Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[M. Elings]

Just wanted to chime in here on the question of captioning. We use YT
auto-captioning and then have humans correct it. YT auto-captioning alone
is not acceptable at UC Berkeley, so we take the extra step. So far we have
found no other more cost-effective method to get good captioning without
breaking the bank. If anyone has a better method, please share.

--
Mary W. Elings
Assistant Director and Head of Technical Services
The Bancroft Library
University of California



On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 2:21 PM Susan Edwards  wrote:

> Hi Sina - You are correct! And I did not mean to imply that the transcripts
> provided by YT are perfect. They are not at all.
> However, UCLA's office of ADA compliance has told us that they are ok with
> us providing captions in this way. There is definitely much work to be done
> on this front - I'd will reach out to you separately about better ways!
>
> Susan
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 2:07 PM Sina Bahram  wrote:
>
> > Because Susan mentioned captions below, I just wanted to make one thing
> > really clear. I don't mean to disagree, Susan, and it's not the main
> topic
> > of this thread, so apologies to the OP ahead of time, but it's critical
> to
> > understand that automatically generated captions are not sufficient for
> > accessibility/inclusive design reasons. I don't think you were implying
> > that they were since many places take the auto-generated captions, then
> > edit them to be compliant/useful, but this question comes up a ton in our
> > work. Happy to discuss under a separate thread/cover, but trying to not
> > high-jack the thread here.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> >
> > President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
> > Phone: 919-345-3832
> > https://www.PAC.bz
> > Twitter: @SinaBahram
> > Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mcn-l  On Behalf Of Susan Edwards
> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 2:14 PM
> > To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question
> >
> > Hi Ellice -
> > We have lots of videos on YouTube and are currently adding on the order
> of
> > 100 each year. We think of YT as another social media outlet, and it's an
> > important distribution channel for us.
> > Agree with Matt about the lack of control over the content that's
> delivered
> > at the end of the videos, but that has a lot to do with the user and
> their
> > own watching habits. Just like any other social media platform, this
> needs
> > to be managed, and you need to keep up with the changes - it requires
> care
> > and feeding. I think it's important that you have a social media person
> or
> > marketing/communications team that can manage this platform - that's got
> to
> > be part of the investment.
> >
> >  YT isn't the only place our videos are hosted - this is not our archive.
> > We also post a lot to Vimeo (mostly produced promotional videos), and all
> > of our public programs documentation videos originate on the Livestream
> > platform. Everything is archived on-site as well. We are about to embark
> on
> > a Mellon-funded project to create an online archive for our public
> programs
> > documentation videos, and we may move choose a different host for this,
> but
> > I don't think we will stop also posting to YT.
> >
> > Another important thing for us is the auto-captioning YT provides. As
> part
> > of UCLA, we are a government entity and have to comply with ADA
> > requirements for accessibility. Without the captioning provided by YT for
> > free, we would have to take on this expense and
> >
> > And yes, we have had videos blocked and taken down for copyright, AND our
> > account was blocked from live broadcasting on YT for 3 months. It's all
> > robots-managed and there is virtually nothing you can do about it - it's
> > super frustrating. I have tried to appeal many ways, many times, to no
> > avail!
> >
> > Hope this helps - happy to discuss more!
> > Susan
> >
> > Susan Edwards
> > Associate Director, Digital Content
> > Hammer Museum
> > 10899 Wilshire Bl
> > Los Angeles, CA 90024
> > sedwa...@hammer.ucla.edu
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matt Popke 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ellice,
> > >
> > > We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're
> > still
> > > using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it
> > for
> > > some purposes, as well.
> > >
> > > Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on
> > > youtube is that it has a very large audience and automated takedown
> > systems
> > > regularly scan the content there. It's just more likely that some
> > automated
> > > system will flag a video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It
> > > really depends on what you're putting up there.
> > >
> > > The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has
> > more
> > > to do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount
> > of
> > > control we 

Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Susan Edwards]

Hi Sina - You are correct! And I did not mean to imply that the transcripts
provided by YT are perfect. They are not at all.
However, UCLA's office of ADA compliance has told us that they are ok with
us providing captions in this way. There is definitely much work to be done
on this front - I'd will reach out to you separately about better ways!

Susan

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 2:07 PM Sina Bahram  wrote:

> Because Susan mentioned captions below, I just wanted to make one thing
> really clear. I don't mean to disagree, Susan, and it's not the main topic
> of this thread, so apologies to the OP ahead of time, but it's critical to
> understand that automatically generated captions are not sufficient for
> accessibility/inclusive design reasons. I don't think you were implying
> that they were since many places take the auto-generated captions, then
> edit them to be compliant/useful, but this question comes up a ton in our
> work. Happy to discuss under a separate thread/cover, but trying to not
> high-jack the thread here.
>
> Thanks
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
> Phone: 919-345-3832
> https://www.PAC.bz
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
> Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mcn-l  On Behalf Of Susan Edwards
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 2:14 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question
>
> Hi Ellice -
> We have lots of videos on YouTube and are currently adding on the order of
> 100 each year. We think of YT as another social media outlet, and it's an
> important distribution channel for us.
> Agree with Matt about the lack of control over the content that's delivered
> at the end of the videos, but that has a lot to do with the user and their
> own watching habits. Just like any other social media platform, this needs
> to be managed, and you need to keep up with the changes - it requires care
> and feeding. I think it's important that you have a social media person or
> marketing/communications team that can manage this platform - that's got to
> be part of the investment.
>
>  YT isn't the only place our videos are hosted - this is not our archive.
> We also post a lot to Vimeo (mostly produced promotional videos), and all
> of our public programs documentation videos originate on the Livestream
> platform. Everything is archived on-site as well. We are about to embark on
> a Mellon-funded project to create an online archive for our public programs
> documentation videos, and we may move choose a different host for this, but
> I don't think we will stop also posting to YT.
>
> Another important thing for us is the auto-captioning YT provides. As part
> of UCLA, we are a government entity and have to comply with ADA
> requirements for accessibility. Without the captioning provided by YT for
> free, we would have to take on this expense and
>
> And yes, we have had videos blocked and taken down for copyright, AND our
> account was blocked from live broadcasting on YT for 3 months. It's all
> robots-managed and there is virtually nothing you can do about it - it's
> super frustrating. I have tried to appeal many ways, many times, to no
> avail!
>
> Hope this helps - happy to discuss more!
> Susan
>
> Susan Edwards
> Associate Director, Digital Content
> Hammer Museum
> 10899 Wilshire Bl
> Los Angeles, CA 90024
> sedwa...@hammer.ucla.edu
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matt Popke 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ellice,
> >
> > We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're
> still
> > using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it
> for
> > some purposes, as well.
> >
> > Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on
> > youtube is that it has a very large audience and automated takedown
> systems
> > regularly scan the content there. It's just more likely that some
> automated
> > system will flag a video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It
> > really depends on what you're putting up there.
> >
> > The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has
> more
> > to do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount
> of
> > control we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no
> way
> > to reliably turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a
> youtube
> > video after it has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we
> > could decide to enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately
> the
> > grid just appears whether we like it or not.
> >
> > We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a
> > significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or
> > another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to
> the
> > unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending
> whatever
> > YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing.
> >
> > 

Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Sina Bahram]

Because Susan mentioned captions below, I just wanted to make one thing really 
clear. I don't mean to disagree, Susan, and it's not the main topic of this 
thread, so apologies to the OP ahead of time, but it's critical to understand 
that automatically generated captions are not sufficient for 
accessibility/inclusive design reasons. I don't think you were implying that 
they were since many places take the auto-generated captions, then edit them to 
be compliant/useful, but this question comes up a ton in our work. Happy to 
discuss under a separate thread/cover, but trying to not high-jack the thread 
here.

Thanks

Take care,
Sina

President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 919-345-3832
https://www.PAC.bz
Twitter: @SinaBahram
Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com

-Original Message-
From: mcn-l  On Behalf Of Susan Edwards
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 2:14 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv 
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

Hi Ellice -
We have lots of videos on YouTube and are currently adding on the order of
100 each year. We think of YT as another social media outlet, and it's an
important distribution channel for us.
Agree with Matt about the lack of control over the content that's delivered
at the end of the videos, but that has a lot to do with the user and their
own watching habits. Just like any other social media platform, this needs
to be managed, and you need to keep up with the changes - it requires care
and feeding. I think it's important that you have a social media person or
marketing/communications team that can manage this platform - that's got to
be part of the investment.

 YT isn't the only place our videos are hosted - this is not our archive.
We also post a lot to Vimeo (mostly produced promotional videos), and all
of our public programs documentation videos originate on the Livestream
platform. Everything is archived on-site as well. We are about to embark on
a Mellon-funded project to create an online archive for our public programs
documentation videos, and we may move choose a different host for this, but
I don't think we will stop also posting to YT.

Another important thing for us is the auto-captioning YT provides. As part
of UCLA, we are a government entity and have to comply with ADA
requirements for accessibility. Without the captioning provided by YT for
free, we would have to take on this expense and

And yes, we have had videos blocked and taken down for copyright, AND our
account was blocked from live broadcasting on YT for 3 months. It's all
robots-managed and there is virtually nothing you can do about it - it's
super frustrating. I have tried to appeal many ways, many times, to no
avail!

Hope this helps - happy to discuss more!
Susan

Susan Edwards
Associate Director, Digital Content
Hammer Museum
10899 Wilshire Bl
Los Angeles, CA 90024
sedwa...@hammer.ucla.edu


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matt Popke 
wrote:

> Hi Ellice,
>
> We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're still
> using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it for
> some purposes, as well.
>
> Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on
> youtube is that it has a very large audience and automated takedown systems
> regularly scan the content there. It's just more likely that some automated
> system will flag a video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It
> really depends on what you're putting up there.
>
> The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has more
> to do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount of
> control we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no way
> to reliably turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a youtube
> video after it has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we
> could decide to enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately the
> grid just appears whether we like it or not.
>
> We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a
> significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or
> another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to the
> unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending whatever
> YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing.
>
> It's different for video that is viewed on YouTube's site. Users know who
> is running the show there. But increasingly, when embedding video content
> on web pages we are using Vimeo because we have more control over the
> embeds.
>
> Also, as YouTube continues to pursue monetization strategies that
> privilege ads and advertisers, we anticipate service changes that would be
> at odds with our goals as an institution. It's easier to start moving to a
> different service now when we have time to adjust then to find ourselves
> moving to that service in a panicked rush after changes occur. The benefit
> 

Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Susan Edwards]

Hi Ellice -
We have lots of videos on YouTube and are currently adding on the order of
100 each year. We think of YT as another social media outlet, and it's an
important distribution channel for us.
Agree with Matt about the lack of control over the content that's delivered
at the end of the videos, but that has a lot to do with the user and their
own watching habits. Just like any other social media platform, this needs
to be managed, and you need to keep up with the changes - it requires care
and feeding. I think it's important that you have a social media person or
marketing/communications team that can manage this platform - that's got to
be part of the investment.

 YT isn't the only place our videos are hosted - this is not our archive.
We also post a lot to Vimeo (mostly produced promotional videos), and all
of our public programs documentation videos originate on the Livestream
platform. Everything is archived on-site as well. We are about to embark on
a Mellon-funded project to create an online archive for our public programs
documentation videos, and we may move choose a different host for this, but
I don't think we will stop also posting to YT.

Another important thing for us is the auto-captioning YT provides. As part
of UCLA, we are a government entity and have to comply with ADA
requirements for accessibility. Without the captioning provided by YT for
free, we would have to take on this expense and

And yes, we have had videos blocked and taken down for copyright, AND our
account was blocked from live broadcasting on YT for 3 months. It's all
robots-managed and there is virtually nothing you can do about it - it's
super frustrating. I have tried to appeal many ways, many times, to no
avail!

Hope this helps - happy to discuss more!
Susan

Susan Edwards
Associate Director, Digital Content
Hammer Museum
10899 Wilshire Bl
Los Angeles, CA 90024
sedwa...@hammer.ucla.edu


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matt Popke 
wrote:

> Hi Ellice,
>
> We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're still
> using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it for
> some purposes, as well.
>
> Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on
> youtube is that it has a very large audience and automated takedown systems
> regularly scan the content there. It's just more likely that some automated
> system will flag a video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It
> really depends on what you're putting up there.
>
> The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has more
> to do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount of
> control we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no way
> to reliably turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a youtube
> video after it has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we
> could decide to enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately the
> grid just appears whether we like it or not.
>
> We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a
> significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or
> another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to the
> unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending whatever
> YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing.
>
> It's different for video that is viewed on YouTube's site. Users know who
> is running the show there. But increasingly, when embedding video content
> on web pages we are using Vimeo because we have more control over the
> embeds.
>
> Also, as YouTube continues to pursue monetization strategies that
> privilege ads and advertisers, we anticipate service changes that would be
> at odds with our goals as an institution. It's easier to start moving to a
> different service now when we have time to adjust then to find ourselves
> moving to that service in a panicked rush after changes occur. The benefit
> of paying for a video hosting service is you know what you are getting and
> can be more assured that, aside from possible price increases, the service
> isn't going to pull the rug out from under you without warning.
>
> Matt Popke
> Developer
> 720.913.0126
> mpo...@denverartmuseum.org
>
>
> On 10/14/19, 07:32, "mcn-l on behalf of Ellice Engdahl" <
> mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu on behalf of elli...@thehenryford.org> wrote:
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hello, all,
>
> While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently
> host most our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video
> clips) on a private streaming platform.  We don't use much of the
> functionality provided by the private platform, so the question has come up
> whether YouTube would meet our needs as a player.
>
>   

Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Matt Popke]

Hi Ellice,

We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're still 
using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it for some 
purposes, as well.

Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on youtube is 
that it has a very large audience and automated takedown systems regularly scan 
the content there. It's just more likely that some automated system will flag a 
video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It really depends on what 
you're putting up there.

The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has more to 
do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount of control 
we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no way to reliably 
turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a youtube video after it 
has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we could decide to 
enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately the grid just appears 
whether we like it or not.

We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a 
significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or 
another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to the 
unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending whatever 
YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing. 

It's different for video that is viewed on YouTube's site. Users know who is 
running the show there. But increasingly, when embedding video content on web 
pages we are using Vimeo because we have more control over the embeds.

Also, as YouTube continues to pursue monetization strategies that privilege ads 
and advertisers, we anticipate service changes that would be at odds with our 
goals as an institution. It's easier to start moving to a different service now 
when we have time to adjust then to find ourselves moving to that service in a 
panicked rush after changes occur. The benefit of paying for a video hosting 
service is you know what you are getting and can be more assured that, aside 
from possible price increases, the service isn't going to pull the rug out from 
under you without warning.

Matt Popke
Developer
720.913.0126
mpo...@denverartmuseum.org
 

On 10/14/19, 07:32, "mcn-l on behalf of Ellice Engdahl"  wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not 
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content is safe.


Hello, all,

While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently host 
most our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video clips) 
on a private streaming platform.  We don't use much of the functionality 
provided by the private platform, so the question has come up whether YouTube 
would meet our needs as a player.

Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head:


  1.  Are there potentially different copyright implications to private 
hosting than to YouTube?  What if we made the YouTube videos unlisted so we 
were simply using it as a player?
  2.  Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video 
challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards?

Can anyone weigh in on these?  And are there other issues to contemplate 
that I am missing?  If the people at your institution who would make such 
decisions are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass this along to 
them-I will take any and all input, on- or off-list.

If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or 
instead of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you think 
it brings.

Thanks!

.
Gain Perspective. Get Inspired. Make History.

Ellice Engdahl, PMP
Manager, Digital Collections & Content
P: 313.982.6005
E: elli...@thehenryford.org


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Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Maarten Brinkerink]

Dear Ellice and all,

Thanks for raising this important discussion, which to me addresses the next 
wave of online awareness for museums (ethical concerns, related to leveraging 
dominant social media platforms).

In the Netherlands there have been numerous accounts related to your second 
point. Established national and regional archives have seen historical footage 
- especially historical documentation of the Second World War - removed from 
YouTube, or even entire channels blocked, without a clear response from YouTube 
to disputes to these actions.

Best,

Maarten 

> Op 14 okt. 2019, om 15:27 heeft Ellice Engdahl  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hello, all,
> 
> While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently host most 
> our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video clips) on a 
> private streaming platform.  We don't use much of the functionality provided 
> by the private platform, so the question has come up whether YouTube would 
> meet our needs as a player.
> 
> Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head:
> 
> 
>  1.  Are there potentially different copyright implications to private 
> hosting than to YouTube?  What if we made the YouTube videos unlisted so we 
> were simply using it as a player?
>  2.  Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video 
> challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards?
> 
> Can anyone weigh in on these?  And are there other issues to contemplate that 
> I am missing?  If the people at your institution who would make such 
> decisions are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass this along 
> to them-I will take any and all input, on- or off-list.
> 
> If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or instead 
> of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you think it 
> brings.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> .
> Gain Perspective. Get Inspired. Make History.
> 
> Ellice Engdahl, PMP
> Manager, Digital Collections & Content
> P: 313.982.6005
> E: elli...@thehenryford.org
> 
> www.thehenryford.org
> .
> 
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Re: [MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Captain Laika]

I've certainly used unlisted videos before (i.e. only accessible via 
direct link) - no technological barriers there.




On 14/10/2019 14:27, Ellice Engdahl wrote:

Hello, all,

While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently host most 
our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video clips) on a private 
streaming platform.  We don't use much of the functionality provided by the private 
platform, so the question has come up whether YouTube would meet our needs as a player.

Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head:


   1.  Are there potentially different copyright implications to private 
hosting than to YouTube?  What if we made the YouTube videos unlisted so we 
were simply using it as a player?
   2.  Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video 
challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards?

Can anyone weigh in on these?  And are there other issues to contemplate that I 
am missing?  If the people at your institution who would make such decisions 
are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass this along to them-I 
will take any and all input, on- or off-list.

If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or instead 
of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you think it brings.

Thanks!

.
Gain Perspective. Get Inspired. Make History.

Ellice Engdahl, PMP
Manager, Digital Collections & Content
P: 313.982.6005
E: elli...@thehenryford.org

www.thehenryford.org
.

The Henry Ford
20900 Oakwood Boulevard
Dearborn, MI 48124

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[MCN-L] Video hosting question

[Ellice Engdahl]

Hello, all,

While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently host most 
our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video clips) on a 
private streaming platform.  We don't use much of the functionality provided by 
the private platform, so the question has come up whether YouTube would meet 
our needs as a player.

Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head:


  1.  Are there potentially different copyright implications to private hosting 
than to YouTube?  What if we made the YouTube videos unlisted so we were simply 
using it as a player?
  2.  Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video 
challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards?

Can anyone weigh in on these?  And are there other issues to contemplate that I 
am missing?  If the people at your institution who would make such decisions 
are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass this along to them-I 
will take any and all input, on- or off-list.

If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or instead 
of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you think it brings.

Thanks!

.
Gain Perspective. Get Inspired. Make History.

Ellice Engdahl, PMP
Manager, Digital Collections & Content
P: 313.982.6005
E: elli...@thehenryford.org

www.thehenryford.org
.

The Henry Ford
20900 Oakwood Boulevard
Dearborn, MI 48124

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