Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote: > > There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence > states that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same > time. =-O > That is, unless he's in a chronosynclastic infundibulum. Then again, we have "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All." (Hey, didn't I just say that on the cq-contest reflector? I hope I'm not sinking into an chronosynclastic infundi...) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] SW B'cast on 17m
LIstening to all ham bands from HS, one can hear almost more illegal and quasi-legal transmissions than ham signals. Except for contest days, the average is fewer ham signals. Use it or lose it. 73 Charles HarpoleHS0ZCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
Um, yes, but I do believe that under current DXCC rules, if you are in one entity and you operate a remote or auxilliary station that's in another, the contacts you make are not valid for DXCC purposes. 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve-KF2TI Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:00 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and another computer So, I set this up and what?? the Tango Italy station go ahead Thank you This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve over Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59. BTW how do i sound over Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct up to you 73 have i hope i have a good operation Rgr that I am sure I will On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote: Date sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org From: Fred Stevens K2FRD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions > Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to determine the specifics on this. > > I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you working your own equipment and somebody else. > > There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O > > It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two. > > All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old age. :-[ > > 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS > > At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote: > >What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your station and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in order? > > > >How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is legal. > > > >See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. > > > >Bill W4WX > > -- > 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS > http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] T91AD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any info on T91AD, worked on 30 mtrs evening of 4/3, not in QRZ. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org There are no T91 callsigns with two letter suffix in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is either one letter suffix for A class operator or three letter suffix for club station. None of the active callsigns comes even close to this AD suffix and I do not have idea what is the real callsign of the station you have worked. 73's Boris T93Y -- Boris Knezovic T93Y, P.O. Box 59, Sarajevo BA-71000, Bosnia and Herzegovina E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB Page: http://www.t93y.com -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Working yourself
It appears that the only non controversial answer is offered by the IOTA program: If you operate from "there" you get the country credit. Makes sense to me! Sort of takes the flames away . Dave, W5WP Asbestos suit on. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
I had several remotely-operated internet-controlled PSK contacts while in Labrador two summers ago. One contact in particular was in Germany using his Austrian callsign, but actually making contact with me through a transceiver in Boston using a W1 prefix before his own callsign (W1/OE8xxx). While we had several pleasant QSOs, if he had QSLed me for VO2 for his OE QTH, I would not have been able to justify sending him a Zone Two card. The below reminds me of a guy serving as his own lawyer. He put himself on the stand, then for each question he would ask of himself, he went down to the floor to ask the question, then return to the stand to answer his own question. It got ridiculous when he asked himself to repeat the question. QSL direct, save yourself a little postage $, a lot of waiting time via the Buro, and send yourself as many green stamps as you have in your wallet. :-D 73 de Fred K2FRD At 1:59 + 04/04/2006, Steve-KF2TI wrote: >On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up >some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from >anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and >another computer > >So, I set this up and what?? > >the Tango Italy station go ahead > >Thank you This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve over > >Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59. BTW how do i sound over > >Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over > >Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct > >up to you > >73 have i hope i have a good operation > >Rgr that I am sure I will -- 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
and if you bust the call, who's to blame? 73 Don N1DG At 09:59 PM 4/3/2006, Steve-KF2TI wrote: >On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up >some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from >anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and >another computer > >So, I set this up and what?? > >the Tango Italy station go ahead > >Thank you This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve over > >Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59. BTW how do i sound over > >Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over > >Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct > >up to you > >73 have i hope i have a good operation > >Rgr that I am sure I will > > >On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote: > >Date sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700 >To: dx-chat@njdxa.org >From: Fred Stevens K2FRD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions > >> Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual >> operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX >> operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to >> determine the specifics on this. >> >> I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole >> in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you >> working your own equipment and somebody else. >> >> There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states >> that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O >> >> It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even >> though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two. >> >> All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old >> age. :-[ >> >> 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS >> >> At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote: >> >What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been >> >told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you >> >are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you >> >can get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your >> >station and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in >> >order? >> > >> >How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this >> >is legal. >> > >> >See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. >> > >> >Bill W4WX >> >> -- >> 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS >> http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html >> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems >> http://njdxa.org/dx-chat >> >> To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org >> >> This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA >> http://njdxa.org >> >> > > > >Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems >http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA >http://njdxa.org - N1DG--Licensed since 1962 EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V Pilot: 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI Webmaster: 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P, ZL9CI QSL Manager: A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ, KH7Z Member: FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC DON GREENBAUM DUXBURY, MA, USA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and another computer So, I set this up and what?? the Tango Italy station go ahead Thank you This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve over Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59. BTW how do i sound over Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct up to you 73 have i hope i have a good operation Rgr that I am sure I will On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote: Date sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org From: Fred Stevens K2FRD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions > Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual > operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX > operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to determine > the specifics on this. > > I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole in > DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you working > your own equipment and somebody else. > > There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states > that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O > > It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even > though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two. > > All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old > age. :-[ > > 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS > > At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote: > >What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been > >told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are > >on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can > >get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your > >station and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in > >order? > > > >How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this > >is legal. > > > >See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. > > > >Bill W4WX > > -- > 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS > http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] control ops
From "FCC Rulebook" Every control operator is bound by the frequency privileges of his or her license, regardless of what class license is held by the station owner. So, if the visiting ham has a lower license, the owners call can be used, but the visitor still cannot go beyong the privileges of his own license. A visitor can use their own call at another station, but cannot go beyond their own privileges. If you visit a station of a lower class licensee, and use the station call, you must sign station call/ your call if you go beyond the station owners privileges. A lower class operator could operate as a third party with higher class privileges if the owner is at the control point. But, I guess the question is: Do you want to work DXCC as a station, or as an operator. I think most would feel it is the accomplishment of the individual, like you could go to someones station and work a DXpedition you couldn't work from home, and no one would argue that you didn't make a contact for DXCC. But, a station could also work DXCC. For example a DXpedition with multi-ops, or a contest station with multi-ops. I guess its up to the individual what he wants to do. 73, Duane, WV2B "Nothing great is ever achieved without enthusiasm."- Ralph Waldo Emerson.
[DX-CHAT] SW B'cast on 17m
Hi all, I was at a friend's QTH in Toronto (Canada) over the weekend and we were hearing what seemed to be a Chinese-language broadcast around 2300 local time on Sunday night on 18.161. With QSB, it was between S5 and S9 to a low-hung inverted vee. A friend in NYC also heard the b'cast, so it wasn't a local, I don't suspect. Any ideas? - Peter W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
Here is a answer I sent to someone that email me: - Original Message Why... I think it is very wrong. It is true you can get on the Honor Roll and never work a station yourself. Do you think this is right? However, it is legal. The only thing you need to do is designate a control operator to operate your station and it is legal. This has to be documented. The control operator is limited to his/her privileges. It is okay for the FCC rules, but the DXCC rules should be changed. The DXCC awards is a personal thing... The DXCC awards states: This certifies that Bill Gallier, W4WX has had two way communicationsetc... It don't say This certifies anyone from this location has workedetc Bill - From: Bill To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your station and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in order? How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is legal. See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. Bill W4WX
Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to determine the specifics on this. I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you working your own equipment and somebody else. There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two. All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old age. :-[ 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote: >What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been >told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are >on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can >get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your station >and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in order? > >How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is >legal. > >See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. > >Bill W4WX -- 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions
What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself? Let someone else use your station and call and do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in order? How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is legal. See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site. Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:23 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo Hi folks, Previously I said I would update the list when I learned something about Gitmo operations. The "official" word, as has been mentioned by other list members, is that Gitmo is not listed in appendix 1 of part 97 as an area regulated by the FCC. The US Navy is the regulatory authority, and as such is the only entity to define what is "proper" operation from Gitmo. 73, Duane, WV2B"Nothing great is ever achieved without enthusiasm."- Ralph Waldo Emerson.
[DX-CHAT] T91AD
Anyone have any info on T91AD, worked on 30 mtrs evening of 4/3, not in QRZ. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Gitmo
Hi folks, Previously I said I would update the list when I learned something about Gitmo operations. The "official" word, as has been mentioned by other list members, is that Gitmo is not listed in appendix 1 of part 97 as an area regulated by the FCC. The US Navy is the regulatory authority, and as such is the only entity to define what is "proper" operation from Gitmo. 73, Duane, WV2B"Nothing great is ever achieved without enthusiasm."- Ralph Waldo Emerson.