Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Edward Finnell
If you have PDS(File182 on CBT) EAV support is included in LISTV
 
Update  8.6.14.4:   
  

EAV support for PDSE data sets allocated in the  cylinder-managed   
  
space.  This mod thanks to John Hamlet from  SAS.   
  

Update  8.6.14.1:   
  

LISTV: Expand cylinder display fields (largest, total, and primary) to  7   
 
characters and identify 3390-A  volumes.  This change was made  to  
   
accommodate 1TB EAV  drives.
  



In a message dated 7/19/2017 6:30:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

I was  trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can  query on device report saying that it is EAV  volume



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TS7760 Questions (Was: 7760)

2017-07-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
In reply to original question #3, look for the "copy export" function in
IBM's TS7760 documentation. You can also continue using whatever tape file
generation approaches you wish, if you wish -- for example, the AWSTAPE
Utilities from CBT Tape. The TS7760 is a virtual tape library, so anything
(and more) you can logically do with physical tapes -- for example, copy
them to AWSTAPE files -- you can do.


Timothy Sipples
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Re: Suppluing software to run on unsupported OS was Re: LE strikes again

2017-07-19 Thread Charles Mills
ARCH(4) is 390 mode!

Charles


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Tim, you may have to go to ARCH(4) 

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Re: Suppluing software to run on unsupported OS was Re: LE strikes again

2017-07-19 Thread Steve Beaver
Tim, you may have to go to ARCH(4) 

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Subject: Suppluing software to run on unsupported OS was Re: LE strikes
again

[Default] On 17 Jul 2017 00:21:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
abend...@gmail.com (Robin Atwood) wrote:

>Thanks for the pointer. But I suppose I should build at ARCH(5) which 
>is the lowest common denominator to deal with any other customers who 
>refuse to upgrade!
If your product assumes user connection to the Internet, is safe to from a
company liability point of view to distribute and support it for running on
unsupported systems.

Clark Morris 
>
>Robin
>
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
>Sent: 16 July 2017 12:14
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: LE strikes again
>
>Robin Atwood wrote:
>>I had sent the customer a version of the product compiled with XL/C at
>>ARCH(7) but that was not low enough! It looks like ARCH(5) is necessary.
>
>Not quite. On a z890 (or z990) machine ARCH(6) or lower is necessary. 
>ARCH
>(5) or lower is necessary on z800 and z900 machines.
>
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Suppluing software to run on unsupported OS was Re: LE strikes again

2017-07-19 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 17 Jul 2017 00:21:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
abend...@gmail.com (Robin Atwood) wrote:

>Thanks for the pointer. But I suppose I should build at ARCH(5) which is the
>lowest common denominator to deal 
>with any other customers who refuse to upgrade!
If your product assumes user connection to the Internet, is safe to
from a company liability point of view to distribute and support it
for running on unsupported systems.

Clark Morris 
>
>Robin
>
>-Original Message-
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>Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
>Sent: 16 July 2017 12:14
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: LE strikes again
>
>Robin Atwood wrote:
>>I had sent the customer a version of the product compiled with XL/C at
>>ARCH(7) but that was not low enough! It looks like ARCH(5) is necessary.
>
>Not quite. On a z890 (or z990) machine ARCH(6) or lower is necessary. ARCH
>(5) or lower is necessary on z800 and z900 machines.
>
>
>
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Re: 7760

2017-07-19 Thread Brian Fraser
Different systems will use a different category codes in
SYS1.PARMLIB(DEVSUPxx), as long as the the unconnected systems have unique
volume serial numbers then its no problem.

Two or more unconnected systems can share one big partition, or it can be
divided into 2 or more partitions and controlled by storage class routines.

The size of each partitions can be changed on the fly.

I have 8 different SMSPLEXs (8 different CA-1 TMCs) all residing in one
partition.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248366.pdf

Brian

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Rob Schramm  wrote:

> Try TS7700 as well.
>
> Rob Schramm
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 6:24 AM Lizette Koehler 
> wrote:
>
> > A quick internet search using
> >
> > IBM TS7760
> >
> > Should turn up helpful links and documents
> >
> > This one may be helpful
> >
> > IBM TS7760: Features and benefits - IBM Storage
> >
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:15 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: 7760
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > We're being offered a TS7760, and I have some questions:
> > >
> > > 1.Can the machine be partitioned to serve two separate, unconnected
> > > systems? How flexible is the partition? Must it be fixed when the
> system
> > is
> > > configured, or can I change it later?
> > >
> > > 2.Are any additional operating system components needed? We are
> > currently
> > > running z/OS v2.1.
> > >
> > > 3.Are the files that represent the tapes accessible? Could I copy
> > them to
> > > an external drive and store them somewhere else?
> > >
> > > 4.Is there a 'TS7760 for dummies' book?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Gadi
> >
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Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program

2017-07-19 Thread Bill Godfrey
The same manual used to have an example subprogram named BPXTTOD that did a 
time conversion in the opposite direction. When it stopped working at the same 
date (January 10 2004 13:37:04, correcting a typo in my previous post) the 
example was just dropped entirely from the manual starting with the z/OS 1.7 
edition.

Bill

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:15:09 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

>I mentioned that issue with regard to a different example (that used storage 
>references, for example, where the current architecture would allow TMLH and 
>LLILF instead) to an IBMer whose name you would recognize in an instant. I 
>offered to supply a better example and submit it as an RCF if he would vet it. 
>He was adamant that he had zero interest in such an endeavor.
>
>I guess good enough is good enough. It's an algorithm, not a programming class.
>
>Charles
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Steve Smith
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:59 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program
>
>Bill's suggestion is a vast improvement.  But I can't understand why IBM 
>publishes examples that seem to be written (by a student) for System/360.
>Not to mention that actually dividing by 2 was naive even then.
>
>Convert the code to use this new thing, 64-bit registers, and you'll need half 
>the instructions and none of the silly games.
>

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Re: 7760

2017-07-19 Thread Rob Schramm
Try TS7700 as well.

Rob Schramm

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 6:24 AM Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> A quick internet search using
>
> IBM TS7760
>
> Should turn up helpful links and documents
>
> This one may be helpful
>
> IBM TS7760: Features and benefits - IBM Storage
>
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:15 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: 7760
> >
> > Hi,
> > We're being offered a TS7760, and I have some questions:
> >
> > 1.Can the machine be partitioned to serve two separate, unconnected
> > systems? How flexible is the partition? Must it be fixed when the system
> is
> > configured, or can I change it later?
> >
> > 2.Are any additional operating system components needed? We are
> currently
> > running z/OS v2.1.
> >
> > 3.Are the files that represent the tapes accessible? Could I copy
> them to
> > an external drive and store them somewhere else?
> >
> > 4.Is there a 'TS7760 for dummies' book?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gadi
>
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Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program

2017-07-19 Thread Charles Mills
I mentioned that issue with regard to a different example (that used storage 
references, for example, where the current architecture would allow TMLH and 
LLILF instead) to an IBMer whose name you would recognize in an instant. I 
offered to supply a better example and submit it as an RCF if he would vet it. 
He was adamant that he had zero interest in such an endeavor.

I guess good enough is good enough. It's an algorithm, not a programming class.

Charles


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Of Steve Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program

Bill's suggestion is a vast improvement.  But I can't understand why IBM 
publishes examples that seem to be written (by a student) for System/360.
Not to mention that actually dividing by 2 was naive even then.

Convert the code to use this new thing, 64-bit registers, and you'll need half 
the instructions and none of the silly games.

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Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program

2017-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:58:47 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:

>Bill's suggestion is a vast improvement.  But I can't understand why IBM
>publishes examples that seem to be written (by a student) for System/360.
>Not to mention that actually dividing by 2 was naive even then.
> 
That's what I was thinking.

>Convert the code to use this new thing, 64-bit registers, and you'll need
>half the instructions and none of the silly games.
>
But ETOD is now 128 bits.  Still, isn't a 128-bit dividend supported.  Remainder
is usually inconsequential.

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Re: Curious about IBM time conversion example program

2017-07-19 Thread Steve Smith
Bill's suggestion is a vast improvement.  But I can't understand why IBM
publishes examples that seem to be written (by a student) for System/360.
Not to mention that actually dividing by 2 was naive even then.

Convert the code to use this new thing, 64-bit registers, and you'll need
half the instructions and none of the silly games.

sas

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Bill Godfrey 
wrote:

> The number of seconds per TOD unit is too large to be represented in a
> signed fullword, but half the number of seconds is not too large.
> So they break the computation into 2 divides.
>
> When the STCK value is hex ba9a048bca00 (January 10 2004 13:37:05) or
> larger, the value after subtracting EPOCJ70 is hex 3D09, and a
> fixed-point divide exception occurs on the divide instruction. This is when
> the Unix time rolled over to hex 4000.
>
> Since dividing by hex 7a12 (decimal 204800) and then by 2 is the
> same as dividing by 4096 and then by 1 million, one way to avoid the divide
> exception is to replace the 4 instructions with these two:
>
> SRDL  R14,12   DIVIDE BY 4096
> D R14,=F'100'
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:28:38 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
> >Oh I get it now - Unix epoch second times are 32 bit *signed* integers.
> >So, they are doing SLR 14,14 prior to dividing by two to truncate at a
> >(signed) 31-bit integer.
> >
> >0x7FFF is Jan 19, 2038 (UTC), the latest time that can be represented
> >as a 32-bit signed integer seconds.

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Re: What to do with PTF dogies?

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Little
I put them all on unless they are PE. I don't agree with the picking and 
choosing that RSU does and if I get hit in production by some old PTF that was 
not in an RSU for whatever reason my management is going to be very unhappy. 
Been there before and don't want to repeat.

The other issue is that our other infrastructure teams all have their Own 
schedules and so we will never all be at a chosen RSU level.

Dan

On Jul 19, 2017, 17:19 -0400, Jesse 1 Robinson , wrote:
> It's SOP here to install PTFs by RSU id. SMPE LIST NOAPPLY shows a fair 
> number of PTFs that have languished for quite some because they have never 
> been assigned to RSU. They usually have a PUT id, but we don't ever specify 
> PUTyymm. What do other shops do with these dogies? Scoop them up after some 
> time and APPLY them individually, or just let them ferment indefinitely?
>
> .
> .
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What to do with PTF dogies?

2017-07-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's SOP here to install PTFs by RSU id. SMPE LIST NOAPPLY shows a fair number 
of PTFs that have languished for quite some because they have never been 
assigned to RSU. They usually have a PUT id, but we don't ever specify PUTyymm. 
What do other shops do with these dogies? Scoop them up after some time and 
APPLY them individually, or just let them ferment indefinitely?

.
.
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Re: CA7 with service now

2017-07-19 Thread Roach, Dennis
Did you ever get a workable solution? 
I have to do the same thing.

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Re: Sort Question

2017-07-19 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> RFC 822 allows any displayable USASCII character if it's surrounded by 
quotation  marks.  But phsiii points out that so many sites disallow it 
that 
 it's hardly a concern.

Paul,

Well even though it is NOT a concern, I fixed the job not to depend on the 
delimiters. Just move the name to the end and have the domain up front. By 
doing so we don't have to worry having delimiters or parsing into domain 
data.  So here are the updated control cards

//SYSINDD * 
  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT, 
 PARSE=(%01=(ENDBEFR=C'@',FIXLEN=50),   $ Get Field Before @ 
%02=(ENDBEFR=C'>',  $ Get Field Before < 
 ENDBEFR=C',',  $ Get Field Before , 
 ENDBEFR=C' ',FIXLEN=50)),  $ Get Field Before ' ' 
   OVERLAY=(081:%02,TRAN=LTOU,  $ Put Domain AT 081 
131:%01,TRAN=LTOU)),$ Put Name  AT 131 
 
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT, 
  PARSE=(%03=(ABSPOS=131,STARTAFT=C'<', $ Reparse The Name 
 FIXLEN=50)), 
   OVERLAY=(181:%03)),  $ Put Name AT 181 
 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT, 
   FINDREP=(STARTPOS=181,INOUT=(C'"',C''))),$ REPLACE THE " 
 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(181,50,CH,GT,C' '), 
  BUILD=(001,80,$ Original Rec 
 181,50,$ Name 
 081,50)),  $ Domain 
 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=NONE, 
  BUILD=(001,80,$ Original Rec 
 131,50,$ NAME 
 081,50))   $ DOMAIN 
 
  SORT FIELDS=(081,50,CH,A, $ Name 
   131,50,CH,A),EQUALS  $ Domain 
/* 

Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
07/19/2017 09:40:11 AM:

> From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 07/19/2017 09:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Sort Question
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 08:57:49 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
> 
> >>> #$%& is indeed delimiter, any character set, anything which cannot 
be 
> >found in real email address.
> > 
> RFC 822 allows any displayable USASCII character if it's surrounded 
> by quotation
> marks.  But phsiii points out that so many sites disallow it that 
> it's hardly a concern.
> 
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Re: Sort Question

2017-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 08:57:49 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

>>> #$%& is indeed delimiter, any character set, anything which cannot be 
>found in real email address.
> 
RFC 822 allows any displayable USASCII character if it's surrounded by quotation
marks.  But phsiii points out that so many sites disallow it that it's hardly a 
concern.

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Re: Sort Question

2017-07-19 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> #$%& is indeed delimiter, any character set, anything which cannot be 
found in real email address.

R.S,

Yes that is indeed my delimiter that I added in the earlier on the 1st 
IFTHEN statement, where I was converting to upper case.  I added that 
delimiter as stopper to stop PARSE from getting into the domain data when 
we are re-parsing the name once again. May be I should have added more 
detail comments but then it would overshadow the actual control cards. So 
I kept the comments to be short. 

>>> Sri, you're great guy, I appreciate your contribution very much!

Thank You


Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
07/19/2017 06:37:33 AM:

> From: "R.S." 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 07/19/2017 06:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Sort Question
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> W dniu 2017-07-19 o 15:11, R.S. pisze:
> > W dniu 2017-07-17 o 17:33, Sri h Kolusu pisze:
>  I see the following room for improvement: 1. Do NOT limit domain 
field
> >> to first dot. Just take it as whole string.
> >> Example of sorted domains
> >>
> >> R.S
> >>
> >> My earlier job was just an untested sample that I wrote on the 
> >> weekend to
> >> meet Edward's requirement.  Here is a fully tested version and it 
takes
> >> into consideration all the points raised here so far.  Thanks paul 
for
> >> sending in some sample data. It also handles the lower case and upper
> >> case. We only convert the parsed values to upper case and leave the
> >> original record as is.
> >>
> >> I did not code the OUTREC statement to remove the parsed fields as I
> >> wanted to show how the values are parsed. If the job met all your
> >> requirements then simply add OUTREC BUILD=(1,80)
> >>
> >> //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
> >> //SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
> >> //SORTIN   DD *
> >> John Sr Doe ,
> >> SORT EXPERT ,
> >> john...@us.ibm.com,
> >> ,
> >> <"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
> >> (MUST BE EQUIVALENT) <"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
> >> (OPTIONALLY DISTINCT) <"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
> >> (MAY BE REJECTED BY IBM) <"JOHNDOE+FOLDER"@US.IBM.COM>
> >> x...@bbb.com
> >> aa...@aaa.com
> >> b...@aa.com
> >> n...@example.com
> >> a.b@email.com
> >> exampleem...@domain.in
> >> walt.farr...@yahoo.co.uk
> >> a...@domain.com
> >> a...@domain.com.pl
> >> a...@domain.pl
> >> a...@domain.de
> >> a...@domain.in
> >> a...@domain.pl
> >> //SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=*
> >>INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
> >>   PARSE=(%01=(ENDBEFR=C'@',FIXLEN=50),   $ GET FIELD BEFORE @
> >>  %02=(ENDBEFR=C'>',  $ GET FIELD BEFORE <
> >>   ENDBEFR=C',',  $ GET FIELD BEFORE ,
> >>   ENDBEFR=C' ',FIXLEN=50)),  $ GET FIELD BEFORE ' 
'
> >> OVERLAY=(081:%01,TRAN=LTOU,  $ PUT NAME AT 81
> >>  C'#$%&',$ ADD SPL CHAR #$%&
> >>  135:%02,TRAN=LTOU)),$ PUT DOMAIN AT 135
> >> IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
> >>PARSE=(%03=(ABSPOS=81,STARTAFT=C'<',  $ REPARSE THE NAME
> >>   ENDBEFR=C'#$%&',   $ SPL CHAR AS 
STOPPER
> >>   FIXLEN=50)),
> >> OVERLAY=(185:%03)),  $ PUT NAME AT 185
> >>  IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
> >> FINDREP=(STARTPOS=181,INOUT=(C'"',C''))),$ REPLACE THE "
> >>IFTHEN=(WHEN=(185,50,CH,GT,C' '),
> >>BUILD=(001,80,$ ORIGINAL REC
> >>   185,50,$ NAME
> >>   135,50)),  $ DOMAIN
> >>  IFTHEN=(WHEN=NONE,
> >>BUILD=(001,80,$ ORIGINAL REC
> >>   081,50,$ NAME
> >>   135,50))   $ DOMAIN
> >>  SORT FIELDS=(081,50,CH,A, $ NAME
> >> 131,50,CH,A),EQUALS  $ DOMAIN
> >> /*
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kolusu
> >> DFSORT Development
> >> IBM Corporation
> >
> > OK, I give up.
> > The job is obvoiusly working OK, however I can't fully understand its 
> > logic.
> >
> > My understanding:
> > ** first IFTHEN + OVERLAY put string before @ (with all the garbage 
> > like "John Sr Doe <") and string before end of domain (which can be 
> > space or ">" or comma). First string is placed in col 81, the second 
> > in col 135.
> > What is "#$%&" ? is kind of delimiter?
> >
> > ** the second IFTHEN parses "name" field again to remove "<". What 
> > about records without "<>" ?
> >
> > ** third IFTHEN simply removes " character, but why it starts from 
> > 181, while name was put on 185?
> >
> > ** fourth IFTHEN chooses records with non-empty field 185,50 and 
> > builds record using original record (1,80), name (185,50) and domain 
> > (135,50).
> >
> > ** fifth IFTHEN takes rest of records (means empty 185,50) and 

Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Barry Merrill
Both DCOLLECT and SMF have flags for EAV volumes,
and programs like MXG Software know about them.

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Subject: Re: Identify EAV volume

I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that can 
query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler"  wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with 
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize 
> as how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM 
> has suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can 
> be up to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand 
> the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Identify EAV volume
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series 
> > belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
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Re: SMFLIMxx sample?

2017-07-19 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2017-07-18 o 10:21, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze:

[...]
Region=0M implies Memlimit=0M. Does the SMFLIMxx Memlimit parameter overrule 
Memlimit=0M for Region=0M tasks?
If so, a filter on REGION= would be helpful or I need IEFUSI to ignore SMFLIMxx 
for Region=0M steps.


Small remark: REGION=0M implies unlimited MEMLIMIT, but MEMLIMIT=0 means 
ZERO memory above 31 bit.

This is misleading.

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Re: TS7760

2017-07-19 Thread Shlomo Lotem
The correct product is TS7760 version r4.1

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Re: Sort Question

2017-07-19 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2017-07-17 o 17:33, Sri h Kolusu pisze:

I see the following room for improvement: 1. Do NOT limit domain field

to first dot. Just take it as whole string.
Example of sorted domains

R.S

My earlier job was just an untested sample that I wrote on the weekend to
meet Edward's requirement.  Here is a fully tested version and it takes
into consideration all the points raised here so far.  Thanks paul for
sending in some sample data. It also handles the lower case and upper
case. We only convert the parsed values to upper case and leave the
original record as is.

I did not code the OUTREC statement to remove the parsed fields as I
wanted to show how the values are parsed. If the job met all your
requirements then simply add OUTREC BUILD=(1,80)

//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN   DD *
John Sr Doe ,
SORT EXPERT ,
john...@us.ibm.com,
,
<"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
(MUST BE EQUIVALENT) <"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
(OPTIONALLY DISTINCT) <"JOHNDOE"@US.IBM.COM>,
(MAY BE REJECTED BY IBM) <"JOHNDOE+FOLDER"@US.IBM.COM>
x...@bbb.com
aa...@aaa.com
b...@aa.com
n...@example.com
a.b@email.com
exampleem...@domain.in
walt.farr...@yahoo.co.uk
a...@domain.com
a...@domain.com.pl
a...@domain.pl
a...@domain.de
a...@domain.in
a...@domain.pl
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=*
   INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
  PARSE=(%01=(ENDBEFR=C'@',FIXLEN=50),   $ GET FIELD BEFORE @
 %02=(ENDBEFR=C'>',  $ GET FIELD BEFORE <
  ENDBEFR=C',',  $ GET FIELD BEFORE ,
  ENDBEFR=C' ',FIXLEN=50)),  $ GET FIELD BEFORE ' '
OVERLAY=(081:%01,TRAN=LTOU,  $ PUT NAME AT 81
 C'#$%&',$ ADD SPL CHAR #$%&
 135:%02,TRAN=LTOU)),$ PUT DOMAIN AT 135
IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
   PARSE=(%03=(ABSPOS=81,STARTAFT=C'<',  $ REPARSE THE NAME
  ENDBEFR=C'#$%&',   $ SPL CHAR AS STOPPER
  FIXLEN=50)),
OVERLAY=(185:%03)),  $ PUT NAME AT 185
  
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,

FINDREP=(STARTPOS=181,INOUT=(C'"',C''))),$ REPLACE THE "
  
  
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=(185,50,CH,GT,C' '),

   BUILD=(001,80,$ ORIGINAL REC
  185,50,$ NAME
  135,50)),  $ DOMAIN
  
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=NONE,

   BUILD=(001,80,$ ORIGINAL REC
  081,50,$ NAME
  135,50))   $ DOMAIN
  
   SORT FIELDS=(081,50,CH,A, $ NAME

131,50,CH,A),EQUALS  $ DOMAIN
/*
  


Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation


OK, I give up.
The job is obvoiusly working OK, however I can't fully understand its 
logic.


My understanding:
** first IFTHEN + OVERLAY put string before @ (with all the garbage like 
"John Sr Doe <") and string before end of domain (which can be space or 
">" or comma). First string is placed in col 81, the second in col 135.

What is "#$%&" ? is kind of delimiter?

** the second IFTHEN parses "name" field again to remove "<". What about 
records without "<>" ?


** third IFTHEN simply removes " character, but why it starts from 181, 
while name was put on 185?


** fourth IFTHEN chooses records with non-empty field 185,50 and builds 
record using original record (1,80), name (185,50) and domain (135,50).


** fifth IFTHEN takes rest of records (means empty 185,50) and builds 
record using original record (1,80) "raw" name (81,50) and domain (131,50).


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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread John Eells

Jake Anderson wrote:

I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can query on device report saying that it is EAV volume



This field in the F4DSCB in the VTOC will tell you:

DS4DSCYL

Number of logical cylinders including alternates, if
any exist. Unsigned number. Set to X'FFFE' for
devices with more than 65,520 cylinders, indicating
that cylinder-managed space exists (DS4CYLMG is
set on) and extended attribute DSCBs, formats 8
and 9, are allowed.

LSPACE will retrieve the volume size in LSPDVOLI, or return the entire 
F4DSCB if you use the F4DSCB option, including DS4DSCYL.


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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread R.S.

How to identify EAV?
Just look - EAV is bigger.

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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Rob Scott
Jake

Issue UCBSCAN and get the device class extension (DCE) and then check for both 
the following :

UCBTBYT3/4 = x'200F' and DCEOBRDT = x'3E'

Rob

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I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that can 
query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler"  wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize
> as how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM
> has suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can
> be up to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand
> the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
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> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series
> > belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Jake Anderson
I was trying to understand if there is any kind of assembler program that
can query on device report saying that it is EAV volume

On 19-Jul-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler"  wrote:

> What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with
> specific setting for size of volume.
>
> So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.
> Though you could make  it different, this is what most will recognize as
> how many cylinders are on a Mod3.
>
> With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM has
> suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.
>
> Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)
>
> You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can be up
> to 255TB in size for one volume
>
> If you do an internet search on
>
> IBM 3390-A EAV
>
> You might find this Share presentation that might help
>
> SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration
>
> Or this
>
> IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide
>
> Or this entry
>
> Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM
>
>
> They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand the EAV
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Identify EAV volume
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs
> to EAV
> > ?
> >
> > Any commands or macro which can help ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jake
> >
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Re: 7760

2017-07-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
A quick internet search using

IBM TS7760 

Should turn up helpful links and documents

This one may be helpful

IBM TS7760: Features and benefits - IBM Storage


Lizette


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> 
> Hi,
> We're being offered a TS7760, and I have some questions:
> 
> 1.Can the machine be partitioned to serve two separate, unconnected
> systems? How flexible is the partition? Must it be fixed when the system is
> configured, or can I change it later?
> 
> 2.Are any additional operating system components needed? We are currently
> running z/OS v2.1.
> 
> 3.Are the files that represent the tapes accessible? Could I copy them to
> an external drive and store them somewhere else?
> 
> 4.Is there a 'TS7760 for dummies' book?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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7760

2017-07-19 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,
We’re being offered a TS7760, and I have some questions:

1.Can the machine be partitioned to serve two separate, unconnected 
systems? How flexible is the partition? Must it be fixed when the system is 
configured, or can I change it later?

2.Are any additional operating system components needed? We are currently 
running z/OS v2.1.

3.Are the files that represent the tapes accessible? Could I copy them to 
an external drive and store them somewhere else?

4.Is there a ‘TS7760 for dummies’ book?

Thanks

Gadi

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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
What problem are you trying to solve?

most shops use a stand set of definitions for dasd which comes with specific 
setting for size of volume.

So if you see it is a 3390 Mod3 you know it will be 3339 cylinders.  Though you 
could make  it different, this is what most will recognize as how many 
cylinders are on a Mod3.

With EAV the type of volume definition is slightly different and IBM has 
suggested 3390 ModA (3390-A) for EAV.

Then you would specify how large it is (typically larger than a Mod54)

You also need to see that the Mod-A uses a different sizing - it can be up to 
255TB in size for one volume

If you do an internet search on 

IBM 3390-A EAV 

You might find this Share presentation that might help

SHARE 9941 Planning for EAV Migration

Or this

IBM Redbooks | DFSMS V1.10 and EAV Technical Guide

Or this entry

Extended address volumes for CKD - IBM


They (and other presentations and links) should help you understand the EAV

Lizette


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> Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:57 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Identify EAV volume
> 
> Hi
> 
> Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to EAV
> ?
> 
> Any commands or macro which can help ?
> 
> Regards
> Jake
> 

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New Z on Bloomberg Tech.

2017-07-19 Thread Edward Finnell
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-17/why-ibm-s-latest-mainframes
-are-a-big-deal-video
 
Seems to be browser sensitive. Works on CHROME

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Re: Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Edward Finnell
DEVSERV QDASD,?
 
or
 
DS QD,?
 
Should get you started.
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2017 3:57:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:

Is there  any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to
EAV  ?

Any commands or macro which can help  ?



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Identify EAV volume

2017-07-19 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi

Is there any command to identify if a particular volume series belongs to
EAV ?

Any commands or macro which can help ?

Regards
Jake

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Re: Running unsupported is dangerous was Re: AW: Re: LE strikes again

2017-07-19 Thread Brian Westerman
I have to disagree, over the last 3 years only 5 sites were government related, 
and 2 were universities.

Brian

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