: irq timeout: error  0x20
   hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51
   hdb: irq timeout: error  0x20
   hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51
   hdb: irq timeout: error  0x20
   hdb: irq timeout: status 0x51
 

I've seen this one before. It can be caused by 2 controllers using the same
interrupt. (Quick story) I purchased a used ethernet card without setup
software. When I added it to the system, I found out that it was mapped to the
same IRQ as my cdrom drive. I saw the same message as above. Win95 would not
even recognise either card or cdrom drive. Anyhow I found the setup software
and re-assigned the IRQ of the card. End of story!

-- 
-= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =-
Thomas Kocourek  KD4CIK - member of ARRL
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address
--... ...-- ...  -.. .  -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.-


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread joost witteveen
 
 I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I
 have not been able to find anything.  tcpview looks promising but there is
 no binary.  Any ideas?  I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces.

Is netdiag the package you are looking for?
/usr/sbin/statnet
/usr/sbin/trafshow
/usr/sbin/netwatch
/usr/bin/netload

 
 And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin
 ethernet cable?

Dunno. Wasn't there a maximum to the lenght of a BNC cable? (100 meters
or thereabouts)?


-- 
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
#what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out

1997-08-27 Thread joost witteveen
 Hello everyone,
 
 Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several
 browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is
 really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it.

Have you tried asking the maintainer, Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED],
for an update?

-- 
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
#what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out

1997-08-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi.

No, not yet, I haven't asked the maintainer for an update. I guess
he's out or something because I sent an e-mail to him a couple
of weeks ago regarding a question I had with the Samba package and
he did not get back to me.

Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is,
to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in
a bo system?

See ya.

E.-

  Hello everyone,
  
  Samba 1.9.17 is out, it has just been released. Since it solves several
  browsing related bugs and adds several new features my company is
  really interested in, I am making an unofficial package out of it.
 
 Have you tried asking the maintainer, Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 for an update?


-- 

Eloy A. Paris
Information Technology Department
Rockwell Automation de Venezuela
Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out

1997-08-27 Thread joost witteveen
 Hi.
 
 No, not yet, I haven't asked the maintainer for an update. I guess
 he's out or something because I sent an e-mail to him a couple
 of weeks ago regarding a question I had with the Samba package and
 he did not get back to me.
 
 Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is,
 to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in
 a bo system?

Yes, unless there are bugs in the package...
But usually, it works OK.


-- 
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
#what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Qmail package, where?

1997-08-27 Thread Paulo Almeida
Hi everybody!

I am looking for the qmail package so that I can install it on a debian
platform. Unfortunately I was unable to find it so far. Can anyone
please tell me where I might find the package. (the complete url would
be appreciated)

Thanks in advance.

Paulo

--

   Instituto de Gestao Informatica e Financeira da Saude

Paulo Jorge de Almeida
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice:  +351 1 7925656
Fax:+351 1 792

My moto: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes
  from bad judgement.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Listen to some good music like U2.




--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Samba 1.9.17 is out

1997-08-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
  Any way, if he comes with an update it'll go into Hamm. My question is,
  to make it work with Bo (libc5) all that is needed is to recompile in
  a bo system?
 
 Yes, unless there are bugs in the package...
 But usually, it works OK.

OK, thanks. I'll have the chance to test this in about 15 minutes when
I finish my unofficial package that I'll use while Klee comes out
with an official update. My development machine is setup to build
libc6 packages and my production servers are still in libc5.

See ya.

E.-

-- 

Eloy A. Paris
Information Technology Department
Rockwell Automation de Venezuela
Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation

1997-08-27 Thread Brian White
 It just dawned on me that all intel packages must be compiled for 386 to
 make them intel platform-independant.  I am wondering how much of a
 performance boost can be had by recompiling them for 486 or pentium.

10% improvement would probably be about the maximum.  While 10% is the
point where things start becoming significant, it would only make any
noticeable difference on a couple packages, so I don't think it's worth
it in general.


 While it is probably a waste of disk space to have trees for each type of
 CPU (i386, i486, i586), it MIGHT be worthwhile to have a kernal binary for
 each target if a performance boost can be gotten.

For any type of performance system, people should build their own kernels
anyway, in my opinion.

Also, because of the nice way Debian source builds itself, anyone can
easily recompile any package that they want the extra speed boost on.

  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

---
In theory, theory and practice are the same.  In practice, they're not.



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: [Performance] 386vs486 compilation

1997-08-27 Thread Brian White
  From: Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Have you ever seen numbers for running Pentium code on a 486 and 386 vs
   native code?
 
  I think the Pentium code generator now uses Pentium-specific instructions.
  Before then, Pentium code on 386 and 486 sometimes ran faster than the 386
  and 486 code, because it avoided some instructions that turned out to be 
  slow.
 
 Yes, this is what I usually hear about most compilers. P5 Code runs as
 fast or faster on 486's. What GCC needs is a to have the 486 generator
 perform pentium optimizations and not use pentium/386 instructions. Then
 we could compile everything for this. The speed hit on a pentium would
 drop on alot of apps and the 486/386 would not have any hit..

Forgive me for picking a nit...

The reason P5-optimized code runs faster on a 486 than 486-optimized code
has to do with the much improved general optimizations of the P5 code
generator.

Logically, 486-optimized code will _always_ run faster on a 486 than
P5-optimized code.  If that is not the case, then the 486-optimized code
wasn't optimal after all.


 I wonder what instructions gcc uses on the 586, I don't recall seeing that
 many usefull ones for general purpose stuff..

Last I heard, gcc didn't use anything but instructions available on the 386.

  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

---
   Give others some insight into YOUR pages!  http://www.verisim.com/insite/



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Linux in Wired

1997-08-27 Thread Brian White
There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired.  It
was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good.

  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

---
 Generated by Signify v1.02.  For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


New mailing list: debian-dissent

1997-08-27 Thread Dave Cinege
A new mailing list has been formed to function as an arena for discussions 
about changing the current Debian (non technical) structure and function.

General discussion topicality about the Debian project is:

reorganization
restructuring
splitting or branching
purpose and ethics surrounding such
alerts to breach of policy, ethics, or 'secret' actions

It is a public avenue to discuss such things and if need be point fingers
without fear of being censored or removed from the list.

To join or leave, send mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
with subscribe or unsubscribe in the title.

To post:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Full uncensored archives are available at:
http://www.psychosis.com/listarch/debian-dissent/

-
http://www.psychosis.com/emc/   Elite MicroComputers   908-541-4214
http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/  Linux Router Project


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Support for the 3Com 3C900 (Etherlink PCI) network card?

1997-08-27 Thread Lazaro Salem
It seems there is no module support for the 3Com 3C900 Etherlink PCI
card in the standard kernel (version 2.0.x). However I found there are 
some updated source code and a compiled module in:

  http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html 

Has anybody tried the compiled module? 
Will it work with on a debian system running 2.0.27 
or 2.0.29 ? or...?  
(I remeber reading something about the header in debian were the last 
stable ones instead of the latest found in the original kernel
source).

Any comment from those who had  experience with this cards will be 
appreciated.
Thanks. 

-- 
Lazaro D. Salem   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RF-Rogaland Research   Phone: +47 51 87 50 00
P.O.Box 2503, Ullandhaug  Direct: +47 51 87 50 65
N-4004 Stavanger, NORWAY Fax: +47 51 87 52 00


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Sony StorStation (Ditto 2Gb)

1997-08-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 I've just procured the above tape drive and installed it on my parallel
 port.  I also rebuilt my kernel to support tape (I think).  Now what? 
 What package can I use to back up my system?  TIA

That drive is not (yet, at least) supported by Linux.  It uses a
proprietary protocol which Iomega has not released.  I think there has
been some progress in obtaining the specs, so wait and see.  Or you might
want to consider exchanging it for one of the supported drives (see the
Ftape-HOWTO).

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Support for the 3Com 3C900 (Etherlink PCI) network card?

1997-08-27 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 04:28:50PM +0200, Lazaro Salem wrote:
: It seems there is no module support for the 3Com 3C900 Etherlink PCI
: card in the standard kernel (version 2.0.x). However I found there are 
: some updated source code and a compiled module in:
: 
:   http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html 
: 
: Has anybody tried the compiled module? 

Yep..

Running version 0.42 of the driver from the above page on the following
cards:

3c595
3c900
3c905

All work splendidly.

-- 
Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy
My employers like me, but not| and genius.  We aim to erase that line
enough to let me speak for them. |  --Unknown

http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: CDROM death

1997-08-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Carl Flippin wrote:

 Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux, 
 the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16 
 and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the 
 drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this 
 problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive?

I would strongly recommend that you compile the appropriate non-IDE driver
into your kernel and avoid autoprobing.  I had many problems with
autoprobing a Creative Labs CD-ROM.   
 

Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Sparc Debian?

1997-08-27 Thread Johnie Ingram

Michael == Michael Solomani Mifsud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michael  Does Debian make a version of Linux (UNiX?) for sparc
Michael machines?  If so, what kind of preformance comparison between
Michael solaris 2.5 and SunOS?  Thanks.

Funny you should ask -- I just installed it the other day.

The Sparc version is still under development, but I did manage to get
it to work.  In fact I put it on a mission-critical production system,
with some 1500 users, and most never noticed a change.

I had great faith in Linux and Debian, obviously, from long
experience.  :-) 

Before this it ran the venerable SunOS 4.1.3; I can't compare it to
the newer Solaris.  But after running it for two days in a
less-than-ideal configuration, it seems comparable.

There were some problems at first with it running out of memory until
I added a 64MB swapfile to the 64MB RAM.  The swapfile and the NFS
root probably slow it down.  An honest comparison can't be made until
I install it just like SunOS was, permanent-style -- separate /,
/usr/, /var, swap, and two /home partitions, spread across 3 SCSI
disks.

But right now the system load bounces around 1.3 with 28 users using
pine, and sendmail MTA, if that's any basis for comparison.

You can hit delete now -- what follows is an account of my experience.




-- clip here --

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:07:14 -0400


If anyone's interested in my endeavor to secretly replace SunOS 4.1.3
with Linux on a SparcStation 20.

First I FTPd the kernel and debian-sparc-root and installed it
according to the doc file (which curiously, referred to it as
sparc-debian-root).  Then I configured bootpd and did a boot net --
which failed of course.

I had to follow the HTML links and study the manuals before realizing
that bootpd doesn't do arp.  Then there was a few minutes of tension
where rarp didn't seem to be available at all, but it turns out that
kerneld just wasn't autoloading it.

Then there ensued the usual problem with tftpd being off in
hosts.allow.

Now the kernel booted, repeatedly.  The ftpd daemon reported a
successful fetch every 10 seconds.  It took a half hour to determine a
problem with an IP address was causing this -- the going theory on IRC
was that the kernel itself was compatiable with sun4m.  (I installed
the RedHat kernel briefly to make sure this wasn't the problem.)

Now it worked, and I was never so happy to see the color or mono
dialog box.  I entered dinstall, went straight to the shell option (I
didn't yet realize VCs worked on sparc), and tried to fdisk.

There was no fdisk anywhere, or dmesg -- the two things i needed most.

Undaunted, I went to the NFS server and ar x'd the fdisk.deb and
tarred it into place.  Then since I was at it, I did some other
packages too.  Returning to the sparc I found this broke a bunch of
things, like ls, for some reason.

The #debian channel on IRC suggested i just unpack the base.tgz and
mount THAT, which worked better.

I tinkered around for a while, switching between SunOS 4.1.3 and linux
to make absolutely sure the disk I was about to wipe was /dev/sd2.
(I have three disks, two of which are identical 2GB -- one with vital
/home data, the other empty.)  Finally after checking the SCSI IDs I
guessed that SunOS boots from /dev/sdc and that /dev/sd2 was
/dev/sdb.

When it came down to the actual partitioning it turned out I had no
idea how to repartition a Sun disk.  When fdisk started saying it was
recommended that /dev/sdc3 be a whole disk partition, I basically
gave up and decided to just mke2fs what was already there -- a 2GB
partition linux called /dev/sdb7.

At this point it was smooth sailing until I decided to try runlevel 2.
Turns out there's a /etc/init.d/network in base.tgz that kills the
RARP configuration the kernel did, so the system hangs a split second
after going multiuser.

I also found I had no /etc/inittab, which init.d didn't like.  And I
had to edit /etc/fstab to put a NFS entry there for /.

Now I had multiuser linux going, and an all-but empty partition, a
familar scenario.  Crossing my fingers, I was happy to find that
mount -t ufs /dev/sda7 actually worked -- not only did someone think
to compile ufs in, this also meant I hadn't trashed the good disk.

I started a copy of the 1.8-odd GB of /home data to the linux
partition, which even now -- six hours later -- hasn't finished.
Yet linux insists they are all 10.000MHz FAST SCSI-II drives.
Hm.

In the meantime I set about installing Debian/Sparc.  Turned out
crucial packages weren't there, like the libc6 that grep and sed
seemed to want.  Nor were some packages I need to have before morning:
apache, bind, sendmail, proftpd, etc.

So I set about installing the development environment.  Turns out that
even with automake and gettext installed, I couldn't build dpkg
1.4.0.19.  The provided dpkg 1.4.0.8 can't unpack source, so I've had
to put up with zcat ../package*diff.gz | patch -p1 all night.

This is where I'm at now, running dpkg-buildpackage -B on stuff I

Re: Qmail package, where?

1997-08-27 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Paulo Almeida wrote:

 I am looking for the qmail package so that I can install it on a debian
 platform. Unfortunately I was unable to find it so far. Can anyone
 please tell me where I might find the package. (the complete url would
 be appreciated)

It is available in your local debian mirror at
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/qmail*

- -- 
   |Your friends will know you better in the
Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |   will know you in a thousand years.
   |  -- Illusions

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3a
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNAQ6XqCk2fENdzpVAQFBmwP/aNtMJuuLhXdIzdtSHgdGlF80MFhYM9RK
VfIXMMfwK9dgZ0x5qJ7CUmu0MlZldysfR3Je+zVDOqrzq9Xf1AsKUlF8wqO/vD3x
DspzRzqkz9QayCP8iTC4kjg+xUrYeHkNU17OT4/NqsKPgaMnNoafs693gsLThUgn
wwLS7o+XYxQ=
=MoZH
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: sendmail/smail and off-line mail

1997-08-27 Thread Gonzalo Diethelm
On Aug 25, 1997, at 12:41, Alexander Stavitsky wrote:
  Apparently I have found that sendmail is easier to setup, than smail.
  I might be wrong but the horrible sendmail setup stories seem to
  originate before the use of m4 macros.

I concur.

  If you do something standard there are m4 macros written for you so you
  don't have to touch sendmail.cf
  
  I have setup of 8 computers with the central mail spool and I
  did not change a single line in sendmail.cf.
  I did all the changes in sendmail.mc which consisted of ~10 lines.
  I might be wrong but when I tried to do that with smail it would require
  editing more than one file with more than 10 lines each.
  
  For me sendmail was easier than smail.

Alexander, could you share with me your sendmail.mc? This is the setup
I need, and I decided to switch back to sendmail, so I can administer
just one MTA everywhere I work:

1. Local mail gets delivered right away (or as soon as sendmail kicks
   in). If I send mail from 'usera' to 'userb' (just like that, no
   domain specification), I want userb to see her mail as coming from
   'usera' (no domain). [This last one is a weak requirement, and I
   could live without it].

2. Outgoing mail gets queued until I dial up my ISP. At this point, I
   may want to force its delivery by issuing 'sendmail -q'. If I send
   mail from 'usera' to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Bruce must see this mail
   as coming from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (that is, for outgoing mail I
   wish to masquerade as 'my.isp.site').

3. I'll fetch incoming mail with fetchmail, which will deliver it to
   port 25 (SMTP). If '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' sent mail to
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', I would like sendmail to deliver it to usera's
   local spool file; Bruce's address should be kept intact.

I would guess this is a very straightforward and, what's more
important, very common, setup. I'm CCing the list so that, if anybody
else besides Alexander has any insight, they can share it with
others. If this is not a FAQ or a standard option in sendmail's
configuration, somebody (I?) should file a bug/enhancement report
and/or implement it. Of course, if it is already there, I should just
shut up.

-- 
Gonzalo A. Diethelm G.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Compiling Qpopper

1997-08-27 Thread Johnie Ingram

Bruno == Bruno O M Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bruno  Hi all; I'm compiling qpopper and everything's fine.  But, to
Bruno enable it to recognize shadow, it must to have a shadow
Bruno library.  It complains: #ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file
Bruno or directory What package must I install, or where do I find

You need to install libc.  :-)  Or put another way, the shadow library
is built in, so just remove the reference to -lshadow.

Same deal if u bomb out on a -lcrypt -- its separate in libc6, but
built into libc5.


-  PGP  E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78  63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C
 
   __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mm   mm
  / /(_)_ __  _   ___  __netgod irc.debian.org  mm mm
 / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m
/ /__| | | | | |_| |Those who do not understand UNIX   mm   mm
\/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ are doomed to repeat it, poorly.   GO BLUE




--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Problem creating custom kernel image

1997-08-27 Thread Steve Mayer
Manoj,

   Sorry about not including the error message.  I was in a hurry and
meant to add the error as an attachment.  Forgot all about it.  When I
get home from work, I'll resend the message with the error.G

Steve Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 Hi,
 Steve == Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Steve When trying to create a custom kernel image, I am in the middle

 Steve of the 'make config', right at the point that make splits off
 Steve and tries to set up the configuration script for the sound
 Steve card, and I get 4 parse errors in /usr/include/stdlib.h.

 The error messages should help us help you. As would the
  output of :
  % dpkg -l libc5 libc6 gcc libc5-dev binutils make bin86 gawk gzip \
shellutils grep cpp

 These are all the packages that the kernel build process
  should depend on. It is difficult to say what is wrong based on the
  information available.

 manoj
 --
  OF Auxiliary, Mixed, and National Arms The second sort of
  unprofitable arms are auxiliaries, by whom I mean, troops brought to
  help and protect you by a potentate whom you summon to your aid;
  Auxiliaries may be excellent and useful soldiers for themselves, but
  are always hurtful to him who calls them in; for if they are
  defeated, he is undone, if victorious, he becomes their prisoner.
  . . . from Chapter XIII, _The Prince_, by Niccolo Machiavelli, 1513
 Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mobile, Alabama USA
 url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/




--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


finding systeminfo.h

1997-08-27 Thread Paul
Hi Folks, sorry for my last email it got screwed up some how.  I have the
latest source for speakfreely 6.1c and I am trying to compile it.  

[root:/usr/src/speak_freely-6.1c:]$make
cc -fsingle  -O -Iadpcm -Ilpc -Igsm/inc -Imd5 -Iidea -Ilibdes
-DInternet_Port=2074 -DHALF_DUPLEX -DSolaris -DTHREADS-c speaker.c -o
speaker.o
In file included from speaker.c:10:
speakfree.h:41: sys/systeminfo.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [speaker.o] Error 1

I have the latest versions of cpp and gcc and libc5.  can anyone help me
please let me know if you need more information.
Paul



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Missing /etc/resolv.conf

1997-08-27 Thread Gonzalo Diethelm
I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the
/etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package
I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem,
but it didn't.

-- 
Gonzalo A. Diethelm G.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Printing - text works, ps doesn't

1997-08-27 Thread Paul Miller
I'm trying to print postscript files over samba.. When I print from
StarOffice 3.1 I get this error message in the print error file:

/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter: /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300
- sDEVICE=cdj550 -sOutputFile=- -  failed

It works perfectly if I type 'lpr -Plp filename' ... I've attached my
printcap  filter file (samba filter).

-Paul 
#
# Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.
# All rights reserved.
#
# Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted
# provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given
# to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University
# may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
# software without specific prior written permission. This software
# is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty.
#
#   @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
#  This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. 
#
#lp|hp660c|HP Deskjet 660C:\
#   :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp660c:\
#   :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
#   :if=/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter:\
#   :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

lp|hp_dj660c|HP Deskjet 660C:\
:cm=HP Deskjet 660C:\
:lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\

:af=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/acct:lf=/var/spool/lpd/smb/hp_dj660c/errs:\
:if=/usr/local/sbin/hp_dj660c:

#!/bin/sh

/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter $* | (

logfile=/tmp/smb-print.log
# logfile=/dev/null

eval acct_file=\$$#
spool_dir=`dirname $acct_file` 
config_file=$spool_dir/.config

eval `cat $config_file`

echo server $server, service $service  $logfile

(
# NOTE You may wish to add the line `echo translate' if you want automatic
# CR/LF translation when printing.
#echo translate
echo print -
cat
) | /usr/bin/smbclient $server\\$service $password -U $server -N -P  
$logfile

)


XDM

1997-08-27 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante



Hi all! 

A few days ago I tried to upgrade my Debian 1.2 - 1.3.1
(According to Linux System Labs). As a matter of fact, I just upgraded
some of the packages. Among theses, I upgraded X11, thinking that I was
taking care of everything... I upgraded xbase and xserver_s3 and all other
X related stuff, run shadowconfig on; shadowconfig off (I didn't want
shadow passwds) and, til what I saw, all config files had remained
unchanged... (or moved to *.old, what meant nothing, once diff showed that
they were equal). I reboot the system to see what happened and !!! XDM
hangs !!! I simply can't login. Well, after a while, I was able to login
(not via XDM) and I tried to figure out what that was (with no success).
The only different thing I saw was that /etc/xdm as calling xdm-shadow,
and so I moved it back to cal xdm. By the way, I can only login in text
mode!
Well, I sorry if it has already been discussed in here, but all I
have seen around was something about shadowconfig on and off (or only on),
and all would be nice...

Any help is VERY, VERY much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Daniel.

__
Daniel Doro Ferranteemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administratorhttp://www.cecm.usp.br/~danieldf

CECM - Curso Experimental de Ciencias Moleculares - USP
   Experimental Course of Molecular Sciences - University of Sao Paulo



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: CDROM death

1997-08-27 Thread Joost Kooij
Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Carl Flippin wrote:
 
  Every time I try to access my cdrom under any distribution of Linux,
  the entire system goes into limbo. My drive is connected to a PAS 16
  and it appears that autoprobe is finding it since the light on the
  drive flashes. The drive is a Toshiba 2x. Has anyone heard of this
  problem before? Do I need to get a new CDROM drive?
 
 I would strongly recommend that you compile the appropriate non-IDE driver
 into your kernel and avoid autoprobing.  I had many problems with
 autoprobing a Creative Labs CD-ROM.

My matshushita cdrom got really fried after being probed as a mitsumi.
After that, many parts in the computer started to warm up dangerously
and I took the drive out before it could do any more damage.


Joost


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 07:44:35PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
 And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin
 ethernet cable?

AFAIK, the specs are about 30 connections, and 180 metres
(300 foot) maximum length.


Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Student, computer science  computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT.
http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 53%
Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street..


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf

1997-08-27 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Diethelm wrote:

 I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the
 /etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package
 I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem,
 but it didn't.
 
I believe that resolv.conf is created by the installation software when
you Configure the Network. If you avoided that section during the
installation, (and easy thing to do) then you can reboot the rescue disk,
use the installation menu to mount a swap and root partition and then
choose Configure the Network and be sure to specify a name server. This
will create the resolv.conf file you are looking for.

You could also just create it by hand, using your favorite editor. Mine
looks like:

search polaris.net
nameserver  199.44.34.11
nameserver  199.44.34.2

Your entries will, of course, be different than mine.

Luck,

Dwarf
-- 
_-_-_-_-_-_-  _-_-_-_-_-_-_-

aka   Dale Scheetz   Phone:   1 (904) 656-9769
  Flexible Software  11000 McCrackin Road
  e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL  32308

_-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf

1997-08-27 Thread Victor Torrico

Try making your own by (as root):

1. touch /etc/resolv.conf
2. edit /etc/resolv.conf to add your dns nameserver

The file should look like:

search .
nameserver 123.123.123.123

123.123.123.123 would be your domain nameserver numerical address.

Cheers,


--
Victor Torrico

   -- Wildflower Hill, Head Waters, Virginia --


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Rick Hawkins

 Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
 someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
 (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
 the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
 before the i2o group removed it from the server.

 Wonder how many of them said  DOH and slapped their forehead in a most
 Homer-like fashion?

Or, was it a deliberate leak?  I can easily picture a decision to 
accidentally place it there until someone had to officially notice the 
mistake.  Think of how much quieter (sp???) certain groups ( like us) will be 
. . .

rick



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread Lawrence
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 07:44:35PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
  And another question - how many hosts can one have on a single thin
  ethernet cable?
 
 AFAIK, the specs are about 30 connections, and 180 metres
 (300 foot) maximum length.

to be accurate, 185 metres.

lawrence


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Kevin Traas
  Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
 someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
 (about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
 the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
 before the i2o group removed it from the server.

 Wonder how many of them said  DOH and slapped their forehead in a most
 Homer-like fashion?

Or, was it a deliberate leak?  I can easily picture a decision to
accidentally place it there until someone had to officially notice the
mistake.  Think of how much quieter (sp???) certain groups ( like us) will
be . . .

Interesting theory.  Very plausible.

Later,

Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (604) 882-8169



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: I2O article

1997-08-27 Thread Alfonso E. Urdaneta
Excuse my ignoramce, but what is I2O ?

Alfonso.

-- 
Alfonso E. Urdaneta VOX: 407.729.3840
Harris Corp/Transcomm Division  FAX: 407.729.1962
PO Box 5100, MS 6B.3827mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Melbourne, FL 32902.5100  http://www.transcomm.ess.harris.com

The Harris Corporation agrees with everything I say.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
joost witteveen wrote:
  I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I
  have not been able to find anything.  tcpview looks promising but there is
  no binary.  Any ideas?  I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces.
 
 Is netdiag the package you are looking for?
 /usr/sbin/statnet
 /usr/sbin/trafshow
 /usr/sbin/netwatch
 /usr/bin/netload

Another possibility - procmeter (an X program) can show some graphs of how
loaded ppp0, eth0, etc. are. It can also show things like collisions, and it
can show separate graphs for number of packets sent and number of packets
received.
 
-- 
see shy jo


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


[Q] smail and fetchmail

1997-08-27 Thread G'razel
I got Debian installed and working fine this time around (think I had a
corrupted base files disk) but smail and fetchmail aren't working this
time, fetchamail seems to be going out and checking my accounts and
marking the messages read in the ISP's spool but not downloading them to
my machine



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Off-topic - tcpload

1997-08-27 Thread Jim Pick

   I have need for something to show me the load on an interface and so far I
   have not been able to find anything.  tcpview looks promising but there is
   no binary.  Any ideas?  I'm interested in both eth0 and ppp0 interfaces.
  
  Is netdiag the package you are looking for?
  /usr/sbin/statnet
  /usr/sbin/trafshow
  /usr/sbin/netwatch
  /usr/bin/netload
 
 Another possibility - procmeter (an X program) can show some graphs of how
 loaded ppp0, eth0, etc. are. It can also show things like collisions, and it
 can show separate graphs for number of packets sent and number of packets
 received.

And if you want to make a graph of load over time - the mrtg package can do 
that
for you (using snmp and HTML).  There was an article in Linux Journal about it.

Cheers,

 - Jim




pgpcDGK4R8OlM.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Brian White wrote:
 There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired.  It
 was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good.

And it's finally online now at http://.wired.com/wired/5.08/linux.html

-- 
see shy jo


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: [Q] smail and fetchmail

1997-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
G'razel == G'razel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

G'razel I got Debian installed and working fine this time around
G'razel (think I had a G'razel corrupted base files disk) but smail
G'razel and fetchmail aren't working this G'razel time, fetchamail
G'razel seems to be going out and checking my accounts and G'razel
G'razel marking the messages read in the ISP's spool but not
G'razel downloading them to G'razel my machine

Could you please run 
 % fetchmail -c -v 
-c: Just check mail, do not download
-v: do it verbosely

 % fetchmail -a -v -k
-a: fetch *all* messages
-v: gimme all kinds of status
-k: keep a copy on the server in case smail is still messed up.

manoj

__ fetchmail -c -v
fetchmail: 4.0.1 querying datasync.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Aug 27 15:33:06 
1997
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Cubic Circle's v1.14 1997/04/11 POP3 ready [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
fetchmail: POP3 USER srivasta
fetchmail: POP3 +OK srivasta selected
fetchmail: POP3 PASS *
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Congratulations!
fetchmail: selecting default folder
fetchmail: POP3 STAT
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 4 11671
fetchmail: POP3 LAST
fetchmail: POP3 -ERR Invalid command, try one of: STAT, LIST [msg], RETR msg, 
TOP msg n, DELE msg, UIDL [msg], NOOP, RSET, QUIT
fetchmail: POP3 UIDL
fetchmail: POP3 +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
fetchmail: POP3 1 bf02823f3109
fetchmail: POP3 2 5ba630c6030f
fetchmail: POP3 3 d431e1e93b05
fetchmail: POP3 4 a6ff86042810
fetchmail: POP3 .
fetchmail: 4 messages at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: normal termination, status 0

-- 
 I complain often about my old age.  Now I have stopped complaining
 because I can't get old anymore, the process is finished. Paul Erdos
Manoj Srivastava   url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: ftp status under dselect

1997-08-27 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Bob wrote:

 : Is there any way to have dselect show a status during the ftp of selected
 : files?  Something similar to the status indicator that ncftp uses would be
 : nice.

Nope there isn't. At least not right now in the stable tree.


Remco

-- 
// Remco van de Meent   
//   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
//   www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl
//Never make any mistaeks. 


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Mirror Cron job ?

1997-08-27 Thread Ricardo Muggli
What is the correct way to set up a mirror cron job that runs daily?
This is what I have done. 
Created a file /etc/cron.daily/mirror with this in it:

#!/bin/sh

/usr/bin/mirror /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org


Shouldn't this be run as a different user than root? If so how do I set it
up that way? Do I use the crontab command to do this?

I appreciate all of the discussion on this list. It is in my mind one of
the best resources for learning the many aspects of linux and of the best
distribution... Debian.

thanks all,

- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Changing mouse buttons in Xterm

1997-08-27 Thread David_Neuer
How does one change mouse button assignments in Xterm?  Is there an
initialization file somewhere?  I have read the man page, but couldn't figure
this out.  The default for the paste function for selected text is mouse button
# 3, but I only have a 2 button mouse and would like to set the paste function
to use button # 2.

Thanks,
Dave N.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired.  It
: was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good.

All right!!! I read the on-line version (referenced by another Debian 
fellow in this list) and think it is a great article. Another step
towards (torvalds?) world domination :-)

E.-

-- 

Eloy A. Paris
Information Technology Department
Rockwell Automation de Venezuela
Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-27 Thread Ted Harding
 Brian White wrote:
  There was a decent article about Linux in the latest issue of Wired.  It
  was honest and fair, in my opinion, and Linux came out looking really good.
 
 And it's finally online now at http://.wired.com/wired/5.08/linux.html

And in this article is stated:

 However, Microsoft's huge installed base of users and wide range of
 applications is unlikely to be surpassed, despite what believers in
 the Linux magic might hope. Linus has no illusions on the subject and
 even employs tools like Microsoft's PowerPoint - running on top of
 Linux via one of the Windows emulators available.  

The first sentence I heartily support: when you need to get work done
you are likely to be forced into running an MS-Win application at some
stage and, if you can't run it on Linux, too bad.

Which leads on to the question: which one of the Windows emulators
available does Linus Torvalds actually use? Does anyone know?

If it's good enough for him to run PowerPoint on it, it's probably good
enough for me and I'd definitely like to know!

Best wishes,
Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED])


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Patch troubles

1997-08-27 Thread Curtis L. Daugaard
I'm not an utter newbie, but I feel like it right now.  I have a patch
(to support certain hardware) against 2.0.30 that I've successfully
applied.  Good.  But I guess I'm just clueless about how to apply the
pre-patch 2.0.31-1 through 2.0.31-7 (to gain support for the LS-120
drive).  I've checked the Kernel HowTo, documentation in the kernel
sources, directories from which the patches were downloaded, man page
for patch, etc., but I the patches don't succeed.  Even after a fresh
reinstall of the sources, patch repeatedly alerts me that it thinks I'm
trying to reapply a patch.  So I guess my questions come to this:

1.  What is needed to apply the pre-patches mentioned above?

2.  Should the patch against 2.0.30 be applied before or after the
pre-patches? 

My thanks to anyone who can help.

--
C.L. Daugaard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
__


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? 
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Missing /etc/resolv.conf

1997-08-27 Thread lc29b50
On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Diethelm wrote:

 I just noticed I don't have a resolv.conf file anywhere in the
 /etc hierarchy. Is it anywhere else (I doubt it)? Is there a package
 I'm missing? I just added bind, thinking that would solve the problem,
 but it didn't.

just add one yourself.


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? 
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: Mirror Cron job ?

1997-08-27 Thread joost witteveen
 What is the correct way to set up a mirror cron job that runs daily?
 This is what I have done. 
 Created a file /etc/cron.daily/mirror with this in it:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 /usr/bin/mirror /etc/mirror/packages/ftp.debian.org
 
 
 Shouldn't this be run as a different user than root? If so how do I set it
 up that way? Do I use the crontab command to do this?

Yes, just as (ordinary user) do:

crontab -e

and then add a line like

10 4 * * *   $HOME/debian/do_mirror 

(this will start the cron job at 4:10 every day).
where $HOME/debian/do_mirror can look like

$ cat $HOME/debian/do_mirror
#!/bin/bash
date $HOME/debian/mirror_results
/usr/bin/mirror $HOME/debian/mirror.defaults  $HOME/debian/mirror_results

This way you don't get email about it every day, while you still have
a logfile to see what went wrong (if anything).


-- 
joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
#what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? 
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .