Re: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS
Aw! So sorry to hear about Brutus! They are all so lucky to have you and Marcia taking such great care of them. I will hope for a healthier year for everyone's furry babies in 2012, a wish that I hope comes true!! Many Blessings to you Sherry~ L - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our wonderful volunteer Marcia who lost several of the Sids kids that she took home this past year. Many of us had multiple losses in 2011,lets hope for a healthier year for our precious fur kids. Many blessings to all of my friends and support here on the felv group.You are all a blessing to me too :) Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS
Hi Sherry, Please tell Marcia I am sorry for her loss, I have Brutus added to 2011's losses. On 1/2/2012 7:46 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our wonderful volunteer Marcia who lost several of the Sids kids that she took home this past year. Many of us had multiple losses in 2011,lets hope for a healthier year for our precious fur kids. Many blessings to all of my friends and support here on the felv group.You are all a blessing to me too :) Sherry -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV. One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least she'd lose her job if not her license, vet clinic staff on the other hand..argh Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Some jurisdictions accept a vet's letter that an animal is not well enough to receive rabies vaccinations. My vet did this when I had a dog with auto-immune issues. If that doesn't work, the vaccination does not have to be done at the same time as the neuter. My current cats are very health but I stretched their vaccinations and neutering out. More trips to the vet and more expensive but worth it to me. On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Gasper wrote: Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV. One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least she'd lose her job if not her license, vet clinic staff on the other hand..argh Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I started making it very plain that I did not want the vaccinations at that time..and still had a vet give a rabies shot to a very sick cat. When I expressed my displeasure, the tech informed me that they had never had any trouble with... Given that most cats in this county, including the little one in question, live outside, he would never know. On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Marcia wrote: My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
yes, i totally agree with you. they should definitelty be stretched out!! On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Some jurisdictions accept a vet's letter that an animal is not well enough to receive rabies vaccinations. My vet did this when I had a dog with auto-immune issues. If that doesn't work, the vaccination does not have to be done at the same time as the neuter. My current cats are very health but I stretched their vaccinations and neutering out. More trips to the vet and more expensive but worth it to me. On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Gasper wrote: Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV. One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least she'd lose her job if not her license, vet clinic staff on the other hand..argh Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On *Tue, 1/3/12, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.nethttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - *From:* dppl dpplhttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dppl1...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten* I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be* *healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him* *neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,* *claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered* *their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience?* *Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give* *vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the* *blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit* *when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.* -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** *I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a veterinarian, I am an advocate for the
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Vaccinating FeLV+ kittens is far more dangerous than neutering them. However, since they would be indoor cats anyway, no danger of impregnating any females, I don’t see any real reason for neutering them. If one considers that their lives would not be that long, if they already exhibit symptoms, the only thing that could happen is that they might start spraying and have very stinky urine. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl mailto:dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
However, if a cat is strictly indoors, one can easily get away with not giving them rabies vaccines.who would know? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV. One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least she'd lose her job if not her license, vet clinic staff on the other hand..argh Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
My veterinarian would NEVER vaccinate a cat that is even slightly under the weather.you are right, how would they know if cats have had any reactions From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I started making it very plain that I did not want the vaccinations at that time..and still had a vet give a rabies shot to a very sick cat. When I expressed my displeasure, the tech informed me that they had never had any trouble with... Given that most cats in this county, including the little one in question, live outside, he would never know. On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Marcia wrote: My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl mailto:dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I would recommend to run a blood work to make sure that everything looks good before the surgery - especially CBC portion as sometimes their WBC/RBC might be a little off - I don't know if it's conincidence or not - I do believe that stress sort of triggered the disease - my completely healthy cat Tsubomi died about a month after the surgery - I think she had lymphoma - but we did not even think of it as she was completely healthy - I was devastated. Hideyo Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:02:48 -0500 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery just fine regardless of their FelV status. Lorrie On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I had two females. One was treated as a regular cat, spayed, came home and was kept up and checked on regularly. She was fine, eating and.well fine when I checked her on the second/third night. She was dying in my arms the next morning. A very few months later I had another female, tested for everything, taken to another vet (she was not related to the first girl), spayed and given a lot more care. She came home, was kept up and was dying in my arms the third day. There was no evidence of any problems with either girl. And both vets are great but they are one person practices so they weren't around when I needed them the most. Two cats, two vets..it happens and we can't always predict it. Needless to say, I die inside every time I have a female spayed and have found a multiple vet practice that is a longer way from here and no girl comes home until after the third day. At least she will be near medical care if things go sour Things happen and sometimes there just isn't anything we can do. We do our very best and that is all we can do. On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:07 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: I would recommend to run a blood work to make sure that everything looks good before the surgery - especially CBC portion as sometimes their WBC/RBC might be a little off - I don't know if it's conincidence or not - I do believe that stress sort of triggered the disease - my completely healthy cat Tsubomi died about a month after the surgery - I think she had lymphoma - but we did not even think of it as she was completely healthy - I was devastated. Hideyo Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:02:48 -0500 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery just fine regardless of their FelV status. Lorrie On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I can't wait until they perfect non surgical sterilzation of animals. I suppose they will be other issues though as they always is with drugs, etc. But maybe not. This site http://www.spayusa.org/main_directory/04-sterilization_methods/nonsurgical/index.asp says they are working on non surgical sterilzation.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have ALWAYS wondered that! How would they know until the cat never wakes up. I bet it happens more than anyone knows! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:08 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: My veterinarian would NEVER vaccinate a cat that is even slightly under the weather…you are right, how would they know if cats have had any reactions From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I started making it very plain that I did not want the vaccinations at that time..and still had a vet give a rabies shot to a very sick cat. When I expressed my displeasure, the tech informed me that they had never had any trouble with... Given that most cats in this county, including the little one in question, live outside, he would never know. On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Marcia wrote: My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that, and for your cats too. How horrible. Marcia Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:44 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I had two females. One was treated as a regular cat, spayed, came home and was kept up and checked on regularly. She was fine, eating and.well fine when I checked her on the second/third night. She was dying in my arms the next morning. A very few months later I had another female, tested for everything, taken to another vet (she was not related to the first girl), spayed and given a lot more care. She came home, was kept up and was dying in my arms the third day. There was no evidence of any problems with either girl. And both vets are great but they are one person practices so they weren't around when I needed them the most. Two cats, two vets..it happens and we can't always predict it. Needless to say, I die inside every time I have a female spayed and have found a multiple vet practice that is a longer way from here and no girl comes home until after the third day. At least she will be near medical care if things go sour Things happen and sometimes there just isn't anything we can do. We do our very best and that is all we can do. On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:07 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: I would recommend to run a blood work to make sure that everything looks good before the surgery - especially CBC portion as sometimes their WBC/RBC might be a little off - I don't know if it's conincidence or not - I do believe that stress sort of triggered the disease - my completely healthy cat Tsubomi died about a month after the surgery - I think she had lymphoma - but we did not even think of it as she was completely healthy - I was devastated. Hideyo Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:02:48 -0500 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery just fine regardless of their FelV status. Lorrie On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I cannot imagine having uneutered cat in my house. The smell would get untolerable as they mature. I've always fixed my FeLV cats. The syress on them has to be worse than the surgery. I would not vaccinate for FVRCP. My one cat spiraled down hill quickly after the vaccine I've heard of othrs having the same problem. I would have the CBC done 1st. Beth GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Vaccinating FeLV+ kittens is far more dangerous than neutering them. However, since they would be indoor cats anyway, no danger of impregnating any females, I don’t see any real reason for neutering them. If one considers that their lives would not be that long, if they already exhibit symptoms, the only thing that could happen is that they might start spraying and have very stinky urine. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl mailto:dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests
Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this? Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests
Yes, they now make triple tests (heartworm/FIV?FELV) which are less accurate. Apparently their patent ran out. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this? Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests
Oh ok. Yes we used those when they 1st came out. They were inaccurate so we stopped using them. So I guess there is no alternative any more? Beth Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they now make triple tests (heartworm/FIV?FELV) which are less accurate. Apparently their patent ran out. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this? Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I agree with FeLV cats, but I never had an issue vaccinating my healthy FIV cat. I had to vaccinate him for FeLV as he lived with FeLV cats. I only gave him The FVRCP vaccine when I did a lot of rescue was worried about exposure since I was dealing with a lot of kittens from bad situations. Beth Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote: Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the cat is. I would just give rabies to a symptomatic b/c it is the law and no others, same with FIV. One would think that vets would be aware of it..even staff should be or they shouldn't be working atr a clinic. If pets were people that were killed b/c a nurse gave them the wrong vaccine it is involuntary manslaughter, at least she'd lose her job if not her license, vet clinic staff on the other hand..argh Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 4:48 PM My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
My vet will not operate if the animal does not have vaccinations up to date and if tey are running a fevor, have open wounds, etc. He treats the wounds, fevor first, then when they are healed, does surgery. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have ALWAYS wondered that! How would they know until the cat never wakes up. I bet it happens more than anyone knows! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:08 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: My veterinarian would NEVER vaccinate a cat that is even slightly under the weather…you are right, how would they know if cats have had any reactions From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I started making it very plain that I did not want the vaccinations at that time..and still had a vet give a rabies shot to a very sick cat. When I expressed my displeasure, the tech informed me that they had never had any trouble with... Given that most cats in this county, including the little one in question, live outside, he would never know. On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Marcia wrote: My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
If the neutering was going to affect him it would have been right away. My own cat acted fine one day (playing in the yard under supervision) at the emergency vet the next day with severe anemia. Cats are good at hiding illness. I know the anemia did not come on overnight. She was just hiding it until she couldn't hide it anymore. Don't beat yourself up over neutering your baby. That wasn't the problem. It was just this horrible virus. Beth Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: I agree, but admit, it had me thinking twice. It's heartbreaking that he was fine one day and on death's door the next :( I miss him so! Bless all the sick furry babies... L - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is one of the complications of FelV. On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests
The patent ran out so i assumed others were producing them more cheaply but I don't know. That's what happens with human medications... On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh ok. Yes we used those when they 1st came out. They were inaccurate so we stopped using them. So I guess there is no alternative any more? Beth Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they now make triple tests (heartworm/FIV?FELV) which are less accurate. Apparently their patent ran out. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this? Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
