Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards / Subscription
It's in the headers of every email =) Reply-To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/options.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com>, <mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/private.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com> List-Help: <mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/listinfo.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com>, <mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sender: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Just send an email to hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com with subject "subscribe" and no text in the body from the email address you want to sub. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Jeff Lane wrote: > Hi all, > This is for anyone. I can't, for the life of me, recall how we subscribed > to > this list, it's been a while. I have someone that would like to > join..definite brain drain here and any constructive help would be very > much > appreciatedTIA > > You're six is clear, just put your nose on the horizon and enjoy the > sunset. > > > Jeff > > > I'm good for chipping in too. > > --- > Brian Weeden > Secure World Foundation > +1 202 683-8534 > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, "Robert Martin Jr." > wrote: > > > Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) > > > > > > lopaka > > > > > > > > From: DSinc > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards > > > > Hey Jeff, > > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > > sharewith those that respond. > > Thanks for your service! > > Duncan > > > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > >> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > >> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to > >> break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a > >> Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > >> groupJeff > >> > >> > >> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > >> to contribute now. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> > >> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > >>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > >>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > >>> List/enterprise. > >>> Duncan > >>> > >>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > >>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long > time. > >>>> Willing to donate. > >>>> fp > >>>> > >>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > >>>>> Collective, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who > >>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the > >>>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. > >> __ > >> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > >> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > >> Franklin, 1755) > >> > >> > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards / Subscription
Hi all, This is for anyone. I can't, for the life of me, recall how we subscribed to this list, it's been a while. I have someone that would like to join..definite brain drain here and any constructive help would be very much appreciatedTIA You're six is clear, just put your nose on the horizon and enjoy the sunset. Jeff I'm good for chipping in too. --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, "Robert Martin Jr." wrote: > Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) > > > lopaka > > > > From: DSinc > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM > Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of >> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to >> break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a >> Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a >> groupJeff >> >> >> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy >> to contribute now. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>> List/enterprise. >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. >>>> Willing to donate. >>>> fp >>>> >>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>>> Collective, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the >>>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >> __ >> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin >> Franklin, 1755) >> >>
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
At 10:23 PM 3/28/2013, you wrote: I haven't posted in a long time, but it's been awesome seeing so many old names on the list! I have a lot of fond memories over the years, with a lot of lurking over the past decade. I joined the overclocking group and Cyrix group in highschool, and am married with two kids now. Hard to believe...time flies. Glad to hear everyone is doing well! Scott Hear hear! Kinda wished Glasswolf was still around though :( -- Jin-Wei Tioh http://jwtioh.bluesonic.net "Death is just God's way of dropping Carrier Detect"
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I haven't posted in a long time, but it's been awesome seeing so many old names on the list! I have a lot of fond memories over the years, with a lot of lurking over the past decade. I joined the overclocking group and Cyrix group in highschool, and am married with two kids now. Hard to believe...time flies. Glad to hear everyone is doing well! Scott On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Jim Edwards wrote: > Hey guys. > I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com > Jim > >> Collective, >> >> >> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays >> for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this >> year, any info would be appreciated. >> > >
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Great to hear you're ok, Jim. A bunch of us were concerned about your healthJeff Hey guys. I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com Jim > Collective, > > >Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who > pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end > of this year, any info would be appreciated. >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
My bad Good morning to ya! I have been slacking on the maintenance of the list. If I need to spiff things up in someway, let me know. The domain won't expire. I still kick myself for letting .org go. I'm glad you guys are still here chatting it up, y'all make THG autopilot real easy. ;) How can I help ya? If you want to donate, you don't have to by any means but... jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com for paypal. Jim > Hey guys. > I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com > Jim > >> Collective, >> >> >>Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays >> for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this >> year, any info would be appreciated. >> > > >
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Hey guys. I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com Jim > Collective, > > >Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays > for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this > year, any info would be appreciated. >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I turned 65 this year (March). I feel happy with the List. I do so know 'we' would all get older over time way back when. I'm just happy that so many of us have stayed in the pool. Duncan On 03/21/2013 18:52, Jeff Lane wrote: I'll be 78 in June. A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped Jeff 2013 Who's the oldest on the list? I just turned 61 in Feb On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol. Julian On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc wrote: Thane, Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' ! Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes. Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO. Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities. So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor. I do wish this 'Collective' survives. Happy you have stuck around, personally. Duncan On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I'll be 78 in June. A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped Jeff 2013 Who's the oldest on the list? I just turned 61 in Feb On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: > Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol. > > > Julian > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc wrote: > >> Thane, >> Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' ! >> Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes. >> Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO. >> Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities. >> So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor. >> I do wish this 'Collective' survives. >> Happy you have stuck around, personally. >> Duncan >> >> >> On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote: >> >>> At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>> I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) >>> Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, >>> and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw >>> stones about anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without >>> question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. >>> >>> I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I >>> think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) >>> >>> T >>> >>> >>> >>>
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Who's the oldest on the list? I just turned 61 in Feb On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol. Julian On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc wrote: Thane, Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' ! Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes. Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO. Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities. So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor. I do wish this 'Collective' survives. Happy you have stuck around, personally. Duncan On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) T
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Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol. Julian On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc wrote: > Thane, > Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' ! > Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes. > Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO. > Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities. > So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor. > I do wish this 'Collective' survives. > Happy you have stuck around, personally. > Duncan > > > On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >> At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >> >>> I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) >>> >> >> Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and >> probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about >> anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without question, the best >> mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. >> >> I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I think >> I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) >> >> T >> >> >> >> >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Thane, Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' ! Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes. Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO. Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities. So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor. I do wish this 'Collective' survives. Happy you have stuck around, personally. Duncan On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) T
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Split second truce, just as question during the war lull, have any of you that have Jim's phone number and/or address heard anything as of yet? A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped Jeff 2013 I'm definitely never going to grow up! Julian On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) > > Sent from my mobile device. > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote: > >> > >> Alex Lee wrote: > >> > >>> jim graciously picked up the slack and has been maintaining the > >>> list ever since; died down for a little bit but he resurrected it. > >> I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point. > >> Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the > >> many helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all. > >> Al > > > > Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took > > me > longer? :) > > This list is full of good people and good information, it is not > > going > anywhere. > > >
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At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) Heh heh. Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about anyone here being a big mouth. This list is, without question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it. I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years. I think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :) T
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I'm definitely never going to grow up! Julian On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) > > Sent from my mobile device. > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote: > >> > >> Alex Lee wrote: > >> > >>> jim graciously picked up the slack and has > >>> been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he > >>> resurrected it. > >> I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point. > >> Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many > >> helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all. > >> Al > > > > Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me > longer? :) > > This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going > anywhere. > > >
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I'm 54 going on 55. Have no plans to grow up. Flame war, anyone? :) Sent from my mobile device. On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote: >> >> Alex Lee wrote: >> >>> jim graciously picked up the slack and has >>> been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he >>> resurrected it. >> I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point. >> Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many >> helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all. >> Al > > Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me > longer? :) > This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going > anywhere. >
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On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote: Alex Lee wrote: jim graciously picked up the slack and has been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he resurrected it. I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point. Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all. Al Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me longer? :) This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going anywhere.
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Alex Lee wrote: > jim graciously picked up the slack and has > been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he > resurrected it. I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point. Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all. Al
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I joined back in the Overclocker's era. Our computers and phones, today , would have been just a dream then. I've always been mostly a lurker and have learned so much from the discussions. I'm in a nursing home now, but would chip in as much as I can to continue this list. Thanks to all.
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I joined that list back then too, I am more of a lurker as well. This group has been a source of info, and entertainment sometimes for me since it began. It is nice to have a group of people with their different specialties available for brain picking. I would be willing to pitch in to help keep this alive. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:32 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? T
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On 3/18/13 9:39 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: The best gaming experience I've had in the last few years was when I discovered Minecraft a few days ago, which is far from demanding as far as hardware is concerned. Work and sleep is another matter entirely :) Check out the feed the beast packs once you've grown tired of Vanilla :)
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lol, I've been a member since it was the "tom's overclocking" list, lol. I think I joined somewhere around 1995/6. Sabre (Julian) Julian On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 > generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top > games these days are hard work. Games like Doom & Quake used to be fun. > > > On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from >> scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips >> on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers >> being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the >> applications. >> >> The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by >> overclocking a Celeron are way past. >> >> --- >> Brian Weeden >> >> On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski wrote: >> >> I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about >>> '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the >>> list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, >>> the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and >>> I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! >>> >>> On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: >>>> hardware-bounces@lists.**hardwaregroup.com >>>> [mailto:hardware-bounces@**lists.hardwaregroup.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Christopher >>>> Fisk >>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM >>>> To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com >>>> Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards >>>> >>>> You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of >>>> people on >>>> the list consider you a new member =) >>>> On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: >>>> >>>> That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not >>>>> moderated >>>>> it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a >>>>> >>>> credit >>>> >>>>> to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am >>>>> primarily >>>>> just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the >>>>> group.**.Jeff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Jeff, >>>>> A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this >>>>> "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to >>>>> sharewith those that respond. >>>>> Thanks for your service! >>>>> Duncan >>>>> >>>>> On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of >>>>>> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break >>>>>> it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean >>>>>> vet I am all too familiar with silence in a >>>>>> group.**...Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy >>>>>> to contribute now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>>>>>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>>>>>> List/enterprise. >>>>>>> Duncan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> time. >>>> >>>>> Willing to donate. >>>>>>>> fp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Collective, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know >>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the >>>>>>>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __** >>>>>> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >>>>>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin >>>>>> Franklin, 1755) >>>>>> >>>>> >
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The best gaming experience I've had in the last few years was when I discovered Minecraft a few days ago, which is far from demanding as far as hardware is concerned. Work and sleep is another matter entirely :) --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 21:17, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 > generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top > games these days are hard work. Games like Doom & Quake used to be fun. > > On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: >> Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from >> scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on >> overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers >> being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the >> applications. >> >> The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking >> a Celeron are way past. >> >> --- >> Brian Weeden >> >> On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski wrote: >> >>> I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about >>> '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the >>> list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, >>> the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and >>> I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! >>> >>> On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: >>>> Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >>>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher >>>> Fisk >>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM >>>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >>>> Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards >>>> >>>> You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on >>>> the list consider you a new member =) >>>> On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: >>>> >>>>> That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated >>>>> it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a >>>> credit >>>>> to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily >>>>> just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the >>>>> group..Jeff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Jeff, >>>>> A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this >>>>> "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to >>>>> sharewith those that respond. >>>>> Thanks for your service! >>>>> Duncan >>>>> >>>>> On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >>>>>> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of >>>>>> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break >>>>>> it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean >>>>>> vet I am all too familiar with silence in a >>>>>> groupJeff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy >>>>>> to contribute now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>>>>>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>>>>>> List/enterprise. >>>>>>> Duncan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>>>>>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long >>>> time. >>>>>>>> Willing to donate. >>>>>>>> fp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>>>>>>> Collective, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>>>>>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the >>>>>>>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>>>>> __ >>>>>> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >>>>>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin >>>>>> Franklin, 1755) >
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I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top games these days are hard work. Games like Doom & Quake used to be fun. On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski wrote: I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
SSDs were/are the about the last meaningful upgrade. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:54 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. > I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list > when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the > P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was > one of the first to get a locked version, dang! > > On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: >> Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher >> Fisk >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards >> >> You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on >> the list consider you a new member =) >> On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: >> >>> That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated >>> it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a >> credit >>> to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily >>> just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the >>> group..Jeff >>> >>> >>> Hey Jeff, >>> A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this >>> "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to >>> sharewith those that respond. >>> Thanks for your service! >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >>>> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of >>>> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break >>>> it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean >>>> vet I am all too familiar with silence in a >>>> groupJeff >>>> >>>> >>>> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy >>>> to contribute now. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>>>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>>>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>>>> List/enterprise. >>>>> Duncan >>>>> >>>>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>>>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long >> time. >>>>>> Willing to donate. >>>>>> fp >>>>>> >>>>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>>>>> Collective, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>>>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the >>>>>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>>> __ >>>> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >>>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin >>>> Franklin, 1755) >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
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Hmyour thoughts are very nice, Duncan, but you have to be thinking of someone else that know is knowledgeable, certainly not deserved here.Jeff:) Jeff, Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have dropped enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold! Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests. Fine. I suspect many are still out there. Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about this... any more... Best, Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote: > That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not > moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, > certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. > Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the > comes through the > group..Jeff > > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of >> folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to >> break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a >> Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a >> groupJeff >> >> >> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy >> to contribute now. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>> List/enterprise. >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > Collective, > > > Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know > who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at > the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >> __ >> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin >> Franklin, 1755) >> >> >
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yes it is, i lurk more than ever now. i remember the early days where hardwaregroup.org resided on a tower PC in my dorm room, briefly as school admins gave me a stern talking to and warning letter about hosting external sites. that letter is still somewhere in one of my books in storage. jim graciously picked up the slack and has been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he resurrected it. chris reeves still always around, i remember him being a chris wong due to losing a bet to his wife. other names like glasswolf no longer visible here. bryan seitz was a very opinionated younger man in his college days. harry macgregor is/was a striking astute kid when he first joined too. james boswell liked to rile up the conversations every now and again. and for those that dont know, anand (yes, the anandtech.com) was briefly on the list in the early days, he was probably no older than a teen then. -alex / flush On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on > the list consider you a new member =) > On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: > > > That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not > moderated > > it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a > credit > > to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am > primarily > > just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the > > group..Jeff > > > > > > Hey Jeff, > > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > > sharewith those that respond. > > Thanks for your service! > > Duncan > > > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > > > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > > > folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break > > > it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean > > > vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > > > groupJeff > > > > > > > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > > > to contribute now. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > > >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > > >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > > >> List/enterprise. > > >> Duncan > > >> > > >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > > >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long > time. > > >>> Willing to donate. > > >>> fp > > >>> > > >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > > Collective, > > > > > > Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who > > pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the > > end of this year, any info would be appreciated. > > >>> > > > __ > > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > > > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > > > Franklin, 1755) > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Don't recall exactly when I joined, but it was in the mid to late 1990s. I remember the get together in Phx, that Kevin Lam decided to fly in for from .au -Harry On 3/18/13 4:36 PM, Bryan Seiz wrote: On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!
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On 3/18/2013 7:42 PM, DSinc wrote: Yes. True. The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory. And, at the time, we (new list) focused on overclocking..initially... :) Duncan Speaking of the mailing list, Mailman 3.0 should be out soon :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3DRdFKW_E
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Yes. True. The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory. And, at the time, we (new list) focused on overclocking..initially... :) Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:31, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? T
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I went to one lan session thrown by Jim, but no clue when that was. On Mar 18, 2013 7:36 PM, "Bryan Seiz" wrote: > On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >> I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe >> run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? >> >> > I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember > going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha! >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: > That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated > it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit > to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily > just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the > group..Jeff > > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > > folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break > > it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean > > vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > > groupJeff > > > > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > > to contribute now. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > >> List/enterprise. > >> Duncan > >> > >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. > >>> Willing to donate. > >>> fp > >>> > >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > >>>> Collective, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who > >>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the > >>>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. > >>> > > __ > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > > Franklin, 1755) > > > > > >
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I was just reflecting on the list is all. There are a few online communities I was lucky enough to get in on in the early days. Heck, I have a 5 digit slashdot id. =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:21 PM, "DSinc" wrote: > Chris, > And your point is ? > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote: > >> You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people >> on >> the list consider you a new member =) >> On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: >> >> That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not >>> moderated >>> it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a >>> credit >>> to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am >>> primarily >>> just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the >>> group.**.Jeff >>> >>> >>> Hey Jeff, >>> A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this >>> "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to >>> sharewith those that respond. >>> Thanks for your service! >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >>> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a group.**...Jeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > List/enterprise. > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > >> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long >> time. >> Willing to donate. >> fp >> >> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >> >>> Collective, >>> >>> >>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the >>> end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>> >> __** "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755) >>> >
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I could PayPal a little something as well :) I don't contribute much but I do enjoy lurking around. Veech -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:05 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards I'm good for chipping in too. --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, "Robert Martin Jr." wrote: Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
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Chris, And your point is ? Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote: You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Jeff, Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have dropped enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold! Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests. Fine. I suspect many are still out there. Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about this... any more... Best, Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
That makes me still in diapers, Chris. I joined early in the last decade...:)..Jeff You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: > That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not > moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, > certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. > Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the > comes through the > group..Jeff > > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > > folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to > > break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being > > a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > > groupJeff > > > > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > > to contribute now. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > >> List/enterprise. > >> Duncan > >> > >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. > >>> Willing to donate. > >>> fp > >>> > >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > Collective, > > > Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know > who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at > the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. > >>> > > __ > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > > Franklin, 1755) > > > > > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, "Jeff Lane" wrote: > That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated > it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit > to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily > just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the > group..Jeff > > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to > sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > > folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break > > it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean > > vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > > groupJeff > > > > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > > to contribute now. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: > >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now > >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this > >> List/enterprise. > >> Duncan > >> > >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: > >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. > >>> Willing to donate. > >>> fp > >>> > >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: > Collective, > > > Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who > pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the > end of this year, any info would be appreciated. > >>> > > __ > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > > Franklin, 1755) > > > > > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of > folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break > it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean > vet I am all too familiar with silence in a > groupJeff > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy > to contribute now. > > Mike > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >> List/enterprise. >> Duncan >> >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. >>> Willing to donate. >>> fp >>> >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>> > __ > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin > Franklin, 1755) > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
At 08:01 PM 18/03/2013, DSinc wrote: Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Waitasec! I can block you?!? How come nobody mentioned that before? :) T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I'm good for chipping in too. --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, "Robert Martin Jr." wrote: > Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) > > > lopaka > > > > From: DSinc > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM > Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards > > Hey Jeff, > A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this > "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, > I continue to sharewith those that respond. > Thanks for your service! > Duncan > > On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: >> I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks >> that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As >> an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all >> too familiar with silence in a >> groupJeff >> >> >> I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to >> contribute now. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >>> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >>> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >>> List/enterprise. >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. >>>> Willing to donate. >>>> fp >>>> >>>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>>> Collective, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end >>>>> of this year, any info would be appreciated. >> __ >> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >> Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755) >> >>
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: > I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks > that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As > an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all > too familiar with silence in a > groupJeff > > > I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to > contribute now. > > Mike > > > > At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >> Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >> awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >> List/enterprise. >> Duncan >> >> On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>> In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. >>> Willing to donate. >>> fp >>> >>> At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>> Collective, >>>> >>>> >>>>Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end >>>> of this year, any info would be appreciated. >>> > __ > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary > Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755) > >
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this "HardwareGroup" list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: >Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now >awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this >List/enterprise. >Duncan > >On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: >>In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. >>Willing to donate. >>fp >> >>At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: >>>Collective, >>> >>> >>> Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who >>> pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end >>> of this year, any info would be appreciated. >> >> __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
If that does not work, email me. I have old phone and address for Jim that did work. Duncan On 03/18/2013 17:49, Bryan Seiz wrote: On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, maybe I'll give him a ring.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, maybe I'll give him a ring.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bryan Seiz wrote: > Collective, > > > Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays > for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this > year, any info would be appreciated. >
[H] List info / Jim Edwards
Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
