Re: [gina-users] Hello! + question
Yeah. you are write...Events has answered me all the time...And I agree with your ideas about Gina...But, for the price, it has a lot of "bang for the buck" and it close the gap for the home project recordist...for under 500, you have a lot of power under your fingers...That´s how I see it...A very very useful toyI am finishing a album on a pro studio, but believe me...most of my pre-production stuff has been done with Gina, and I would say that 40% of my home tracks will be transfered to the studio and this will save me a lot of money...:-))) Alfredo Gareth wrote: > Hi Alfredo > > Yeah, I've done all that with the consumer/pro thing. Event said > "we'll pass your comments onto our software developers" and I've > heard nothing since. Not that I blame them, particularly, on the > whole they've been better with product support than most people and > have always at least responded to my emails. I guess that things like > this don't come up very often as the Gina is more of a semi-pro than > a pro card (they'll catch a lot more flak if the Layla has these > sorts of problems as well though!). > > Gareth. > > > Gareth...just guessing...: have you tried swithing back and forth the Consumer or >Pro > > option for Gina s/pdf under Gina's drivers? Some people also have comented that >they had > > to re-start Windows for that to be effect...Not in case, but maybe in yours...who > > knows...What does Event says about it? > > > > Alfredo > > > > Gareth wrote: > > > > > Hi Alfredo > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. I don't think it's a problem with the sampler, > > > as I've been told by someone else that they had problems using the > > > S/PDIF I/O for data (rather than audio) transfer too - in fact, it > > > was this person who suggested doing the the 20bit-16bit file > > > conversion thing to work around the problem. It's possible that the > > > Akai S/PDIF implementation is slightly different from the norm, > > > although as far as I know most people have no problems backing up > > > data to DAT recorders using the Akai's S/PDIF connections. That's > > > what makes me think that it must be the Gina at fault. > > > > > > Gareth > > > > > > > Hi Gareth...I am using Gina for mixing to a DA-30, MKII dat recorder, then >transfer > > > > digitally back to my audio editing sequencer (Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.01), >adding some > > > > mastering...SoundForge, Wavelab...and then back to the DA-30 digital, no >problem at > > > > all...I have heard than some older stuff have some differences into how they > > > > implement the S/Pdif configurations...i.e., older DA-30s had such limitations >and > > > > one was unable to make digital transfers among the dat recorder and a digital >card > > > > but only if removing some internal jumper, very trickiy stuff only to be >handled > > > > with a manual at your side... > > > > > > > > In my own case, the dat recorder automatically recognizes 44.1 or 48hz from the > > > > Gina...Perhaps you should check your sampler ?? Just guessing and trying to >help > > > > > > > > Alfredo > > > > > > > > Gareth wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi people > > > > > > > > > > Just a quick mail to introduce myself to the list. My name's Gareth > > > > > Metford, I'm in Preston in the UK and I have been using an Event Gina > > > > > for about 3 months. I've had a fair few problems with it but > > > > > everything seems to be running pretty smoothly now (fingers > > > > > crossed!). I'm using a P133/32Mb/3.2Gb, and other equipment in my > > > > > studio includes an Akai S2800 4Mb w/digital I/O, Novation > > > > > BassStation, Alesis Quadraverb+ and...that's about it. I was > > > > > wondering if other Gina users had been having problems > > > > > performing data transfers using the Gina's S/PDIF I/O? I've been > > > > > using Wavelab to record data dumps from my sampler, but I've found > > > > > that the only way to do this effectively is to record the data at > > > > > 20-bit resolution, then convert it to 16-bit before returning it to > > > > > the sampler. Someone told me that there is a problem with the Gina > > > > > S/PDIF input, which involves the last bit of the signal being > > > > > replaced with a random '0' or '1'. Any further information would be > > > > > very gratefully received! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Gareth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael >Gira > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Alfredo Pereira > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Montevideo, Uruguay > > > > > > > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, > > > > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > > > > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, > > > > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [gina-users] Hello! + question
Hi Alfredo Yeah, I've done all that with the consumer/pro thing. Event said "we'll pass your comments onto our software developers" and I've heard nothing since. Not that I blame them, particularly, on the whole they've been better with product support than most people and have always at least responded to my emails. I guess that things like this don't come up very often as the Gina is more of a semi-pro than a pro card (they'll catch a lot more flak if the Layla has these sorts of problems as well though!). Gareth. > Gareth...just guessing...: have you tried swithing back and forth the Consumer or Pro > option for Gina s/pdf under Gina's drivers? Some people also have comented that they >had > to re-start Windows for that to be effect...Not in case, but maybe in yours...who > knows...What does Event says about it? > > Alfredo > > Gareth wrote: > > > Hi Alfredo > > > > Thanks for the reply. I don't think it's a problem with the sampler, > > as I've been told by someone else that they had problems using the > > S/PDIF I/O for data (rather than audio) transfer too - in fact, it > > was this person who suggested doing the the 20bit-16bit file > > conversion thing to work around the problem. It's possible that the > > Akai S/PDIF implementation is slightly different from the norm, > > although as far as I know most people have no problems backing up > > data to DAT recorders using the Akai's S/PDIF connections. That's > > what makes me think that it must be the Gina at fault. > > > > Gareth > > > > > Hi Gareth...I am using Gina for mixing to a DA-30, MKII dat recorder, then >transfer > > > digitally back to my audio editing sequencer (Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.01), adding >some > > > mastering...SoundForge, Wavelab...and then back to the DA-30 digital, no problem >at > > > all...I have heard than some older stuff have some differences into how they > > > implement the S/Pdif configurations...i.e., older DA-30s had such limitations and > > > one was unable to make digital transfers among the dat recorder and a digital >card > > > but only if removing some internal jumper, very trickiy stuff only to be handled > > > with a manual at your side... > > > > > > In my own case, the dat recorder automatically recognizes 44.1 or 48hz from the > > > Gina...Perhaps you should check your sampler ?? Just guessing and trying to >help > > > > > > Alfredo > > > > > > Gareth wrote: > > > > > > > Hi people > > > > > > > > Just a quick mail to introduce myself to the list. My name's Gareth > > > > Metford, I'm in Preston in the UK and I have been using an Event Gina > > > > for about 3 months. I've had a fair few problems with it but > > > > everything seems to be running pretty smoothly now (fingers > > > > crossed!). I'm using a P133/32Mb/3.2Gb, and other equipment in my > > > > studio includes an Akai S2800 4Mb w/digital I/O, Novation > > > > BassStation, Alesis Quadraverb+ and...that's about it. I was > > > > wondering if other Gina users had been having problems > > > > performing data transfers using the Gina's S/PDIF I/O? I've been > > > > using Wavelab to record data dumps from my sampler, but I've found > > > > that the only way to do this effectively is to record the data at > > > > 20-bit resolution, then convert it to 16-bit before returning it to > > > > the sampler. Someone told me that there is a problem with the Gina > > > > S/PDIF input, which involves the last bit of the signal being > > > > replaced with a random '0' or '1'. Any further information would be > > > > very gratefully received! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Gareth > > > > > > > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael >Gira > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alfredo Pereira > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Montevideo, Uruguay > > > > > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, > > > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > > > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, > > > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira > > > > -- > Alfredo Pereira > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Montevideo, Uruguay > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira
Re: [gina-users] Hello! + question
Gareth...just guessing...: have you tried swithing back and forth the Consumer or Pro option for Gina s/pdf under Gina´s drivers? Some people also have comented that they had to re-start Windows for that to be effect...Not in case, but maybe in yours...who knows...What does Event says about it? Alfredo Gareth wrote: > Hi Alfredo > > Thanks for the reply. I don't think it's a problem with the sampler, > as I've been told by someone else that they had problems using the > S/PDIF I/O for data (rather than audio) transfer too - in fact, it > was this person who suggested doing the the 20bit-16bit file > conversion thing to work around the problem. It's possible that the > Akai S/PDIF implementation is slightly different from the norm, > although as far as I know most people have no problems backing up > data to DAT recorders using the Akai's S/PDIF connections. That's > what makes me think that it must be the Gina at fault. > > Gareth > > > Hi Gareth...I am using Gina for mixing to a DA-30, MKII dat recorder, then transfer > > digitally back to my audio editing sequencer (Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.01), adding >some > > mastering...SoundForge, Wavelab...and then back to the DA-30 digital, no problem at > > all...I have heard than some older stuff have some differences into how they > > implement the S/Pdif configurations...i.e., older DA-30s had such limitations and > > one was unable to make digital transfers among the dat recorder and a digital card > > but only if removing some internal jumper, very trickiy stuff only to be handled > > with a manual at your side... > > > > In my own case, the dat recorder automatically recognizes 44.1 or 48hz from the > > Gina...Perhaps you should check your sampler ?? Just guessing and trying to >help > > > > Alfredo > > > > Gareth wrote: > > > > > Hi people > > > > > > Just a quick mail to introduce myself to the list. My name's Gareth > > > Metford, I'm in Preston in the UK and I have been using an Event Gina > > > for about 3 months. I've had a fair few problems with it but > > > everything seems to be running pretty smoothly now (fingers > > > crossed!). I'm using a P133/32Mb/3.2Gb, and other equipment in my > > > studio includes an Akai S2800 4Mb w/digital I/O, Novation > > > BassStation, Alesis Quadraverb+ and...that's about it. I was > > > wondering if other Gina users had been having problems > > > performing data transfers using the Gina's S/PDIF I/O? I've been > > > using Wavelab to record data dumps from my sampler, but I've found > > > that the only way to do this effectively is to record the data at > > > 20-bit resolution, then convert it to 16-bit before returning it to > > > the sampler. Someone told me that there is a problem with the Gina > > > S/PDIF input, which involves the last bit of the signal being > > > replaced with a random '0' or '1'. Any further information would be > > > very gratefully received! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gareth > > > > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira > > > > > > > > -- > > Alfredo Pereira > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Montevideo, Uruguay > > > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, > > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, > > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira -- Alfredo Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Montevideo, Uruguay Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gina-users] Hello! + question
Hi Alfredo Thanks for the reply. I don't think it's a problem with the sampler, as I've been told by someone else that they had problems using the S/PDIF I/O for data (rather than audio) transfer too - in fact, it was this person who suggested doing the the 20bit-16bit file conversion thing to work around the problem. It's possible that the Akai S/PDIF implementation is slightly different from the norm, although as far as I know most people have no problems backing up data to DAT recorders using the Akai's S/PDIF connections. That's what makes me think that it must be the Gina at fault. Gareth > Hi Gareth...I am using Gina for mixing to a DA-30, MKII dat recorder, then transfer > digitally back to my audio editing sequencer (Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.01), adding some > mastering...SoundForge, Wavelab...and then back to the DA-30 digital, no problem at > all...I have heard than some older stuff have some differences into how they > implement the S/Pdif configurations...i.e., older DA-30s had such limitations and > one was unable to make digital transfers among the dat recorder and a digital card > but only if removing some internal jumper, very trickiy stuff only to be handled > with a manual at your side... > > In my own case, the dat recorder automatically recognizes 44.1 or 48hz from the > Gina...Perhaps you should check your sampler ?? Just guessing and trying to help > > Alfredo > > Gareth wrote: > > > Hi people > > > > Just a quick mail to introduce myself to the list. My name's Gareth > > Metford, I'm in Preston in the UK and I have been using an Event Gina > > for about 3 months. I've had a fair few problems with it but > > everything seems to be running pretty smoothly now (fingers > > crossed!). I'm using a P133/32Mb/3.2Gb, and other equipment in my > > studio includes an Akai S2800 4Mb w/digital I/O, Novation > > BassStation, Alesis Quadraverb+ and...that's about it. I was > > wondering if other Gina users had been having problems > > performing data transfers using the Gina's S/PDIF I/O? I've been > > using Wavelab to record data dumps from my sampler, but I've found > > that the only way to do this effectively is to record the data at > > 20-bit resolution, then convert it to 16-bit before returning it to > > the sampler. Someone told me that there is a problem with the Gina > > S/PDIF input, which involves the last bit of the signal being > > replaced with a random '0' or '1'. Any further information would be > > very gratefully received! > > > > Regards, > > > > Gareth > > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira > > > > -- > Alfredo Pereira > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Montevideo, Uruguay > > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, > * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, > * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira
Re: [gina-users] Hello! + question
Hi Gareth...I am using Gina for mixing to a DA-30, MKII dat recorder, then transfer digitally back to my audio editing sequencer (Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.01), adding some mastering...SoundForge, Wavelab...and then back to the DA-30 digital, no problem at all...I have heard than some older stuff have some differences into how they implement the S/Pdif configurations...i.e., older DA-30s had such limitations and one was unable to make digital transfers among the dat recorder and a digital card but only if removing some internal jumper, very trickiy stuff only to be handled with a manual at your side... In my own case, the dat recorder automatically recognizes 44.1 or 48hz from the Gina...Perhaps you should check your sampler ?? Just guessing and trying to help Alfredo Gareth wrote: > Hi people > > Just a quick mail to introduce myself to the list. My name's Gareth > Metford, I'm in Preston in the UK and I have been using an Event Gina > for about 3 months. I've had a fair few problems with it but > everything seems to be running pretty smoothly now (fingers > crossed!). I'm using a P133/32Mb/3.2Gb, and other equipment in my > studio includes an Akai S2800 4Mb w/digital I/O, Novation > BassStation, Alesis Quadraverb+ and...that's about it. I was > wondering if other Gina users had been having problems > performing data transfers using the Gina's S/PDIF I/O? I've been > using Wavelab to record data dumps from my sampler, but I've found > that the only way to do this effectively is to record the data at > 20-bit resolution, then convert it to 16-bit before returning it to > the sampler. Someone told me that there is a problem with the Gina > S/PDIF input, which involves the last bit of the signal being > replaced with a random '0' or '1'. Any further information would be > very gratefully received! > > Regards, > > Gareth > > > "And the pain that burns my mind is the shout of freedom's life." - Michael Gira -- Alfredo Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Montevideo, Uruguay Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 11026111 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/11026111 or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
