date:20060621


On 6/21/06, Mike Markowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ok, Norberto.  Looks like the (or, a) problem is initctl.  The named
pipe is missing...or is it supposed to be created during boot?  I got


No, /dev/initctl is a named pipe created when init runs...



   title  Gentoo 2.6.17
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /kernel-2.6.17-gentoo root=/dev/sda1


Um, isn't /dev/sda1 your /boot filesystem?  Shouldn't this be /dev/sda3?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable


On 6/16/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and usb-serial converter devices, but I have never used any of them
so I need recommendations on alternative serial (rs232C) hardware.


I have a USB to RS232 converter that I used to connect to a router.
It works great.  So I wouldn't worry about finding a laptop with a
built-in serial port.

If you want to know the exact make/model of my converter, I can let
you know on Saturday when I get back home.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)


On 6/21/06, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

chroot. OK, I definately stand currected. But I was pretty sure I once
did this from initramfs. But that was admittedly back in the 2.6.10
days, I think.


Yeah, I did it too! ;->  Worked great until I tried to use
fbsplash/bootsplash, which did a 'mount --move'  as part of it's
setup.

Cheers,
-Richard
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[gentoo-user] Update: mencoder: error encoding, following howto

Following the suggestion of some people here, I tried the following items, one 
at a time, and tried to encode again, and the symptoms never changed.

 a) Remerge x264-svn without threads support
 b) Remerge mplayer without custom-cflags or cpudetection CFLAGS

I did find a forum entry (not forums.gentoo.org) which talked about this exact 
same issue, which seemed to be related to x264 itself. Unfortunately the 
thread ended in February 2005, and the site won't let me get further 
information from that user...

This is a real pain, I am looking for ideas. I am not looking for different 
tools, I have spent two weeks on this and am sick of bouncing between a dozen 
tools.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted /boot

2006-06-21 Thread Mike Markowski

Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Mike Markowski wrote:
>> Any ideas?  "Bueller?  Bueller?"
> 
> Please post:
> 
> $ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
> $ ls -l /boot
> $ sudo fdisk -l
> $ ls -l /dev/console
> $ ls -l /dev/initctl
> $ ls -l /dev/null 

Ok, Norberto.  Looks like the (or, a) problem is initctl.  The named
pipe is missing...or is it supposed to be created during boot?  I got
the info below after 'chrooting' from a livecd boot.  I don't know what
the pipe is for, so time to start reading.  But I wanted to get this
posted soon as I could.

Thanks,
Mike

livecd / # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

   timeout 10
   default 0

   title  Gentoo 2.6.17
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /kernel-2.6.17-gentoo root=/dev/sda1

   # Change the colors.
   title Change the colors
   color light-green/brown blink-red/blue

livecd / # fdisk -l

   Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
   255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
   Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sda1   1   5   40131   83  Linux
   /dev/sda2   6 249 1959930   82  Linux swap /
Solaris
   /dev/sda3 250972976148100   83  Linux

   Disk /dev/sdb: 1040 MB, 1040187392 bytes
   32 heads, 32 sectors/track, 1984 cylinders
   Units = cylinders of 1024 * 512 = 524288 bytes

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sdb1   *   11984 10157926  FAT16

livecd / # ls -l /boot/

   total 2218
   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   1 Jun 20 20:09 boot -> .
   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   36667 Jun 19 19:32 config-2.6.17-gentoo
   drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 Jun 20 20:06 grub
   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2208825 Jun 20 19:39 kernel-2.6.17-gentoo
   drwx-- 2 root root   12288 Jun 20 20:07 lost+found

livecd / # ls -l /dev/console

   crw--- 1 root tty 5, 1 Feb 13 19:03 /dev/console
   livecd / # ls -l /dev/initctl
   /bin/ls: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
   livecd / # ls -l /dev/null
   crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Feb 13 19:03 /dev/null

livecd / #
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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 18:03, Nick Rout wrote:
> dvdrip is in portage and is an excellent tool for backing up DVD.

It looked that way to me, however in every test I tried, after ripping it 
always said only X out of a total of Y frames were ripped, and it was always 
somewhere around 20 - 30% less. Did that on two systems. In short, it looked 
good to me but I gave up on it after fighting with it for a week.

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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)

2006-06-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:51:51 -0700
"Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My final comments on that bug are based on the attached email that I
> received from Andrew Morton that made it clear that Al Viro was
> opposed to pivot_root being used from an initramfs.  (BTW, viro's
> comments are not very polite, but you have to expect such directness
> from kernel hackers!)
> 
> Note, be sure we are talking about an initramfs here, not an initrd.
> From an initrd it is still possible and supported to use pivot_root.

OK, I have to apologize. I totally missed that you were exec'ing
chroot. OK, I definately stand currected. But I was pretty sure I once
did this from initramfs. But that was admittedly back in the 2.6.10
days, I think. Of course in this case /sbin/init also gets PID 1.

-hwh
(happy to not have been the one complaining to the kernel devs :-) and
also forgetting to send attachments. I need a plugin that saves me from
doing this, e.g. searching for the word "attachment" and complaining if
there isn't one...)
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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip: significant frame loss during rip

2006-06-21 Thread Nick Rout


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:29:26 -0400
fire-eyes wrote:

> On Wednesday 21 June 2006 04:00, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > I see this error, but usually near the start of the rip. I get rid of it
> > by setting "Grab subtitle preview images" to No.
> 
> Hm. I always see it at the end, and it makes no difference what I have the 
> grab subtitle setting at. Thanks for the reply :)
> 

Try here:

http://www.exit1.org/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=dvdrip-users&restrict=&exclude=&words=%22It+seems+that+transcode+ripping+stopped+short.%22&method=and&format=builtin-long&sort=score

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Copying PS/2 game CDs

2006-06-21 Thread Teresa and Dale

Daniel da Veiga wrote:

> On 6/21/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> thing.  I'm not going to sell the copies.
>
>
> Well, they really don't care about that...
>

Yea, they just want to make us keep replacing the ones that get
scratched.  It's just a bonus for the "security" of making copies.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using unencrypted wireless lan


On 6/20/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello!

To do some testing, I'd like to use my WLAN in unencrypted
mode, ie. no WEP, no WPA. How would I configure that in
my /etc/conf.d/net?


essid_eth1="fishnet"
mode_eth1="managed"

But I think you really want to put this in /etc/conf.d/wireless
instead of /e/c.d/net, depending upon your version of baselayout.
Also read /etc/conf.d/wireless.example.

HTH,
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)


On 6/21/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4857

My final comments on that bug are based on the attached email


-1,000,000 points for not including the email...

-Richard
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 viro: 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.13-rc5/2.6.13-rc5-mm1/broken-out/pivot_root-circular-reference-fix-2.patch
 WTF?
 -EWTFWTF?
 akpm: patch is an utter bullshit
 akpm: we are _NOT_ allowing to change namespace root
 not with pivot_root(), not with anything else
 moreover, I distinctly remember having such check in sys_pivot_root()
 where the hell had it gone?
 viro: what about depricate pivot_root since it's the source of so much 
angst? (i used it myself and im not sure how to avoid it here but there must be 
a way)
* viro goes to look through history
 LARTs are needed, apparently
 or -einval for pivot_root on rootfs (if thats detectable)
 of course it is
--> plai_ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has joined #kernel
 sigh...
 what we should do is prohibit any mount activity on detached vfsmounts, 
*period*
 akpm: please, consider that patch in its current form strongly vetoed
 viro: if you restructure vfsmount trees to not depend on namespaces, 
there's no need for that restriction
 viro: OK.  You were cc'ed on it a lot at the time..
 akpm: -*-Mutt: /var/spool/mail/viro [Msgs:23748 New:21604 Del:83 Post:31 
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)


On 6/21/06, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700

Hm, I'm pretty sure that it is well possible to pivot_root from an
initramfs. Isn't that the whole point of pivot_root? But you may be
right that it is not possible for NFS mounts, I never tried that before.


http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4857

My final comments on that bug are based on the attached email that I
received from Andrew Morton that made it clear that Al Viro was
opposed to pivot_root being used from an initramfs.  (BTW, viro's
comments are not very polite, but you have to expect such directness
from kernel hackers!)

Note, be sure we are talking about an initramfs here, not an initrd.

From an initrd it is still possible and supported to use pivot_root.



In fact, the approach you took is weak. /sbin/init wouldn't run as PID
1 in this case which is bad for the situation that the calling script
(which _has_ PID 1) dies. The kernel would recognize this and reboot
(and/or panic, not sure). To avoid this, one has to exec the init from
the script.


No, this works perfectly.  I use it every time I boot my kernel, and
my init *is* PID 1.

The "exec ./bin/chroot" part replaces the shell executing the /init
script with the chroot command, so chroot then becomes PID 1.  Chroot
then does an exec of ./sbin/init so that init becomes PID 1.



So basically it boils down to this /init in the initramfs:

#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/sbin
modprobe supermightyrootfsprovidingmodule && \
  mount -t blahfs /dev/whereitis /mnt/stagetwo && \
  cd /mnt/stagetwo && \
  pivot_root . /mnt/initramfs || reboot -f
exec /sbin/init


Be warned that if you do this, and then you try to "mount --move"
anything, your kernel will probably hang.

But again, in recent kernels, pivot_root *should* be returning -EINVAL
if you do this.  Indeed I just checked my 2.6.16 sources, and the code
that returns EINVAL in sys_pivot_root for unattached mounts is still
there:

   error = -EINVAL;
   if (user_nd.mnt->mnt_root != user_nd.dentry)
   goto out2; /* not a mountpoint */
   if (user_nd.mnt->mnt_parent == user_nd.mnt)
   goto out2; /* not attached */
   if (new_nd.mnt->mnt_root != new_nd.dentry)
   goto out2; /* not a mountpoint */
   if (new_nd.mnt->mnt_parent == new_nd.mnt)
   goto out2; /* not attached */

So unless your the pivot_root program is doing something other than
sys_pivot_root(), I don't see how this can possibly work on a recent
kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 / setxkbmap masked

2006-06-21 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Hans Schou wrote:
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.0.1"
> have been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete
> your request:
> - x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.0.2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
> For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> !!!(dependency required by "x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1"
> [ebuild])
>
> I then tried to remove setxkbmap:

No, you musn't remove setxkbmap, you must unmask it:
echo "x11-apps/setxkbmap ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords

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[gentoo-user] xorg-x11 / setxkbmap masked

2006-06-21 Thread Hans Schou

Hi

I have several Gentoo installations which works fine but this one id broken.

When I do a:
  emerge xorg-x11
I get:

Calculating dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.0.1" have been
masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.0.2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by "x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1" [ebuild])

I then tried to remove setxkbmap:
--- Couldn't find setxkbmap to unmerge.
>>> unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

The worst problem I have is that I can not do a "emerge world" as this
gives the same error.

What can I do? Remove xorg-x11 and install it again?


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Re: [gentoo-user] erratic touchpad


On 6/17/06, marco restelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Everything works fine, but the touchpad.
Indeed I have all the advanced features working: double click,
scroll ... but using the touchpad when the CPU load is hight
the mouse starts jumping around and clicking everywhere.


I see two problems in your dmesg output:


warning: many lost ticks.
Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts
rip __do_softirq+0x45/0xc9


Take a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt,
particularly the clock= option.  clock=pmtmr might be the best option
here...although I'm not sure it applies to amd64.


input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input1
APIC error on CPU0: 00(40)


Booting with noapic (again, see kernel-parameters.txt) should help.
It might also clear up the time issue above.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

2006-06-21 Thread Nick Rout

dvdrip is in portage and is an excellent tool for backing up DVD.


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:48:34 +0100
Uwe Thiem wrote:

> On 21 June 2006 15:01, fire-eyes wrote:
> 
> > Ah, so this is working _real_ well... Any ideas out there? Because I can't
> > get past this point.
> 
> Try the script provided on my company's web site (http://www.SysEx.com.na) 
> under "Linux tips and tricks". It's tip #5.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)

2006-06-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700
"Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> pivot_root is specifically *not* allowed from an initramfs
> environment.  What you want to do is simply mount the new root
> filesystem, chroot into it, and execute init.  Something like:
> 
> cd /new_root ; exec ./bin/chroot . ./sbin/init "$@" >dev/console
> &1
> 
> If you are *extremely* tricky, and use a symlinked /lib directory, you
> can actually delete everything from the initramfs before doing the
> chroot/init calls.  Let me know if you need some more details on this.

Hm, I'm pretty sure that it is well possible to pivot_root from an
initramfs. Isn't that the whole point of pivot_root? But you may be
right that it is not possible for NFS mounts, I never tried that before.

In fact, the approach you took is weak. /sbin/init wouldn't run as PID
1 in this case which is bad for the situation that the calling script
(which _has_ PID 1) dies. The kernel would recognize this and reboot
(and/or panic, not sure). To avoid this, one has to exec the init from
the script.

So basically it boils down to this /init in the initramfs:

#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/sbin
modprobe supermightyrootfsprovidingmodule && \
  mount -t blahfs /dev/whereitis /mnt/stagetwo && \
  cd /mnt/stagetwo && \
  pivot_root . /mnt/initramfs || reboot -f
exec /sbin/init

Note that I assume /mnt/stagetwo exists in initramfs (as well as
modprobe, mount, pivot_root and reboot) and /mnt/initramfs exists in
the to-be-mounted fs. Note that the last point may prevent
pivot_root'ing in a scenario where an NFS root fs is desired (because
I'm not sure if it can have mounts in it, but that would be needed for
proc, sys and dev, too, so it _may_ work here, too). The call
to /sbin/init happens in the new fs because pivot_root manipulates the
namespace of the calling process. Exec'ing is important so
that /sbin/init gets PID 1 and we don't have a process which depends on
the initramfs anymore, so we can unmount it at a later point.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Vmware and Ctrl-E (power Off)

2006-06-21 Thread Ow Mun Heng

On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 13:58 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 6/16/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm getting really frustrated. (googling didn't help cos not sure what
> > to input as search string)
> >
> > I believe there is a "Do you really want to shut down" diaglog box
> > somewhere.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know where that is??
> 
> In ~/.vmware/preferences, find the setting 'hint.vmui.poweroff'.
> Change it from 'FALSE' to 'TRUE'.  You might want the same thing for
> hint.vmui.reset.

I'll give it a go. Many Many Thanks.

> HTH,
> -Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Vmware and Ctrl-E (power Off)


On 6/16/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm getting really frustrated. (googling didn't help cos not sure what
to input as search string)

I believe there is a "Do you really want to shut down" diaglog box
somewhere.

Can anyone let me know where that is??


In ~/.vmware/preferences, find the setting 'hint.vmui.poweroff'.
Change it from 'FALSE' to 'TRUE'.  You might want the same thing for
hint.vmui.reset.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)


On 6/16/06, Claudinei Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'd created an initramfs wich mount the nfs share and do the pivot_root
(actually switch_root from busybox) but the problem is exactly at this
moment, 'cause when I try to do the switch_root and start the real init from
the nfs share, the system appears to freeze but after some seconds it do
print a message "Rebooting System" and just reboot the machine.


Sorry for the late reply...I've been on offline (vacation) for several days.

pivot_root is specifically *not* allowed from an initramfs
environment.  What you want to do is simply mount the new root
filesystem, chroot into it, and execute init.  Something like:

cd /new_root ; exec ./bin/chroot . ./sbin/init "$@" >dev/console
&1

If you are *extremely* tricky, and use a symlinked /lib directory, you
can actually delete everything from the initramfs before doing the
chroot/init calls.  Let me know if you need some more details on this.

HTH,
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for changing onsole colors ?


Enrico Weigelt wrote:

Hi folks,

is there any tool for changing the colors of the linux console ?
(or at least invert them).


Hm, you're really talking about the console?

If you were talking about an "xterm", it might be easier - at
least with gnome-terminal, it's easy to change all the colors
on the fly. Other terminals might have the same ability.

But as far as the real console is concerned - no clue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab


Enrico Weigelt wrote:


But this is quite inconvenient, if you have dozens of users and
want to allow them all to edit their crontabs.


Why is that "inconvenient"? Just put them in the appropriate
group - where's the problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?


Enrico Weigelt wrote:

* Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




anyway, why use old inetd at all? xinetd is way more powerful and secure!


well, I've already been using it for over 10 years, I never had
serious problems with it, and has all I need. 
So why should I now switch to xinetd ?


It's more modern.

Wouldn't it make more sense to let "inetd" be an virtual package 
which can be configured by some useflag to get either classic inetd

or xinet in, maybe xinet as default ?


Why? The current way is quite fine, IMO. You can easily select
which package to install, why depend on some USE flag?

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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

2006-06-21 Thread Uwe Thiem

On 21 June 2006 15:01, fire-eyes wrote:

> Ah, so this is working _real_ well... Any ideas out there? Because I can't
> get past this point.

Try the script provided on my company's web site (http://www.SysEx.com.na) 
under "Linux tips and tricks". It's tip #5.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Help with nvidia fake raid.

2006-06-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar

I thought I had make clear before, lousy english .
I had a separated boot partition but in the raid set, this was what I
really mean on previous e-mail.
sorry,

anyway, I don´t know why it doesn´t work. once that the boot starts. :(

On 6/21/06, Francesco Talamona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 18:34, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> no, I do not have a separated boot partition because I just have 2
> disks with the raid, so I cannot have the separated boot partition.
> But the boot starts and initrd and linuxrc are loaded ( apparently ).

Why not? Can you explain with some details?

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] Re: Help with nvidia fake raid.

2006-06-21 Thread Francesco Talamona

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 18:34, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> no, I do not have a separated boot partition because I just have 2
> disks with the raid, so I cannot have the separated boot partition.
> But the boot starts and initrd and linuxrc are loaded ( apparently ).

Why not? Can you explain with some details?

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread kashani


Enrico Weigelt wrote:

* Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




anyway, why use old inetd at all? xinetd is way more powerful and secure!


well, I've already been using it for over 10 years, I never had
serious problems with it, and has all I need. 
So why should I now switch to xinetd ?


Because most of us switched to xinetd at least six years ago. :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 12:45, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:01:51 -0400 fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > I opt to go for the supposedly higher quality x264, so I do two
> > passes:
> >
> > 1:
> >
> > mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf
> > crop=720:352:0:62,scale=752:320 -ovc x264 -x264encopts
> > subq=4:bframes=4:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1:psnr:bitrate=4452:threads=2:tu
> >rbo=1 -oac copy -ofps 24000/1001 -vobsubout subtitles -vobsuboutindex 0
> > -slang en -o pass1.avi
>
> Hm, threading, eh? Ever tried disabling it?

Sure have, no change on either system.

> > 2 (which whines about not finding the log file, so I have to rename
> > divx2pass.log.temp to divx2pass.log manually -- donchya love having
> > to figure things out):
>
> The question is rather why mencoder doesn't name it like this. The
> mencoder man page clearly tells that it should. It supposedly wasn't
> existing at that point, right?

Correct, I did not understand that one, either.

> > mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf
> > crop=720:352:0:62,spp,scale,hqdn3d=2:1:2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts
> > subq=5:4x4mv:8x8dct:frameref=3:me=2:bframes=4:b_pyramid:pass=2:psnr:bitra
> >te=4450:threads=3 -oac faac -faacopts object=0:tns:quality=100 -ofps
> > 24000/1001 -o pass2.avi
>
> Oh, 3 threads now. Again: Did you try using only one thread? Are all
> those additional libraries you might have compiled into mplayer
> thread-safe? BTW: Is there a reason why in pass one you're using a
> cropped, scaled version of the movie and in pass two a _not_ scaled
> version? This will probably result in different blocks and will
> probably have (minor) bad influence on b/w calculation...

Just following the URL. I haven't a clue what i'm doing with all this stuff, i 
find it very confusing.

> > However there is a problem with pass 2. I have tried this on two
> > seperate systems, and the exact same thing happens:
> > [...]
> > Segmentation fault
>
> Segfaults are not that uncommon if you have problems with interfering
> threads. If you have a little time, you may also want to do an "emerge
> -e mplayer" to sort out problems that are due to compiler change and
> similar. BTW: Are you overriding the mplayer ebuild's own CFLAG
> settings?

Sure, maybe I'll do the emptytree some day. Sounds like it would be easiest to 
not use threads and in fact disable it in the x2whatever encoder, i would 
hate to have to stick with that though as I do have two cpus... better than 
segfaults tough.

I am using custom cflags on that, though I've never had a problem with that.

I think what I'll try is disabling threading support in the apps, try again. 
If that fails, move away from custom-cflags in mplayer.

So many factors :) Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

2006-06-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:01:51 -0400 fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I opt to go for the supposedly higher quality x264, so I do two
> passes:
> 
> 1:
> 
> mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf 
> crop=720:352:0:62,scale=752:320 -ovc x264 -x264encopts 
> subq=4:bframes=4:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1:psnr:bitrate=4452:threads=2:turbo=1
> -oac copy -ofps 24000/1001 -vobsubout subtitles -vobsuboutindex 0
> -slang en -o pass1.avi

Hm, threading, eh? Ever tried disabling it?

> 2 (which whines about not finding the log file, so I have to rename 
> divx2pass.log.temp to divx2pass.log manually -- donchya love having
> to figure things out):

The question is rather why mencoder doesn't name it like this. The
mencoder man page clearly tells that it should. It supposedly wasn't
existing at that point, right?

> mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf 
> crop=720:352:0:62,spp,scale,hqdn3d=2:1:2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts 
> subq=5:4x4mv:8x8dct:frameref=3:me=2:bframes=4:b_pyramid:pass=2:psnr:bitrate=4450:threads=3
> -oac faac -faacopts object=0:tns:quality=100 -ofps 24000/1001 -o
> pass2.avi

Oh, 3 threads now. Again: Did you try using only one thread? Are all
those additional libraries you might have compiled into mplayer
thread-safe? BTW: Is there a reason why in pass one you're using a
cropped, scaled version of the movie and in pass two a _not_ scaled
version? This will probably result in different blocks and will
probably have (minor) bad influence on b/w calculation...

> However there is a problem with pass 2. I have tried this on two
> seperate systems, and the exact same thing happens:
> [...]
> Segmentation fault

Segfaults are not that uncommon if you have problems with interfering
threads. If you have a little time, you may also want to do an "emerge
-e mplayer" to sort out problems that are due to compiler change and
similar. BTW: Are you overriding the mplayer ebuild's own CFLAG
settings?

> Ah, so this is working _real_ well... Any ideas out there? Because I
> can't get past this point.

Well, hard to imagine what you've already tried, but try the things
mentioned above.


HTH,

-hwh

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> (Insert my typical whine about video on linux being a pain here)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with nvidia fake raid.

2006-06-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar


no, I do not have a separated boot partition because I just have 2
disks with the raid, so I cannot have the separated boot partition.
But the boot starts and initrd and linuxrc are loaded ( apparently ).


On 6/21/06, Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I have been trying for 5 days now to install a gentoo system on a
> nvidia mother board with fake raid, I already have a windows system on
> the machine that needs the raid and I want to install gentoo on it.
>
> I have followed instructions on
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid
> I was succeeded on installing gentoo base system and grub :-), but,
> when I boot the systems ask for real_root /dev/mapper/nv_ device
>
> I had try the hard way, open a shell when it ask for real_root and on
> /dev/mapper is just control.
>
> I had try with genkernel and on the same situation on /dev/mapper/ has
> control and my disk, but none of the partitions.
>
> I am so close of making this work, but is really frustrating get stuck
> in something like that for so long.
>
> Thanks for attention, Allan
>
Hi,
No experience with RAID but do you have a separate /boot partition.
Assume you're also using an initrd (with genkernel ... --dmraid ...).
HTH.Rumen






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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable

2006-06-21 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic

On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 20:34 +, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've seen snipits of various issues related to running gentoo on a 64 bit
> amd processor. In particular, I'd like to get a 'low power'
> chip such as the Turion in a portable. 

I have a Turion MT-32 laptop (ABS Mayhem F-15 A40 which is actually an
MSI-1011 and only sold by NewEgg for $900.)

> One of my concerns is whether to use
> 32 bit or 64 bit Gentoo on a 64 bit AMD portable. Is there
> a document I can read somewhere that explains the merits
> and problems on how to set up Gentoo on a 64 bit machine?
> If not can somebody explain the caveats of 64 bit (amd) gentoo?
> I do not wish to be on the 'bleeding edge' of 64 bit AMD issues,
> but, I'd like to access the power. I'm running a variety of
> 32 bit stable gentoo systems now, with relative ease.

I've basically had no problems running a 64-bit system other than the
well-known mplayer & flash-type problems, except when I go and try to
compile open source applications. Many make fundamental assumptions
about data layouts and sizes that are simply not true for 64-bit
systems.

BTW, I have had ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" for months now without any
serious problems, although I do run into the occasional (non-essential)
package which won't compile. They are usually fixed (or a patch
provided) in a reasonable amount of time.

I'd unhesitantly run a 64-bit system on an AMD64 system again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2GB of RAM

2006-06-21 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic

On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 01:21 -0500, David Klempner wrote:
> * Vladimir G. Ivanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-20 16:51]:
> > I figured it out. The VMSPLIT options are *not* available on 64-bit
> > systems. (Phew. It's neither encroaching madness nor Alzheimer's.)
> 
> Yeah... I suppose I wasn't paying close enough attention to what you
> were saying. :-)

Well, it took way longer than I would have wished for me to catch on.
You'd think the total absence of any VMSPLIT options in *any* of my
saved config files would have been a sufficient hint, but no

> 
> The VMSPLIT options are about how the kernel uses the 32 bit address
> space (specifically, what fraction of the address space of each process
> it reserves for its own use). A large portion of what a 64 bit system
> gets you is more than 32 bits worth of address space, so I'm fairly sure
> the entire issue is moot. :-)

You're most certainly right.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2GB of RAM

2006-06-21 Thread David Klempner

* Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-21 04:12]:
> Sorry, but one thing remains unclear. Ignoring the fact that adding
> embedded extras to your kernel on a non-embedded system just to get the
> the VMSPLIT options is (in my opinion) confusing and unlogical, is this
> step actually needed considering I (according to your advice) would take
> the default VMSPLIT anyway?
> What I mean is simply: If I enable HIGHMEM4GB to allow the kernel to use
> my 2GB of RAM, do I still need to add the embedded options (as you
> explain above), or is simply using HIGHMEM4GB enough? It's maybe a tough
> question is ask, but you definitely seem to know exactly what you are
> talking about ;-)

Right; the right thing to do here is to not touch VMSPLIT at all, which
means there's no reason to be messing around with CONFIG_EMBEDDED. Just
set HIGHMEM4GB and be done with it (but, if you're editing a config
where you've already done so, make sure that you still have all of the
CONFIG_EMBEDDED dependent options set correctly before you unset it:
enable every one of the "standard kernel features" except for the extra
pass, and then make sure you have the default 3/1 VMSPLIT)

> > Hope this helps.
> 
> Is sure does! Any advice to the above question? With that I should be
> complete I think ;-) Where do you get your information from btw (I'm
> curious as I didn't find much via Google explaining as clear as you did)?

I did some googling about a year and a half ago, when I finally upgraded
my desktop from 512MB to 1GB and ran into these issues for the first
time, and I've spent some time poking around the kernel sources before.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with nvidia fake raid.

2006-06-21 Thread Rumen Yotov

Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I have been trying for 5 days now to install a gentoo system on a
> nvidia mother board with fake raid, I already have a windows system on
> the machine that needs the raid and I want to install gentoo on it.
> 
> I have followed instructions on
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid
> I was succeeded on installing gentoo base system and grub :-), but,
> when I boot the systems ask for real_root /dev/mapper/nv_ device
> 
> I had try the hard way, open a shell when it ask for real_root and on
> /dev/mapper is just control.
> 
> I had try with genkernel and on the same situation on /dev/mapper/ has
> control and my disk, but none of the partitions.
> 
> I am so close of making this work, but is really frustrating get stuck
> in something like that for so long.
> 
> Thanks for attention, Allan
> 
Hi,
No experience with RAID but do you have a separate /boot partition.
Assume you're also using an initrd (with genkernel ... --dmraid ...).
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread Bruno Lustosa


On 6/21/06, Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

inetd is way too old. I tried googling for it, and I couldn't even
find source downloads for it.


Just to complement it, inetd _can_ be found in portage, in package
sys-apps/netkit-base

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread Bruno Lustosa


On 6/21/06, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

well, I've already been using it for over 10 years, I never had
serious problems with it, and has all I need.
So why should I now switch to xinetd ?


The answer to this 'why' can be found here:
http://www.xinetd.org/faq.html#why


Wouldn't it make more sense to let "inetd" be an virtual package
which can be configured by some useflag to get either classic inetd
or xinet in, maybe xinet as default ?


inetd is way too old. I tried googling for it, and I couldn't even
find source downloads for it.
It's like wanting to use in.telnetd and telnet instead of ssh because
the former has always served well.
However, if you can find the sources to it, you can always compile and
use it, can't you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

2006-06-21 Thread Ian Porter

Hi

> Having given up on dvdrip for ripping dvd's, i've since moved on to a
> howto I  was pointed at:
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_DVD_mencoder
>

Not sure how much of a help it is, but ages ago I was playing about with
linux avi/mpeg - dvd ripping etc.. and did write up a couple of notes on the
matter and placed on my site.  Again not sure how much help they are, was
doing it in 2005 but now do not rip dvd's anymore since dvd's are cheaper
now than cd to backup incase of any scratches.

http://www.designersoft.co.uk/tutorials/tutorialroom/1-1.html

Thanks
Ian
> I opt to go for the supposedly higher quality x264, so I do two passes:
>
> 1:
>
> mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf
> crop=720:352:0:62,scale=752:320 -ovc x264 -x264encopts
> subq=4:bframes=4:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1:psnr:bitrate=4452:threads=2:turbo=1>
>  -oac  copy -ofps 24000/1001 -vobsubout subtitles -vobsuboutindex 0
> -slang en -o  pass1.avi
>
> 2 (which whines about not finding the log file, so I have to rename
> divx2pass.log.temp to divx2pass.log manually -- donchya love having to
> figure  things out):
>
> mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf
> crop=720:352:0:62,spp,scale,hqdn3d=2:1:2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts
>
subq=5:4x4mv:8x8dct:frameref=3:me=2:bframes=4:b_pyramid:pass=2:psnr:bitrate=4450:threads=3>
 -oac  faac -faacopts object=0:tns:quality=100 -ofps 24000/1001 -o
> pass2.avi
>
> However there is a problem with pass 2. I have tried this on two
> seperate  systems, and the exact same thing happens:
>
> MEncoder 1.0pre8-3.4.6 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
> CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (Family: 6, Model:
> 13,  Stepping: 8)
> MMX2 supported but disabled
> CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
> Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
> 93 audio & 211 video codecs
> init_freetype
> get_path('font/font.desc') -> '/home/sgtphou/.mplayer/font/font.desc'
> font: can't open file: /home/sgtphou/.mplayer/font/font.desc
> Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
> Using MMX Optimized OnScreenDisplay
> [file] File size is 7733315584 bytes
> STREAM:
> [file]
> /home/sgtphou/fire-eyes/temp/mencoder/xmen-2/title1/vob/title1.vob
> STREAM: Description: File
> STREAM: Author: Albeu
> STREAM: Comment: based on the code from ??? (probably Arpi)
> success: format: 0  data: 0x0 - 0xccf10800
> Checking for YUV4MPEG2
> ASF_check: not ASF guid!
> Checking for NuppelVideo
> Checking for REAL
> Checking for SMJPEG
> Searching demuxer type for
> filename
> /home/sgtphou/fire-eyes/temp/mencoder/xmen-2/title1/vob/title1.vob
> ext: .vob
> Trying demuxer 2 based on filename extension
> system stream synced at 0xD (13)!
> ==> Found video stream: 0
> ==> Found audio stream: 131
> ==> Found audio stream: 128
> ==> Found audio stream: 137
> ==> Found audio stream: 132
> ==> Found audio stream: 133
> ==> Found audio stream: 130
> MPEG Stream reached EOF
> ds_fill_buffer: EOF reached (stream: video)
> MPEG-PS file format detected.
> ==> Found subtitle: 0
> ==> Found subtitle: 1
> ==> Found subtitle: 2
> ==> Found subtitle: 3
> ==> Found subtitle: 4
> ==> Found subtitle: 5
> ==> Found subtitle: 6
> ==> Found subtitle: 7
> Searching for sequence header... OK!
> VIDEO:  MPEG2  720x480  (aspect 3)  29.970 fps  9800.0 kbps (1225.0
> kbyte/s) [V] filefmt:2  fourcc:0x1002  size:720x480  fps:29.97
> ftime:=0.0334
> ==
> Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
> dec_audio: Allocating 3840 bytes for input buffer.
> dec_audio: Allocating 6144 + 65536 = 71680 bytes for output buffer.
> Using SSE optimized IMDCT transform
> AC3: 2.0 (dolby)  48000 Hz  192.0 kbit/s
> A52 flags before a52_frame: 0x2A
> A52 flags after a52_frame: 0xA
> Using MMX optimized resampler
> AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 24000->192000)
> Selected audio codec: [a52] afm: liba52 (AC3-liba52)
> ==
> Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
> Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.00, round: 1
> Opening video filter: [hqdn3d=2:1:2]
> Opening video filter: [scale]
> SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
> Opening video filter: [spp]
> Opening video filter: [crop w=720 h=352 x=0 y=62]
> Crop: 720 x 352, 0 ; 62
> ==
> Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
> VDec: vo config request - 720 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Mpeg PES)
> [PP] Using external postprocessing filter, max q = 6.
> Trying filter chain: crop spp scale hqdn3d expand x264
> Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
> Opening video filter: [scale]
> SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
> Trying filter chain: scale crop spp scale hqdn3d expand x264
> The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
> Try adding the scale filter, e.

[gentoo-user] Help with nvidia fake raid.

2006-06-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar


Hi list,

I have been trying for 5 days now to install a gentoo system on a
nvidia mother board with fake raid, I already have a windows system on
the machine that needs the raid and I want to install gentoo on it.

I have followed instructions on
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid
I was succeeded on installing gentoo base system and grub :-), but,
when I boot the systems ask for real_root /dev/mapper/nv_ device

I had try the hard way, open a shell when it ask for real_root and on
/dev/mapper is just control.

I had try with genkernel and on the same situation on /dev/mapper/ has
control and my disk, but none of the partitions.

I am so close of making this work, but is really frustrating get stuck
in something like that for so long.

Thanks for attention, Allan

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

* Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> anyway, why use old inetd at all? xinetd is way more powerful and secure!

well, I've already been using it for over 10 years, I never had
serious problems with it, and has all I need. 
So why should I now switch to xinetd ?

Wouldn't it make more sense to let "inetd" be an virtual package 
which can be configured by some useflag to get either classic inetd
or xinet in, maybe xinet as default ?


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[gentoo-user] Tool for changing onsole colors ?


Hi folks,

is there any tool for changing the colors of the linux console ?
(or at least invert them).

I'm currently sitting in the garden with my notebook, the sun is
shining bright, and its really hard to read anything ...


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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:37:27 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

> > What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to
> > remove the initrd= option from the command line?
> 
> Good question! In this regard, grub is certainly better since it shows 
> you the complete command line, and you can tweak everything you want. 
> Anyway, passing an empty "initrd=" could possibly work (I never tried 
> this).

When I find myself in that situation, I want something more than "could
possibly work" :(

Anyway, I rarely edit the command line. I forgot to re-run lilo far more
often, so it's GRUB for me.

Those of you that only use x86 based system don't know how lucky you are
to have two decent bootloaders. If you took the worst aspect of LILO and
GRUB and added some extra user-hostility for luck, you'd still have
something a hundred times better than yaboot, the PPC bootloader :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

2006-06-21 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 16:20, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> egrep ^.*?:.*?:.*?:100: /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1 | while read u do gpasswd
> -a $u cron; done
>
> will add all users from group GID 100 (users on this system) to the cron
> group.

Well...

awk -F: "\$4~/^\
`awk -F: '$1~/^users$/{print $3}' < /etc/group`\
\$/{print \$1}" < /etc/passwd | \
while read user; do
gpasswd -a "$user" cron
done

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Copying PS/2 game CDs

2006-06-21 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 6/21/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote:

>On Wednesday, 21 June 2006 11:38, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I want to make copies of our PS/2 game CDs so that they can use the
>>copies and we can put up the originals.  They seem to either scratch
>>real easy or they are really touchy about scratches.  Does anybody here
>>know of a way to do this?  This is Linux, surely someone has found a way.
>>
>>Thanks.  Sorry so far off topic.  I can't be the only one with kids
>>around.  ;-)
>>
>>Dale
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>
>
>Copying the CD/DVD is easy enough, just use your standard tools although I
>don't believe dual layer discs can be copied properly yet ie. Gran Turismo 4.
>
>However, getting them to actually play on the PS/2 is a whole other matter.
>You'll need to have your PS/2 modded to support playing copied games, which
>may or may not be legal where you live.
>
>
>

Crap.  We recently had a $60.00 game to get scratched.  Maybe they need
to play Uno or something.

Do as some of my friends do. Rent the discs at a local store...

I would hate to mod the thing but I wish there was a way to copy it and
it work.  I may try it just to see.  I still beleive in the fair use

It won't, you have to take it to someone to install a modchip, and
that's, well, pretty illegal, at least where I live.

thing.  I'm not going to sell the copies.

Well, they really don't care about that...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:32:31 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> But this is quite inconvenient, if you have dozens of users and
> want to allow them all to edit their crontabs.

egrep ^.*?:.*?:.*?:100: /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1 | while read u do gpasswd -a 
$u cron; done

will add all users from group GID 100 (users on this system) to the cron
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 15:40, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to
> remove the initrd= option from the command line?

Good question! In this regard, grub is certainly better since it shows 
you the complete command line, and you can tweak everything you want. 
Anyway, passing an empty "initrd=" could possibly work (I never tried 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Copying PS/2 game CDs

2006-06-21 Thread Teresa and Dale

Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote:

>On Wednesday, 21 June 2006 11:38, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I want to make copies of our PS/2 game CDs so that they can use the
>>copies and we can put up the originals.  They seem to either scratch
>>real easy or they are really touchy about scratches.  Does anybody here
>>know of a way to do this?  This is Linux, surely someone has found a way.
>>
>>Thanks.  Sorry so far off topic.  I can't be the only one with kids
>>around.  ;-)
>>
>>Dale
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>
>
>Copying the CD/DVD is easy enough, just use your standard tools although I 
>don't believe dual layer discs can be copied properly yet ie. Gran Turismo 4.
>
>However, getting them to actually play on the PS/2 is a whole other matter. 
>You'll need to have your PS/2 modded to support playing copied games, which 
>may or may not be legal where you live.
>
>  
>

Crap.  We recently had a $60.00 game to get scratched.  Maybe they need
to play Uno or something. 

I would hate to mod the thing but I wish there was a way to copy it and
it work.  I may try it just to see.  I still beleive in the fair use
thing.  I'm not going to sell the copies.

Thanks.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] (kcminit failing, arts hanging)

2006-06-21 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Christian Panten wrote:
> after some update (I can't recognize with I made)

Run 'genlop -u --list --date 2 days ago' to see what you updated in 
the last two days, or whenever you started noticing the problems.  
Anything alsa-like in there?

> 1. Starting kde I get an error that kcminit failed.

What does it say when started from the command line?

> 2. My soundserver arts hangs.

Using full CPU?

> I notify that I get an warning while configuration some kde
> packages:

It's a warning, not an error.  It can be ignored.

> CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config
> /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
> /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"

You still have kde-3.4 stuff installed while using 3.5?  Find it all 
and remove it.  Especially kdepaths-3.4 from /etc/env.d/, then run 
env-update, and re-login.

> PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/myoverlay
> /usr/local/portage/gentoo.de
> /usr/local/portage/spyderous/overlay"

How about unsetting PORTDIR_OVERLAY and trying an 'emerge -Du world' 
to see if that cures it?

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[gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto

Having given up on dvdrip for ripping dvd's, i've since moved on to a howto I 
was pointed at:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_DVD_mencoder

I opt to go for the supposedly higher quality x264, so I do two passes:

1:

mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf 
crop=720:352:0:62,scale=752:320 -ovc x264 -x264encopts 
subq=4:bframes=4:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1:psnr:bitrate=4452:threads=2:turbo=1 
-oac 
copy -ofps 24000/1001 -vobsubout subtitles -vobsuboutindex 0 -slang en -o 
pass1.avi

2 (which whines about not finding the log file, so I have to rename 
divx2pass.log.temp to divx2pass.log manually -- donchya love having to figure 
things out):

mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf 
crop=720:352:0:62,spp,scale,hqdn3d=2:1:2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts 
subq=5:4x4mv:8x8dct:frameref=3:me=2:bframes=4:b_pyramid:pass=2:psnr:bitrate=4450:threads=3
 -oac 
faac -faacopts object=0:tns:quality=100 -ofps 24000/1001 -o pass2.avi

However there is a problem with pass 2. I have tried this on two seperate 
systems, and the exact same thing happens:

MEncoder 1.0pre8-3.4.6 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (Family: 6, Model: 13, 
Stepping: 8)
MMX2 supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
93 audio & 211 video codecs
init_freetype
get_path('font/font.desc') -> '/home/sgtphou/.mplayer/font/font.desc'
font: can't open file: /home/sgtphou/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
Using MMX Optimized OnScreenDisplay
[file] File size is 7733315584 bytes
STREAM: 
[file] /home/sgtphou/fire-eyes/temp/mencoder/xmen-2/title1/vob/title1.vob
STREAM: Description: File
STREAM: Author: Albeu
STREAM: Comment: based on the code from ??? (probably Arpi)
success: format: 0  data: 0x0 - 0xccf10800
Checking for YUV4MPEG2
ASF_check: not ASF guid!
Checking for NuppelVideo
Checking for REAL
Checking for SMJPEG
Searching demuxer type for 
filename /home/sgtphou/fire-eyes/temp/mencoder/xmen-2/title1/vob/title1.vob 
ext: .vob
Trying demuxer 2 based on filename extension
system stream synced at 0xD (13)!
==> Found video stream: 0
==> Found audio stream: 131
==> Found audio stream: 128
==> Found audio stream: 137
==> Found audio stream: 132
==> Found audio stream: 133
==> Found audio stream: 130
MPEG Stream reached EOF
ds_fill_buffer: EOF reached (stream: video)
MPEG-PS file format detected.
==> Found subtitle: 0
==> Found subtitle: 1
==> Found subtitle: 2
==> Found subtitle: 3
==> Found subtitle: 4
==> Found subtitle: 5
==> Found subtitle: 6
==> Found subtitle: 7
Searching for sequence header... OK!
VIDEO:  MPEG2  720x480  (aspect 3)  29.970 fps  9800.0 kbps (1225.0 kbyte/s)
[V] filefmt:2  fourcc:0x1002  size:720x480  fps:29.97  ftime:=0.0334
==
Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
dec_audio: Allocating 3840 bytes for input buffer.
dec_audio: Allocating 6144 + 65536 = 71680 bytes for output buffer.
Using SSE optimized IMDCT transform
AC3: 2.0 (dolby)  48000 Hz  192.0 kbit/s
A52 flags before a52_frame: 0x2A
A52 flags after a52_frame: 0xA
Using MMX optimized resampler
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 24000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [a52] afm: liba52 (AC3-liba52)
==
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.00, round: 1
Opening video filter: [hqdn3d=2:1:2]
Opening video filter: [scale]
SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
Opening video filter: [spp]
Opening video filter: [crop w=720 h=352 x=0 y=62]
Crop: 720 x 352, 0 ; 62
==
Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
VDec: vo config request - 720 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Mpeg PES)
[PP] Using external postprocessing filter, max q = 6.
Trying filter chain: crop spp scale hqdn3d expand x264
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
Trying filter chain: scale crop spp scale hqdn3d expand x264
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
Try adding the scale filter, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b
Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm: libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
==
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le -> 0Hz/0ch/??...
[libaf] Adding filter dummy
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/s16le
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/s16le
AE_FAAC, sample_input: 2048, max_bytes_output: 1536
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le -> 48000Hz/2ch/s16le...
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/s1

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Nico Schümann


2006/6/21, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to
remove the initrd= option from the command line?

I'd try things like "initrd=" for example. Maybe it's ignored.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

2006-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs

Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 14:29 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:

> > Or by editing /etc/cron.allow
>
> Nah, doesn't help. Just have a look at /usr/bin/crontab.

Yes, you're right.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted /boot

2006-06-21 Thread fei huang

On 6/21/06, Mike Markowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's a little more info that might inspire some ideas out there ingentoo land.  Since my /boot partition was possibly in a generallyunhappy state, I booted the 2006.0 livecd, did a "mkfs /dev/sda1" (my
/boot partition), then put grub and kernel stuff back on /boot.  I wasconfident this would do it, but no go.  Just to be sure nothing was leftout, I even went through the grub set up process again as Daniel
recommended in another post in this thread.  Still no change.Seems nothing unusual. 
The boot process continues just prior to the "INIT 2.86" line when theinit.d stuff is kicked off.  While booted with the livecd, I checked and/sbin/init really is there (mine, not the livecd one).  But when I tried
to pass "init=/sbin/init" as a kernel arg in grub.conf, I got the samepanic along with a message that /sbin/init couldn't be executed (orsomething similar - I forgot to write it down).  But since I only hosed
/boot and then reinstalled grub and kernel, I'm not sure why I'm not inbusiness yet.Any ideas?  "Bueller?  Bueller?"although the panic  complains that  init  can  not be executed,  the problem may not  be caused by init, make sure to pass the correct "root" arg to kernel, which is your root partition, not the same "root" when you are in grub's shell. 
Thanks,Frustrated in Pennsylvania (aka Mike)Mike Markowski wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:04:04 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

> You pass vga=ask on the fly on the command line and this takes
> precedence over whatever is in lilo.conf. 
> The same happens for the "root=", "initrd=", "ramdisk=", and other
> kernel parameters.

What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to
remove the initrd= option from the command line?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab


Hi folks,


Putting the users into the cron group fixed it. 
Okay, as it should be ;-o

In all these years I never had a system which required this.

For security reasons, this is not bad, so certain users can be
both allowed to have an crontab but forbidden to edit it.

But this is quite inconvenient, if you have dozens of users and
want to allow them all to edit their crontabs.

I would prefer an more advanced crontab(1) program, which can
be executed by all, but has an finer permission config. It also
could allow more checks (ie. via external filters ?) against
the to-be-installed crontab (ie. limit the amount of jobs or
set minimum intervals for some folks).


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Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Grub, Hardened, and AMD64

2006-06-21 Thread Michael Crute

On 6/20/06, Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Michael Crute wrote:
> I am building a server (AMD Opteron 64) and as a matter of policy I
> always run the hardened profile on my servers. Now this is my first
> time doing an install on an AMD64 architecture with hardened and so
> far it has gone relatively well. The thing that is giving me the most
> problems is Grub. When I try to emerge it in the hardened chroot the
> config script bombs out with an error 'C compiler cannot create
> executables'. One suggested solution was to disable sandbox in
> features and try again, no such luck. My next thought was to build a
> second chroot with a regular (non-hardened) tarball and build a
> package of grub (compiled using the static useflag) then emerge that
> in the hardened environment. Does this make sense? Is it likely to
> work or should I be doing something else? Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> Note that simply not using the hardened profile is not an option here.

I emerged Grub in a separate non-hardened chroot, built a binary
package and emerged it into my hardened chroot and everything worked
like a charm. I did use the custom-cflags and static USE flag on the
build, I'm not sure if custom-cflags is needed but I'm pretty sure
static is required since the 32bit libs aren't available on my system
outside of the chroot used to build the package. If I'm wrong on this
let me know. If anyone else happens to be running an Opteron processor
and would benefit from the package I would be glad to post it.

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip: significant frame loss during rip

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 04:00, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> I see this error, but usually near the start of the rip. I get rid of it
> by setting "Grab subtitle preview images" to No.

Hm. I always see it at the end, and it makes no difference what I have the 
grab subtitle setting at. Thanks for the reply :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: missing pieces

2006-06-21 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 6/21/06, Molle Bestefich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think a piece might be missing from Portage.

I'll depict my workflow as an example.

I'm preparing to upgrade:
# emerge --sync
# emerge -Dp world
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXinerama-1.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXi-1.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXrandr-1.1.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/randrproto-1.1.2)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.0)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libdrm-2.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/glproto-1.4.7)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.0.3)
... etc, lots of blockers ...

Ok, let's try and find why it wants to downgrade to xorg-x11-6.9:
# equery d xorg-x11-6.9
[ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11-6.9... ]

#

Ok, no reason, apparently.  Maybe it's already merged then?
# emerge -C xorg-x11-6.9
--- Couldn't find 'xorg-x11-6.9' to unmerge.

Nope.  Now I'm getting uncertain.  Don't I have xorg-x11 at all?
# emerge -C xorg-x11

 x11-base/xorg-x11
selected: 7.0-r1
   protected: none
 omitted: none

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

>>> Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
>>> (Control-C to abort)...
>>> Unmerging in: 5 4 3

Exiting on signal 2

Whoops.  Yep, it's there.

Ok, so status is that I have xorg-x11-7.0, I don't have 6.9, no
packages actually wants xorg-x11-6.9, but whenever I use "emerge -D
world", Portage sees it as a blocker anyway.

Is there a piece missing in this puzzle, in particular the one that
will tell me why on earth Portage thinks version 6.9 is a blocker?

Or is the piece in place but I'm not looking hard enough?
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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 14:18, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've just emerge'd inetd, and this installed xinetd.
> How can I get inetd installed ?

Well, if you *really* want it [1]. I do agree with the others. You should just
use xinitd as it is superior to inetd.

[1] 
http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl?filter-search_file=/etc/init.d/inetd

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> Nico Schümann wrote:
>>> 2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have
 to explicitly press some key to modify the command line.
>>> I agree. I don't want to say anything like lilo is better (I
>>> personally prefer grub because I always forget to run lilo after I
>>> changed anything at the boot volume), but modifying the command line
>>> is way easier.
> 
> Definitely.

Is it? How do you *modify* the command line (ie. change
it, instead of just adding to it)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:58, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Hm - can you also *modify* the boot commands? Say, the boot command
> in lilo.conf contains "vga=123" and now, for whatever reason, you
> want "vga=ask" - what to do?

You pass vga=ask on the fly on the command line and this takes precedence 
over whatever is in lilo.conf. 
The same happens for the "root=", "initrd=", "ramdisk=", and other kernel 
parameters.
As an example, consider the "root=" option: if you mistakenly put the 
wrong root= in lilo.conf, it would be impossible to recover without 
booting a live cd or some other kernel. Instead, you pass a 
different "root=" options on lilo command line (which passes the option 
to the kernel, of course) and you can boot without having to resort to 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 13:34 schrieb ext Enrico Weigelt:

>> It is easy to fix, by "chmod ugo+s", but after an update,
>> the shit starts again ...
> 
> Or by editing /etc/cron.allow

Nah, doesn't help. Just have a look at /usr/bin/crontab.

>> Smells like a bug.
> 
> Works as designed.

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread Bruno Lustosa


On 6/21/06, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've just emerge'd inetd, and this installed xinetd.
How can I get inetd installed ?


inetd is a virtual package that is provided by xinetd now.
anyway, why use old inetd at all? xinetd is way more powerful and secure!

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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> I've just emerge'd inetd, and this installed xinetd.
> How can I get inetd installed ?

pago helped me quite a lot in finding the correct
package really fast. Just have a look at 
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=inetd

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Re: [gentoo-user]

2006-06-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 08:35, Christian Panten wrote:
> Hello,
>
> after some update (I can't recognize with I made) I had some problems with
> kicker. The taskbar didn't return from automaticle blend out.
> After reinstallation of kdelibs and kicker I solved this problem.
>
> But there are also some problems remained.
> 1. Starting kde I get an error that kcminit failed.
> I tried to reinstall kcminit, but it does not solve the problem.
> 2. My soundserver arts hangs.
> A reinstallation of arts does not help.
>
> Can anyone help me?
>

clean out /tmp
clean out the temp  '.' files in your home directory (like .Dcop and co).
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Re: [gentoo-user] where's good old inetd ?

2006-06-21 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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hiya


> I've just emerge'd inetd, and this installed xinetd.
> How can I get inetd installed ?

compile frm source, or get an outside-portage ebuild.

google for inetd ebuild, for example.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 64bit vs 32bit

2006-06-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 07:26, Mike Huber wrote:
> My understanding is that the major advantage of the 64-bit processors
> is for memory address space (>4Gigs of virtual memory space without
> PAE, technically 48 bits of address space, which is something like
> 128Terrabytes of addressable memory).
>
> There must be some advantage associated with being able to hold two
> long ints in one register (or some such relationship there).  Anyone
> know detailed explanations for situations where 64-bit is more/less
> beneficial and why?
>

large numbers?

but the 64bit amd extension is really, really helpfull, when you need 
registers. The additional registers are a huge advantage and can give you a 
nice boost. 

Can, not have too - it depends on the task and how the software was compiled.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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Nico Schümann wrote:
> 2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have
>> to explicitly press some key to modify the command line.
> I agree. I don't want to say anything like lilo is better (I
> personally prefer grub because I always forget to run lilo after I
> changed anything at the boot volume), but modifying the command line
> is way easier.

Definitely.

In any case, I would like to add that one must choose lilo or grub depending on 
lots of different
aspects.

For example, I have an ASUS a7n8x-e deluxe mobo at home, with two sata drives 
and one ide hdd.

The boot options on the BIOS do not allow me to specify from WHICH sata drive I 
want to boot.

So, grub sometimes had the ugly "timestamp" error (if my memory is not failing 
here).

I had to go back to lilo to avoid the problem.

And I like both! :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Nico Schümann


2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have
to explicitly press some key to modify the command line.

I agree. I don't want to say anything like lilo is better (I
personally prefer grub because I always forget to run lilo after I
changed anything at the boot volume), but modifying the command line
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Hi folks,

I've just emerge'd inetd, and this installed xinetd.
How can I get inetd installed ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

2006-06-21 Thread Shaochun Wang

It's a dangerous action to change a program's setuid bit!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: missing pieces

2006-06-21 Thread Shaochun Wang

add virtual/xft ~x86 to /etc/portage/package.keywords



On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 01:29:21PM +0200, Molle Bestefich wrote:
> I think a piece might be missing from Portage.
> 
> I'll depict my workflow as an example.
> 
> I'm preparing to upgrade:
> # emerge --sync
> # emerge -Dp world
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
> x11-libs/libXinerama-1.0.1)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXi-1.0.1)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
> x11-libs/libXrandr-1.1.1)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
> x11-proto/randrproto-1.1.2)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
> x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.0)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libdrm-2.0.1)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
> x11-proto/glproto-1.4.7)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.0.3)
> ... etc, lots of blockers ...
> 
> Ok, let's try and find why it wants to downgrade to xorg-x11-6.9:
> # equery d xorg-x11-6.9
> [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11-6.9... ]
> 
> 
> #
> 
> Ok, no reason, apparently.  Maybe it's already merged then?
> # emerge -C xorg-x11-6.9
> --- Couldn't find 'xorg-x11-6.9' to unmerge.
> 
> Nope.  Now I'm getting uncertain.  Don't I have xorg-x11 at all?
> # emerge -C xorg-x11
> 
> x11-base/xorg-x11
>selected: 7.0-r1
>   protected: none
> omitted: none
> 
> >>>'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
> >>>'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
> 
> >>>Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
> >>>(Control-C to abort)...
> >>>Unmerging in: 5 4 3
> 
> 
> Exiting on signal 2
> 
> Whoops.  Yep, it's there.
> 
> Ok, so status is that I have xorg-x11-7.0, I don't have 6.9, no
> packages actually wants xorg-x11-6.9, but whenever I use "emerge -D
> world", Portage sees it as a blocker anyway.
> 
> Is there a piece missing in this puzzle, in particular the one that
> will tell me why on earth Portage thinks version 6.9 is a blocker?
> 
> Or is the piece in place but I'm not looking hard enough?
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:39, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
>> True. But with lilo, you've got to modify the lilo.conf (or what's
>> it called?) and run lilo, don't you?
>>
>> Or can you modify the boot command line "on-the-fly" in the boot
>> menu?
> 
> Of course: after selecting an entry from the lilo menu, just append the 
> parameters you need to the command line (shown at lilo the prompt) 
> *before* hitting enter.
> Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have 
> to explicitly press some key to modify the command line.

Hm - can you also *modify* the boot commands? Say, the boot command
in lilo.conf contains "vga=123" and now, for whatever reason, you
want "vga=ask" - what to do?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

2006-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs

Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 13:34 schrieb ext Enrico Weigelt:

> I've just installed cron and wanted to edit an user's crontab
> with "crontab -e". This didn't work: permission denied.

Looks quite normal.

> It is easy to fix, by "chmod ugo+s", but after an update,
> the shit starts again ...

Or by editing /etc/cron.allow (may be a different file, depending on cron 
flavour).

> Smells like a bug.

Works as designed.

Bye...

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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> I've just installed cron and wanted to edit an user's crontab
> with "crontab -e". This didn't work: permission denied.

Correct.

> It is easy to fix, by "chmod ugo+s", but after an update,
> the shit starts again ...

No, that's not a fix. That's a break in.

> Smells like a bug.

How do you get that idea? It rather smells, as if you haven't
done the slightest checks and it sounds as if everything is
working as intended.

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On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:39, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> True. But with lilo, you've got to modify the lilo.conf (or what's
> it called?) and run lilo, don't you?
>
> Or can you modify the boot command line "on-the-fly" in the boot
> menu?

Of course: after selecting an entry from the lilo menu, just append the 
parameters you need to the command line (shown at lilo the prompt) 
*before* hitting enter.
Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

2006-06-21 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> I've just installed cron and wanted to edit an user's crontab
> with "crontab -e". This didn't work: permission denied.

Remember that the user must be in the cron group to be able to use cron/crontab.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

Daniel Iliev wrote:
>> Another way: If you use grub, you can edit the boot command line. Add
>> "init=/bin/sh" to the end of the boot command line.
>>
>> Alexander Skwar
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> 
> The same method applies to "lilo" too.

True. But with lilo, you've got to modify the lilo.conf (or what's
it called?) and run lilo, don't you?

Or can you modify the boot command line "on-the-fly" in the boot
menu?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem: unprivileged user cannot use /usr/bin/crontab

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:34, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>
> I've just installed cron and wanted to edit an user's crontab
> with "crontab -e". This didn't work: permission denied.
>
> It is easy to fix, by "chmod ugo+s", but after an update,
> the shit starts again ...
>
> Smells like a bug.

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Hi folks,


I've just installed cron and wanted to edit an user's crontab
with "crontab -e". This didn't work: permission denied.

It is easy to fix, by "chmod ugo+s", but after an update,
the shit starts again ...

Smells like a bug.


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[gentoo-user] Portage: missing pieces

2006-06-21 Thread Molle Bestefich


I think a piece might be missing from Portage.

I'll depict my workflow as an example.

I'm preparing to upgrade:
# emerge --sync
# emerge -Dp world
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXinerama-1.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXi-1.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libXrandr-1.1.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/randrproto-1.1.2)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.0)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libdrm-2.0.1)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/glproto-1.4.7)
[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.0.3)
... etc, lots of blockers ...

Ok, let's try and find why it wants to downgrade to xorg-x11-6.9:
# equery d xorg-x11-6.9
[ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11-6.9... ]


#

Ok, no reason, apparently.  Maybe it's already merged then?
# emerge -C xorg-x11-6.9
--- Couldn't find 'xorg-x11-6.9' to unmerge.

Nope.  Now I'm getting uncertain.  Don't I have xorg-x11 at all?
# emerge -C xorg-x11

x11-base/xorg-x11
   selected: 7.0-r1
  protected: none
omitted: none


'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.



Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
(Control-C to abort)...
Unmerging in: 5 4 3



Exiting on signal 2

Whoops.  Yep, it's there.

Ok, so status is that I have xorg-x11-7.0, I don't have 6.9, no
packages actually wants xorg-x11-6.9, but whenever I use "emerge -D
world", Portage sees it as a blocker anyway.

Is there a piece missing in this puzzle, in particular the one that
will tell me why on earth Portage thinks version 6.9 is a blocker?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Daniel Iliev


> Another way: If you use grub, you can edit the boot command line. Add
> "init=/bin/sh" to the end of the boot command line.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

Paul Stear wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote:
> 
>> > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state?
>> > What tools do I need?
>>
>> In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH in from
>> another box. As a last resort you could boot a live CD chroot and fix
>> things.
> How do I boot without x?

Hit "I" when the system prompts if "interactive mode" mode should be used.
I usually hold I all the way from after the boot loader until something
happens...

Another way: If you use grub, you can edit the boot command line. Add
"init=/bin/sh" to the end of the boot command line.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Boris Fersing


2006/6/21, Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote:

> > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state?
> > What tools do I need?
>
> In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH in from
> another box. As a last resort you could boot a live CD chroot and fix
> things.
How do I boot without x? (I've got a feeling I should know this) I am using
grub.


You have 2 options :

- add 'single' or '1' to the grub boot params.
- press I (interactive mode) during init and then choose to NOT start
xdm when the init script asks for it.

HTH.

Boris.


> > 2. I have an rsynced backup on an external usb harddrive, but unless I
> > can loggin how can I restore the files from the backup?
>
> By booting from a live CD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stear

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote:

> > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state?
> > What tools do I need?
>
> In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH in from
> another box. As a last resort you could boot a live CD chroot and fix
> things.
How do I boot without x? (I've got a feeling I should know this) I am using 
grub.
> > 2. I have an rsynced backup on an external usb harddrive, but unless I
> > can loggin how can I restore the files from the backup?
>
> By booting from a live CD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote:

> I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all
> went well until the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had
> a flashing loggin box.  I could not even get another terminal using alt
> F1-F7. So I am faced with not being able to loggin at all.  This raises
> a few questions about my own inadequacies :-
> 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state?
> What tools do I need?

In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH in from
another box. As a last resort you could boot a live CD chroot and fix
things.

> 2. I have an rsynced backup on an external usb harddrive, but unless I
> can loggin how can I restore the files from the backup?

By booting from a live CD.

> 3. It appears that a freetype update was the cause of this failure, but
> this information was hard to find on the forum's (I was lucky). I had
> an old installation cd and chroot'ed and emerged the previous version
> of freetype, rebooted and all is well (I hope).

Yes, it was a patch to freetype that caused this. I got bitten too.

> 4. How can an update like this get into ~x86 tree when it plainly
> causes a major problem?

Because ~arch is for testing. A ~ keyword only guarantees that it works
for the ebuild's author, that's why it is called testing, you are the
tester. Had this bug made it through to the stable tree, you would have
cause for complaint.

> I wonder if I should revert to just x86.

If you are not willing to accept the risks and responsibilities of
running a testing system, then the answer is probably "yes".

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Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Caster

On 6/21/06, Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all went welluntil the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had a flashingloggin box. I could not even get another terminal using alt F1-F7. So I am
faced with not being able to loggin at all. This raises a few questionsabout my own inadequacies :-1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state? Whattools do I need?
You answered yourself in point 3. It's also possible to boot in single user mode (edit kernel line in grub and add "1" to the end) and remove xdm from default bootlevel, so on next reboot you are console only and can downgrade freetype.
2. I have an rsynced backup on an external usb harddrive, but unless I can
loggin how can I restore the files from the backup?Again, single user or livecd.
3. It appears that a freetype update was the cause of this failure, but thisinformation was hard to find on the forum's (I was lucky). I had an oldinstallation cd and chroot'ed and emerged the previous version of freetype,
rebooted and all is well (I hope).Good. 4. How can an update like this get into ~x86 tree when it plainly causes a
major problem? I wonder if I should revert to just x86.That's what ~arch is for, packages are TESTED there, not all problems can be known beforehand. Of course after the bug was reported, the first thing they should have done was to
package.mask it to prevent problems even for more users, because now it was a known major problem.But still if you run ~arch, you should be ready for problems. If you don't want, revert to arch...Caster

[gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stear

Hi,
I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all went well 
until the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had a flashing 
loggin box.  I could not even get another terminal using alt F1-F7. So I am 
faced with not being able to loggin at all.  This raises a few questions 
about my own inadequacies :-
1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state?  What 
tools do I need?
2. I have an rsynced backup on an external usb harddrive, but unless I can 
loggin how can I restore the files from the backup?
3. It appears that a freetype update was the cause of this failure, but this 
information was hard to find on the forum's (I was lucky). I had an old 
installation cd and chroot'ed and emerged the previous version of freetype, 
rebooted and all is well (I hope).
4. How can an update like this get into ~x86 tree when it plainly causes a 
major problem?  I wonder if I should revert to just x86.

Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2GB of RAM

2006-06-21 Thread Ralph Slooten

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Hi David,

David Klempner wrote:
> Actually, I side with the kernel developers on this; the fact that
> they're hiding the VMSPLIT options is basically a subtle hint that they
> don't want people using them who don't *really* know what they're doing.

Like me .. hence all the questions ;-) I just want to be able to use my
full RAM, as having 2GB and using < 1GB is just "uncool" ;-)

> I strongly suggest using CONFIG_HIGHMEM, and sticking with the default
> 3/1 split. (I mean, it's *slightly* slower, but on the other hand what
> caused them to do this was random breaking of java that took a long time
> to diagnose.) That said...

OK. I definitely will keep this in mind.

>> I noticed too that if I select the embedded option, but unselect all new
>> options that come with it I still get the memory split options. Is this
>> the right way to go?
> 
> NO. As in, all of those options (with the exception of
> CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS) default to yes, and all of those defaults
> are very important. If you disable them, you will, for example, break
> most of the kernel's logging (printk), lose the ability to get core
> dumps, and lose futexes (which will break a lot of modern threading).
> Basically, saying no to any option option on that page (with the
> exception of the KALLSYMS stuff) *WILL* break your system.
> 
> So, make sure that everything, except CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS, on
> that page is enabled. (that might be what you meant in the first place,
> of course, but it's worth making sure...) All you need to be able to
> select the VMSPLIT options is CONFIG_EMBEDDED (that is, saying yes to
> the "Configure standard kernel features (for small systems)" item) which
> doesn't actually have any impact on the code.

Sorry, but one thing remains unclear. Ignoring the fact that adding
embedded extras to your kernel on a non-embedded system just to get the
the VMSPLIT options is (in my opinion) confusing and unlogical, is this
step actually needed considering I (according to your advice) would take
the default VMSPLIT anyway?
What I mean is simply: If I enable HIGHMEM4GB to allow the kernel to use
my 2GB of RAM, do I still need to add the embedded options (as you
explain above), or is simply using HIGHMEM4GB enough? It's maybe a tough
question is ask, but you definitely seem to know exactly what you are
talking about ;-)

> Hope this helps.

Is sure does! Any advice to the above question? With that I should be
complete I think ;-) Where do you get your information from btw (I'm
curious as I didn't find much via Google explaining as clear as you did)?

Thanks again,
Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip: significant frame loss during rip

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:53:18 -0400, fire-eyes wrote:

> "It seems that transcode ripping stopped short. The movie has 187351
> frames, but only 152564 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with
> your transcode/libdvdread installation, resp. a problem with this
> specific DVD."

I see this error, but usually near the start of the rip. I get rid of it
by setting "Grab subtitle preview images" to No.

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