FVWM: Fvwm in Ubuntu?
Just curious whether anybody uses fvwm in Ubuntu, specifically how to get all the automatic things that gnome does (at least I think it's gnome) in Ubuntu, it has various programs that show in panels, e.g. system update, network status, pidgin shows status there etc. I have read the Ubuntu docs so I know how to set it up so that fvwm is used but it doesn't talk about these other things (I think most of them are more gnome specific then Ubuntu specific) Should I be looking at how to make fvwm and gnome work together? Or? TIA, erik
FVWM: when will fvwm go openGL?
ok so it's kinda ridiculous question but given that sort of soon desktop will go openGL the window manager will have to do the same - will fvwm do the transition? erik
Re: FVWM: Fvwm forum replacing the mailing list
seventh guardian wrote: Hi. I've been in the mailing list for some time (both fvwm and fvwm-workers), and also in other mailing lists. It really fills my inbox, as I believe it does to most of you.. The lists are already separated in two subjects, general and development, and it indeed helps us to organize things. But I believe that having a forum would help to further organize things. For those that are interested in the latest CVS snapshots there could be a place where they are anounced, and for those who just want to ask for a feature or inquire about a bug, there would be sections for that too. Also general questions like how do I do that could be in yet another section. That way if someone wants to help he wouldn't need to scroll thru lots of incomming mails to find the one that says how do I do this mixed up with please add that feature and cvs migo. I currently use gmail, and it really helps to filter things out. But it's still difficult, so I can only imagine the trouble it is now for those with less robust mail tools. Or worst, for the devs.. Currently fvwm lair has a great forum, wich could be used for this. This is my suggestion, please feel free to criticize (constructivelly err... so you are suggesting to replace the media that I can view using whatever my preferred method to view it (using email clients, with search, threading, folders and virtual folders etc.) with some predefined user interface of web forum??? Well, if the forums send emails too it might be acceptable :-) maybe you need a better mail client:-) erik
Re: FVWM: how to define any key
Xue Ruini wrote: hello, everyone As we know, pressing on the Windows key brings up the StartMenu in Microsoft Windows boxes. Windows keys can be used in fvwm, however, they are defined as modifiers. That is to say, you can bind actions to them. I do not know whether any key exists in fvwm or not, or any other trick to bind a certain action to the windows keys. for example :) Key ANY KEY A N 3 Maxmize usually the win key is already bound to some key (not a modifier), use xev to figure out what it is. If xev does not show anything configure your keyboard. Keyobard configuration depends on distro but one way or another you need to figure out what to use in X config file which is usually /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Look for section that looks somewhat like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Logitech Cordless iTouch Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 # OptionXkbModel logicordless Option XkbModel itouch Option XkbLayout us EndSection and choose your XkbModel appropriately (see files in /etc/X11/xkb) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: How to bind other key as Modifiers?
jianqiu wrote: I refer to man page and got this Key [(window)] Keyname Context Modifiers Function Key F11 A SCM WindowList now how to bind other key rather than Alt Shift Shift , I try Key F1A Super_L WindowList but fail. use xev to find out what are the keysyms, use xmodmap to change modifiers (or set up your keyboard using xkb - see /etc/X11/xkb/) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: FVWM as a Display Manager
Stephen Dennison wrote: Out of curiosity has anyone ever thought about using fvwm in place of a display manager? Have any developers thought about creating an fvwm config that would act as a display manager, or implementing a display manager that is fvwm driven? Basically I just want a display manager that will allow either user selection from a menu or a user name and password entry, but I dont' want to have to rely on gnome or kde under-pinings. I was thinking that I could probably just start up a stripped down window session with fvwm and remove all of the default key-bindings. (Or maybe start up a non-privelaged user account that doesn't have a shell entry and have it present the menu...) I could then decorate it with all the eye candy and functionality that gdm provides, but I'm not sure how to go about replacing the currently running fvwm session with an fvwm session running as a different user. So I guess in all of my rambling my question isn't really fvwm specific, but it does relate to fvwm. How do I create a new fvwm session from a currently running fvwm session with different user privelages? ? if you don't want to use kdm or gdm you can use xdm, that's plain X (default is kinda ugly but you can configure the look). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: New Debian package, second try
Adam Sjøgren wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:37:25 -0600, Manoj wrote: I am hoping that the debianistas on this list can take the package for a spin; it is scheduled to head into Debian proper at the end of the week. Works fine for me, upgrading from a locally compiled/installed 2.5.7 - after putting my old system.fvwm2rc in ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc I'm not getting anti-aliased fonts (I am in, for instance, Mozilla and Gnumeric; I didn't with my homebrew 2.5.7 either, though). AFAIK anti-aliasing fonts in applications is not related to WM erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and other key issue
Peter Münster wrote: Hello, after an update from SuSE-Linux-8.2 to 9.0, that is from fvwm-2.4.15 to 2.5.7, the following strange things happen: - the line Key BackSpace A CM Some action has no more effect. - when pressing the Alt-key at last (after Shift and Ctrl), the action of the line Key LeftA SCM Action with Alt shows the same action as the line Key LeftA SC Action without Alt But when pressing the Alt-key at first, and then Shift and Ctrl, the action is ok. this looks more like X server issue (xev might help). also, ctrl-alt-backspace is default key combination to exit X so it doesn't seem like a good shortcut to use. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: customizable .. very much at fvwm.org, how about?
calmar wrote: ... maybe when someone tries out fvwm in it's default settings, he won't be impressed. (The same, I was also reading at Suzanne Skinners' site when I remember properly). So something what let's him know, that there is MUCH do to with that default setup. That he won't just check it out for 10 seconds, and leave then, because the default setup is NOT impressive compared to other wm's, It yeah, it hides the real fvwm very well:-) looks not 'modern' at least IMO, and new users really can't see the power, nor obviously will suspect what they could do with it. Actually I like fvwm because I can build my very own setup + it has about every feature (also eyecandy ones even) what others wm's `are', or it's possible to implement it. That 'build your own wm' I don't think you can do shaped titles/borders, all the borders are the same etc. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Binding 3 mystery keys
Dominik Vogt wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:36:31AM +0200, stu wrote: Hi everyone I'm running fvwm 2.5.8, XFree86 4.3.0, Debian unstable. I have a 106 key keyboard. There are 3 keys(top row, to right of function keys) which I wish to bind. There appears to be no entry in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h for any of these keys. The keys have symbols on them - my interpretation of them is that they represent a 'No lock' key, a 'sleep' key (symbol of a moon) and an 'alarm' key. Does anyone have any advice as to how would I go about getting the Keyname of these keys(or creating ones) so I could then bind them to my desired functions? According to the xev output below, they have no names attached to them yet. To be able to bind anything to them, you need to assign KeySyms to them first. You can use xkeycaps to find a keyboard layout that activates them and then let it generate an Xmodmap file for it. Or you can do that manually with the xmodmap command. you can also look for the given keyboard model and if you can't find one create a new one, it's fairly simple (see xkb, config files in /etc/X11, probably, depends on distro) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: key to prelude a fvwm command
Frank Gruellich wrote: Hello, I go now for several weeks with fvwm (now 2.5.8) and really love it. But I'm still a beginner (I've said it, okay?). I'm used to operate my pc with keyboard mostly. Now I'm confronted with the lack of keys. Several times it happens, that I strike a programs internal hotkey and realize immediatelly, that I bound a fvwm command to it. As I don't know, what programs I will use (let alone, which hotkeys they use) in future times, I would like to remedy this problem at all. My former 'window manager' (screen) has a neat feature: any screen command is introduced by a special escape key (C-a by default). E.g. I use C-a to get my windowlist, C-a C-c to get a new window and so on. Can I do something similar in fvwm? Any resources where somebody had done something like this? if this is a PC (or at least you are using a PC keyboard) you can use win key, AFAIK no apps use it. e.g. win key + arros move between virtual screens, win key + delete closes the window etc. use xev to find out what your win key is (mine is Super_L) and use that or use xmodmap to make it whatever you want. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Grabbing window edges and handles
Shay Hill wrote: Does fvwm have any mechanism for making the grabbing of window edges and handles any easier? MS Windows, for instance, has a barbell shaped cursor which allows a little bit of play when grabbing an edge. I believe that Afterstep will snap the cursor to a window border. I find it convenient to bind resize to right click/drag on title (and have no or almost no borders). another option is to bind resize to click/drag anywhere in the window with win key modifier (use xev to find out which modifier win key is). yet another option is to use non standard button, but that only works with some version of fvwm (not sure about the details, there's some problem in how X processes the mouse clicks) - I used to have (my favourite setup): side button click anywhere in the window - rise/lower, side button drag (move) anywhere in the window - move, side button with win key modifier drag - resize (it doesn't work with current stable version of fvwm, might work with development version). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Transparency - almost done
Ryan Daly wrote: Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Do you mean like this (the screenshot is one year old): http://fvwm.sf.net/tmp/migo-desktop-20021122.png btw there is a transparent theme for gkrellm:-) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: events on root window in fvwm/nautilus (gnome)
Thomas Adam wrote: --- Filip Hroch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, [..snip..] There is a way to not propagate events from fvwm to nautilus or to mask the xroot nautilus window for fvwm as a plain xroot window? Is this question for fvwm comunity people or for nautilus developers? (Or there is a another file manager for gnome2 with support of icons on the desktop? :-)) ROX-Filer can have a similar problem. What happens is that Nautilus is taking over control of the root-window. There is probably a setting in there (as there is for ROX-Filer) to pass mouse bindings back to the underlying WM. IIRC there is a setting in nautilus about desktop (root window) control erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
Remko Troncon wrote: debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the development version as well, but under a different name (such as they do with a lot of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM development versions in Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the only package i still have to install from source. that's true. did you try to ask maintainer? erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
stu wrote: Hi everyone Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Emacs-like key sequences
Dan Espen wrote: Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario Domg=F6rgen wrote: Hallo list! Will emacs-like key sequences find their way in fvwm somewhen? I would really like to see such bindings like Mod4 m s for maximize to screen and Mod4 m v for maxmize vertically... you can specify any keybindings you want... all of them are = specified in config files. He's asking for key sequences, not just a single key with a modifier. oops, didn't notice. but IIRC there's a way in X windows to specify multi-key events - that might make it impossible to use those keys as separate keys though (so emacs might not work) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Emacs-like key sequences
Mario Domgörgen wrote: Hallo list! Will emacs-like key sequences find their way in fvwm somewhen? I would really like to see such bindings like Mod4 m s for maximize to screen and Mod4 m v for maxmize vertically... you can specify any keybindings you want... all of them are specified in config files. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: How do you shutdown to power down the computer?
jon kersten wrote: Hello, I just installed Red Hat 5.2. Logged on to root. typed xdm, got the log in screen. Logged in as root again. I now can not seem to shut down the computer. ctrlaltdel doesn't work. Shutdown -h now in the term window doesn't seem to work, it just goes back to the xwindow log in screen. Is it safe to power down at this point? I have FVWM2 window manager. Thanks in advance, I have searched all 1020 pages of the SAMS book Red Hat Linux Unleashed and 861 pages of QUE's Using Unix. shutdown -h now man shutdown for more info ctrl-alt-del usually works only from text console (not from X windows), use ctrl-alt-F1 to get to text console (usually F1 - F6 are text consoles, F7 is your X windows session) you have better chances for good responses in more general linux mailing list/newsgroup, possibly specific to your distro. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: question...
Tabetha Boyajian wrote: i am a beginner trying to use fvwm. when i start it up, a background flashes (a pic of a galaxy) then it changes to a splattered gray background. how does one go about changing this gray background to something they like better, or the previous one that dissappears in a flash? I like chbg, unrelated to fvwm, you don't have to have your WM to change the root window picture. There are other programs as well (check your distro or freshmeat), you can start any of them from X startup scripts (probably ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession) there's also FvwmBacker module that makes it possible to have different backgrounds on different virtual screens erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
Fernando Poza wrote: Hi there! I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. there's fvwm 2.4.15-2 in debian unstable you might want to contact current maintainer if you need/want 2.4.16 erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: window list does not make chosen window active
I have the window list sort of working but it does not make the window active, no matter what I do the previous window remains active. I tried to use both keys and mouse to select item from window list. here are what I think re relevant parts of my config file Key TabA MWindowList Root c c Key TabA M2WindowList Root c c ... Mouse 3 R A WindowList system: fvwm 2.4.0 freeBSD 4.8, 20030410 build any ideas? TIA! erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: extra mouse button cannot be used
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 02:13:27AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: ... buttons 1 - 5 work as expected in fvwm but when I try to bind something to side button (6) it doesn't work and I get this error message: [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR Illegal mouse button in line 6 WTSFI0123456789 N rrrFunction ... In versions before 2.5.x this sometimes worked, but not reliably and only by coincidence. 2.4.x: Buttons 1 to 5 fully supported Buttons 6 and above not supported at all 2.5.x: Buttons 1 to 5 fully supported Buttons 6 to 9 partially supported (as far as X allows) Buttons 10 and above not supported at all wow! I had it working before, I think it was 2.2.x, I thought it's not a big deal, a button is a button is a ... any chances it will be supported in 2.4? what do you mean by partially supported? can you bind functions to click/doubleclick/drag in 2.5? [any docs on this?] thanks, erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: extra mouse button cannot be used
I have a logitech mouse with four buttons and a wheel. all the buttons work when tested using xev: left button: button 1 pressing wheel: button 2 right button: button 3 turning wheel:buttons 45 side button: button 6 buttons 1 - 5 work as expected in fvwm but when I try to bind something to side button (6) it doesn't work and I get this error message: [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR Illegal mouse button in line 6 WTSFI0123456789 N rrrFunction here are relevant lines from the line from config file: Mouse 6 WTSFI0123456789 N testFunction DestroyFunc testFunction AddToFunc testFunction + M Move + M Raise + C RaiseLower if I use e.g. 2 instead of 6 there's no error message and it works as expected. fvwm verion is 2.4.15 (debian unstable) I used to have the button 6 working before, I don't remember which fvwm version... (I don't have that config file anymore but I don't remember doing anything special) any ideas? TIA! erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: no borders for inactive windows
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 00:30 31 Mar 2003, Klaus Umbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:41:00PM +0200, martin sepulveda wrote: | for many years i've used (and still use) borderless windows only. | | well, borders for active windows are usefull to resize them manualy (if | usefull - normaly fvwm does that for me) Personally I find aiming at borders very tedious. I have alt-mouse-1 bound to Resize in the Window context, and no borders at all. Aiming is _much_ easier (indeed, with focus-follows-mouse much of the time I don't need to aim at all because the mouse is already there because I'm thinking about that window already). I used to have the side button on logitech mouse reserved for 'whole window' operations (click = raise/lower, drag = move, drag with window key = resize) another way: find right click in title and drag tobe useful for resizing. having to hit the borders is pretty annoying... even more so when you have auto-raise:-) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: using FvwmButtons without fvwm?
does FvwmButton depend on fvwm in a way that would make it impossible to use it without fvwm? I understand that some code changes would be needed since now it's fvwm module, my question is how much it depends on fvwm for its functionality. any pointers to where to rtfm appreciated, TIA, erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Everything stops when moving around windows
Dominik Vogt wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:01:57PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Mikhael Goikhman wrote: On 30 Nov 2002 15:52:05 +0100, Tor Stormwall wrote: When I for example play a movie and at the same time moving a window the movie stops, so do the rest of the screen. Everything stops completely. After I've moved the window to my wanted location everything works fine again. The problem occurs not only when playing movies but all the times I move something on the screen. Do I need a special configuration or something? I'm using the latest stable release of fvwm2 on a NetBSD 1.6 machine. The following should solve your problem: OpaqueMoveSize 200 The outline move, although a bit faster, grabs X, so don't use it if you run real-time updating applications (video, monitors). does outline move have to grab X? it seems like most evil thing (in context given context:-), turning nice multitasking system into a one task dos piece of crap, even if it's for few moments only (mostly). The reason is mainly backward compatibility. We could also draw the wire frame into separate windows and fill it with a pattern that gives a good contrast. But we could not have the current Xor effect. :-) considering how ugly the xor effect looks it funny that it's (part of) a reason why the nasty grab X is used by fvwm the move could be excusable but the bigger problem is placement of new windows - if you have manual placement, the new window (e.g. browser popup add) stops the whole system (well, all X programs) from working. that's quite nasty. IIRC the placement of new windows always uses outline so your workaround wouldn't work. [yes, I know I can disable popups:-) that's not the point] In Windoze, they have solved the problem by simply aborting moving/resizing when a new window appears. Personally I wonder why people want manual placement at all. I think it is a big nuisance. yes it is but why wouldn't it use opaque window when given window qualifies for opaque move? OT: am I the only one (ignorant of details of X internals:-) wishing grabbing the server was not introduced at all? Sometimes it can hardly be avoided, but I agree that grabbing the server for more than a few milliseconds is not such a good idea. The whole grabbing implementation (server, keyboard, mouse) is flawed and a rich source of problems. It is definitely overused in fvwm and probably in many other window managers and applications too. it looks like something in gnome apps is doing it too, after double click (not sure if it's still a problem but few months ago a double click in gnome app froze everything (all X programs, I could still switch to anoth virtual console) for about 10 seconds) - VERY annoying. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: vanishing WindowList
when I hit the keyboard shortcut that brings up the WindowList appears but as soon as I let go Alt (part of keyboard shortcut) the WindowList disappears (therefore I cannot use it to switch focus to another window). not sure when this behaviour started, some time ago it worked properly (I hit keyboard shortcut, the WindowList appears and stays on the screen until I hit esp or number letter ...) it works properly when invoked via mouseclick or via popup menu. system: debian unstable (and default debian fvwm config) fvwm 2.4.10 the only relevant config items (as far as I can tell, I grepped for WindowList)): in menu definition: + Alt-F4: Window List WindowList shortcuts: Mouse 3 R A WindowList Key F4AMWindowList any ideas? (I just re-read WindowList part of manpage, didn't find a clue) TIA! erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Key bindings not working
Tim Hanson wrote: My root window key bindings have never worked. This is the set of bindings currently shipped with SuSE, with the exception of PointerKey numLock? see faq erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Windows without borders
Dan Espen wrote: Chris Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to launch programs withouth title bars and borders? Some applications don't look right without them, like XMMS. I guess you mean, some applications don't look right with them. For xmms, use: Style xmms NoTitle, Handlewidth 0 xmms also allows you to set it in its own preferences, fvwm honors it... erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: moving xmms around the screen
Denis Perelyubskiy wrote: Hello, I think I had a configuration where I could move xmms around the screen by simply clicking in its window and moving it. This is with an Easy Move option turned on. isn't this function of xmms, independent of window manager? btw I found the fourth mouse button to be perfect for this - I configure it to move windows or resize windows with windows key pressed... erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: 'No such key' for valid keys?
when starting fvwm 2.4.8 (debian unstable) on vncserver 3.3.3r2 I get bunch of errors even though the keys are valid, as verified by xev and also by fvwm - they actually work! here are the error messages: [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86Standby [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioMute [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioLowerVolume [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioRaiseVolume [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioPlay [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioStop [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioPrev [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86AudioNext [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86Mail [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86Search [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86HomePage [FVWM][ParseBinding]: ERROR No such key: XF86Start here's example of config (all the lines are like this one, just different key and different text after -T): Key XF86AudioNext A A Exec exec xterm -T next and it gets even stranger: when I run xev (just run it, not hitting those keys while it's running) the messages disappear - next time I start fvwm on the same server it works! yes, I tried to restart fvwm before I run xev, the messages are there everytime it is started, until I run xev. these bogus messages are NOT printed when using X 4.x (XFree86) any ideas? TIA erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Re: planning the 10th fvwm birthday event
Dominik Vogt wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:10:34AM +0200, Riswick, J.G.A. van wrote: yes, are there any special features planned for 2.6? Other than what we do anyway? No. What exactly would a special feature be? All menus being decorated with a birthday cake in the backgroung on that day? shaped windows decorations? erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Re: planning the 10th fvwm birthday event
Dominik Vogt wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:10:34AM +0200, Riswick, J.G.A. van wrote: yes, are there any special features planned for 2.6? Other than what we do anyway? No. What exactly would a special feature be? All menus being decorated with a birthday cake in the backgroung on that day? shaped windows decorations? erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Geometry
Johan Svedberg wrote: ... + I Exec exec xbuffy -geometry x-0+270 -bg black -fg white -fn 5x7 -boxfile $HOME/.xbuffyrc -fill What should I set x to if I want it to be all the way down to the buttom of the screen except for the last 133 pixels? Maybe that can't be done, or? -133 (it's y) see man X for more info on geometry options. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: What is the history of FVWM?
Charles Hines wrote: DV == Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DV ((Chuck, are you still lurking? Can you fill in the gaps before DV 1998?)) I am still lurking, yes, but not sure how much I can fill in as my memory is getting a little fuzzy in my old age...I'll see what I can do... :) ... pre-2.0-patchlevel-33 if I remember correctly. fuzzy indeed:-) ... DV After that there are plans for a version 3.0 that would change a DV lot of the syntax and introduce fantastic new features, but that's DV too far from now. Ah the future...scary and exciting... :) Perhaps it'd be worthy of a page on the FVWM website too? DV That is definitely going to be done for fvwm's birthday. this definitely has to go to a fvwm webpage (just my 2 haliere, in case you had any doubts:-) erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 01:58 17 Aug 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 12:02:45PM +, Saku Sammakko wrote: | A humble suggestion for pager: | [... app thumbnails in pager ...] | I'm afrai, but that feature cannot be written in X in a fashion | that would be actually usable. When a window is not currently | visible, its contents may not be anywhere in memory, so the pager | cannot find out what to draw in the mini window. And even if the | window is on screen, this would need ridiculous amounts of memory | and take so long to update that nobody would use it. I'm sorry to | say this, but X simply doesn't provide an interface for background | drawing. I think E (or Evolution? I forget) has such a pager. yes, enlightenment I just started E and it seems to be updated with small delay (seconds), quite impressive. Another nice (as in good looking, not sure how useful it is) feature is the zooming of the window in pager when the mouse is over it. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: What is the history of FVWM?
Andy Arbon wrote: Hello, I was having a discussion with a mate about our respective choices of window manager and it occurred to me that I know very little about where FVWM came from.. Who started it? When? What was it based on? I'd find info on this sort of thing quite interesting if anyone knows anything about it. Perhaps it'd be worthy of a page on the FVWM website too? hey! slow down! next thing you'll be asking what does 'f' stand for! erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Direct Draw?
David wrote: Hello, I hope someone else is also asking for direct draw fvwm. As it is now, when I start X11 in a cygwin shell, the xwindow comes up and the fvwm2 comes up. However, when I quit the cygwin shell, the window manager goes away and so do its child xterms. It used to be that the X11 root when away but now it survives. I hope an fvwm2 upgrade will enable the window manager to survive loss of the cygwin shell parent. David ps. Or, is there a workaround? it depends on how you start fvwm. some shells leave the kids running, some kill them (it might be configurable). if you want the program to run after you exit the shell regardles of which shell you are running use nohup (see man nohup). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm2 dropped from Red Hat Linux!
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 02:11 05 Jul 2002, parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], | wrote E Frank Ball thusly... | RedHat also dropped tin and xv starting with 7.1, two other | programs I can't live without. | i can't imagine how could anyone to drop xv if it had been regular | part of an os install/distribution previously! [...] xv is shareware - I don't think RedHat were really allowed to ship it. debian dropped it too, there's some problem with the licence... erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: front key dies?
Louis Rayman wrote: Hi! I'm running: FVWM version 2.4.6 compiled on Apr 23 2002 at 09:11:36 with support for: XPM, GNOME WM hints, Shape, SM on Solaris 8, 2 monitors, no xinerama. Every so often, fvwm stops responding to key presses, like alt-tab or front (F15). I can't find any pattern as to when it happens. any ideas?? it's probably numlock (or some other modifier), check the faq erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Graphical configuration tool for FVWM
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: ... Just think about this. Some statistics about FVWM. We have as of now: * 166 commands (and the number grows) * 199 Style options (and the number grows) * 54 MenuStyle options * a lot of TitleStyle/ButtonStyle/BorderStyle options * 33 window circulation options * 37 WindowList options * each Colorset has 23 options (probably 30+ in 2.6.x) * 28 modules, some are very configurable with dozens of options each * 13 menu placement hints, 7 bug-options, 24 cursor contexts * 26 binding contexts, 2^8 modifiers and so on Now, consider a user configuration that includes dozens of global feel lines (Style *), many individual Style patterns, several MenuStyle patterns, dozens of colorsets, dozens of fonts, dozens of menus, dozens of functions, dozens of keyboard, mouse and stroke bindings. Window decorations is another endless story. Now, modules. Even if a user is limited to one FvwmButtons with one FvwmIconMan and FvwmPager swallowed and several other applications swallowed, there are still millions of combinations to create such FvwmButtons panel. and user defined functions - how would one add functions in gui tool? and make gui tool aware of them? the tool would have to be something like delphi/c++builder/visual basic programming environment. not impossible but it would be a BIG project... erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm asked me to report this
here's what I've got after going to a page requiring authorization (I think the window it refers to is the login/password dialog). [FVWM][GetWindowSizeHints]: WARNING Authorization Dialog window 0x640008b has broken (max_height) size hints Please report this to fvwm-workers@fvwm.org hint override = 0 flags = 23f min_width = 307, min_height = 177, max_width = 307, max_height = 152 width_inc = 1088235872, height_inc = 307 min_aspect = 177/487, max_aspect = 436/487 base_width = 436, base_height = 793 win_gravity = 1 I am not subscriped to fvwm so if you need further info please CC me or contact me directly. erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
