Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
It seems than at Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:43:42 -0700, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:28:16 -0800 (PST) LWB250 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > They are also sometimes referred to as "folded horn" > > enclosures. I believe this was the term used by EV > > and others. > > Dan > > Where does the Klipsch horn fit into all of these? It is a horn-loaded speaker. I think the low frequency horn is folded and couples to the room walls. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
Another college story -- in a rocket engineering class the prof told of the time when some wiseass (supposedly anonymous, but he knew lots of the details) hooked up a 2000 psi water line to the rocket lab toilet (one of those direct injection kind) at a school that sounded like the one he attended, when their prof was taking care o' bidness, and when this prof hit the flush leverit definitely hit the fan. Hey -- Happy New Year Y'all!!! --R LWB250 wrote: > I saw a demo in the development lab of the > "redesigned" toilet, and to show how strong they were > there were guys jumping up and down on one. > > The story I really enjoyed was about the time plumbers > were pressure testing in an addition to an existing > building, and while doing so, guillotined a guy's > member in a urinal from the pressure. > > Ouch. > > We never had anything that exciting in the power > systems division. > > MacDan > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
Our experiment only caused problems. The whole point was to generate some aerodynamic noise, which it did really really well. That and a bunch of other annoying effects. The noise had some interesting attributes in regards to where the most sound energy was being radiated. I forget the details now, but our little test actually tracked fairly well with what we had caluculated from equations and theory. Surprised us quite a bit! The actually sound was quite interesting to hear too -- it sounded quite "choppy" as the individual shock waves passed ears, with the chopping sound kinda overlaid on the very loud roar of the whole thing. The chops were due to each blade rotation and how the shocks radiated -- sort of complex sound field but pretty cool to hear. I keep thinking about making another one someday just to annoy the neighbors, maybe build a big Tesla coil too, and put on a multimedia show. As far as working supersonic propellers, that has been researched quite a bit, but the noise is the big issue. They can be made to work with the right geometries, and pretty well, but quite noisy. --R archer wrote: > I remember something from years ago about the speed of propellers being > limited because the tips broke the sound barrier. Then they came along with > fanjets. It would seem that the fanject blade tips would have the same > problem as the propeller blade tips. Did your experiments help solve that > problem? > Gerry > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT SR225 (You Gotta Be Kidding ME)
Ah, but all the collectors are now of an age where getting that old iron we tossed is coming into vogue. Wonder if I could make some dork with an old Mac Plus or SE happy with the pair of Seagate 2 gig scsi drives I have? Probably wants the 10 gig I am keeping on the shelf in original static wrap. clay On 31 Dec 2007, at 13:06, Frederick W Moir wrote: > Treasures in the junk pile? > http://cgi.ebay.com/Seagate-ST225-20MB-MFM-Hard- > Drive_W0QQitemZ140193434004QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ > rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. '08 Z4 Raffle on My Birfday/wish me luck!
In a message dated 12/31/2007 10:59:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the local school districts is hold a raffle for an '08 Z4 to be drawn on my birthday. Seems like an omen.. http://www.winthebmw.com/ Bob, and all, This is one of my favorite charities, Chandler Education Foundation, and for years they have been raffling a Mercedes. This is the first year, in recent memory, they are switching to the Z4. I looked at it this afternoon and bought two tickets.Feb 13th may, or may not, be your lucky day! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
http://www.murphyauctions.net/westernvideo.html get your new toys here. I have nothing to do with it. Just got the notice and given all the chatter, must be someone who needs to stock up clay On 31 Dec 2007, at 12:16, Mitch Haley wrote: > Jim Cathey wrote: >> >>> I'm pretty happy with the old DCM KX10 and KX12 speakers. >> >> I have DCM Time Frames. Bought new, serial number 510 (or >> thereabouts). IIRC they were around $500 at the time. >> Recently picked up a pair of unmarked DCM bookshelf >> speakers at Goodwill for $20. > > I was reading some Time Window reviews and somebody said that he > found a pair > of TWs in the dumpster!!! Best speakers he ever had. (if all the > drivers > and crossover elements were good, TWs would be the best I ever had > too) > If I could find a functional set of Time Window Sevens for a couple > hundred > I'd be very happy. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX Craigslist 300D w/4 spd
I love that he says it's not pretty, but then he was "just going to run bio" with it. Brian On Dec 31, 2007 3:30 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Title problems could be big on this-including unpaid taxes for several > owners etc. I personally would run. BTDT > Dwight > > Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > Wickford RI 02852 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:20 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] PHX Craigslist 300D w/4 spd > > Hey guys > > Try this one $500. but, ya' gotta come and get it. > > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/520354875.html > > Usual disclaimer, no interest, etc. > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
The 602 engine doesn't have those nice cam stands, the cam is bolted down to the head with fairly solid cam bearing blocks instead. If the cam broke, I'd quite certain that the valve that did the job is well and truely bent, and the guide is also probably shot. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:44:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what are the chances that a 602 that broke the chain and broke the cam does NOT have bent valves? Is is possible that the cam broke instead of bending a valve? Thinking maybe just replacing cam etc and seeing what happens without pulling the head. Am I just farting in a whirlwind? Kaleb, I bought a 200D just like that and pistons and valves were fine. Chain broke! Cam was broke and 3 stands were broken. I would change the cam and run a compression test. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] radio wiring nightmare
This was a recent project in my coupe, the installation of a different radio and bypassing the fader switch without cutting speaker wiring. First, snag some speaker wiring out of a parts car, cutting it at the radio, and disconnecting it at the connectors next to the shifter and in the dash under the speakers. This project ran simultaneously with odometer and temp sensor foam tube repair. Luther On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:37:48 -0600, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd > expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! > > I agree about butchering the factory wiring -- all the major > manufacturers of aftermarket stuff these days make conversion harnesses > that just plug into the factory ones, you don't have to cut into > things. Makes it MUCH easier to hook up initially AND to return to > factory configuration! > > Peter > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Today's List
This is pretty funny: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html MacDan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
If I remember correctly, the Air Force and Navy tried some supersonic propeller turbo-prop planes in the early 50's before jets worked well enough for carrier work (no range) -- the props were counter-rotating and rather short, and worked just fine other than the normal problems with counter-rotating gearboxes and the NOISE. Deafened (literally) the deck people, even with hearing protection, and the rumor was that you couldn't do anti-submarine work as the plane could be heard so far away underwater Did a number on the pilot, too. Doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to eliminate the noise, either. Those musta been fun classes! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Pretty much just go with the traffic, although I am a gentle driver. Mostly open road around here, but it doesn't matter much with diesels -- they don't loose that much milage in town unless you get stuck it slow traffic jams. I don't floor it, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Fairly gently, usually not over 60 on the highway to work (60 mph speed limit). Ran right at 30 mpg on my trip to Fr. Wayne, IN for Thanksgiving this year, too running 75 or so most of the way. I got 29 highway even driving hard in the old one. Peter On Dec 31, 2007, at 9:09 PM, John Robbins wrote: > Peter Frederick wrote: >> Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd >> expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! > > How aggressive do you drive? I get 29-31 on the highway going ~80 in > my > 2.5T > >> I agree about butchering the factory wiring -- all the major >> manufacturers of aftermarket stuff these days make conversion >> harnesses >> that just plug into the factory ones, you don't have to cut into >> things. Makes it MUCH easier to hook up initially AND to return to >> factory configuration! > > Not on my '92! The factory head unit really isn't the actual radio, it > is all in the trunk. There is a custom cable that runs to the trunk > where the actual AM/FM tuner, amplifier, etc are. There's no adapter > for that, and if you want to add an aftermarket radio none of that > wiring will work. I'm going to be adding an aftermarket radio to my > car > soon, but will most likely just abandon the old stuff in place. I'll > use the trunk antenna somehow though... adding one up front is just > silly. > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
I remember something from years ago about the speed of propellers being limited because the tips broke the sound barrier. Then they came along with fanjets. It would seem that the fanject blade tips would have the same problem as the propeller blade tips. Did your experiments help solve that problem? Gerry (Cousin was at Purdue Engineering, went to WW-2, came back and got his degree, worked 30 years for S.I.G.&E., and died several years ago.) - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One of my professors in college (Purdue, Aero/Astro), who went to MIT, > and later became head of the Dept at Purdue, told a story in our > Aerodynamic Noise class of having made a large speaker while an > undergrad at MIT, which was installed in a dorm room (or, rather, the > modified dorm room was the speaker enclosure) and pointed through the > window across the Charles River at Boston and Beacon Hill. The testing > was curtailed when the Cambridge and Boston police visited to explain > that some good citizens were complaining of loud noises and that windows > had been broken and could they please do something about that. No > charges were filed but the students were put on notice that anymore such > behavior would result in severe penalties. Of course they complied... > > My project in that class was to build and test a supersonic propeller. > This was a 24" radius propeller turning at approx 12000 RPM, driven by a > very large electric motor with a 20:1 pulley ratio (drive to driven). > Everything was working well until a piece of plastic sheet about 10'x20' > got sucked into it from across the hangar, and bent the 1" steel drive > shaft about 30deg and ripped off the jack bearings from the stand. We > fixed that and started more runs when we were advised that experiments > were complete. Other students in the lab (a converted large hangar at > the airport) complained of loud noise, too much wind, and other asserted > and considerable dangers, the Nuke E guys wanted their safety equipment > (a chain link fence deal with a 2" thick piece of plexiglas for viewing > the activities) returned, and the lab techs determined that too much > power was being drawn off a 220V circuit to be safe for any length of > time. It generated a lot of noise from the supersonic shock waves > generated off the tips (running at about 1200fps) and a good portion of > the blades, and the waveforms looked really cool on an oscilloscope. > That experiment and some guys who built a seriously nasty rocket engine > got high accolades. > > That was the most fun I had in college, well in class anyway. We didn't > know sh*t about much we were doing, but threw a bunch of castoff stuff > together we found laying around the lab and let her rip. Oh, and I got > an A in the class. > > --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
I saw a demo in the development lab of the "redesigned" toilet, and to show how strong they were there were guys jumping up and down on one. The story I really enjoyed was about the time plumbers were pressure testing in an addition to an existing building, and while doing so, guillotined a guy's member in a urinal from the pressure. Ouch. We never had anything that exciting in the power systems division. MacDan --- John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, well I was looking at the Grohe UK catalog which > has all sorts of > nice > things as compared to usa catalog and *was* > wondering why the wall hung > toilet assemblies looked more like a structure you'd > find on front of > a fork lift. > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:00 PM, LWB250 wrote: > > > /// > > > One of my favorites was the 600-700 pound guy that > sat > > on a wall-hung toilet, which, as you might expect, > > tore out of the wall. We settled, and as a > result, > > re-engineered our wall hung toilets to hold > nothing > > short of a small car, I believe. Naturally, the > > additional costs were passed on to the > consumer > > > > Dan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
One of my professors in college (Purdue, Aero/Astro), who went to MIT, and later became head of the Dept at Purdue, told a story in our Aerodynamic Noise class of having made a large speaker while an undergrad at MIT, which was installed in a dorm room (or, rather, the modified dorm room was the speaker enclosure) and pointed through the window across the Charles River at Boston and Beacon Hill. The testing was curtailed when the Cambridge and Boston police visited to explain that some good citizens were complaining of loud noises and that windows had been broken and could they please do something about that. No charges were filed but the students were put on notice that anymore such behavior would result in severe penalties. Of course they complied... My project in that class was to build and test a supersonic propeller. This was a 24" radius propeller turning at approx 12000 RPM, driven by a very large electric motor with a 20:1 pulley ratio (drive to driven). Everything was working well until a piece of plastic sheet about 10'x20' got sucked into it from across the hangar, and bent the 1" steel drive shaft about 30deg and ripped off the jack bearings from the stand. We fixed that and started more runs when we were advised that experiments were complete. Other students in the lab (a converted large hangar at the airport) complained of loud noise, too much wind, and other asserted and considerable dangers, the Nuke E guys wanted their safety equipment (a chain link fence deal with a 2" thick piece of plexiglas for viewing the activities) returned, and the lab techs determined that too much power was being drawn off a 220V circuit to be safe for any length of time. It generated a lot of noise from the supersonic shock waves generated off the tips (running at about 1200fps) and a good portion of the blades, and the waveforms looked really cool on an oscilloscope. That experiment and some guys who built a seriously nasty rocket engine got high accolades. That was the most fun I had in college, well in class anyway. We didn't know sh*t about much we were doing, but threw a bunch of castoff stuff together we found laying around the lab and let her rip. Oh, and I got an A in the class. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
31-32 with a 603, what is your secret? Do you drive it like an old lady? Peter Frederick wrote: > Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd > expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! > > I agree about butchering the factory wiring -- all the major > manufacturers of aftermarket stuff these days make conversion harnesses > that just plug into the factory ones, you don't have to cut into > things. Makes it MUCH easier to hook up initially AND to return to > factory configuration! > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
I get 29 in town, and 33 at 75 mph on the interstates. On Dec 31, 2007 9:09 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Frederick wrote: > > Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd > > expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! > > How aggressive do you drive? I get 29-31 on the highway going ~80 in my > 2.5T > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Peter Frederick wrote: > Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd > expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! How aggressive do you drive? I get 29-31 on the highway going ~80 in my 2.5T > I agree about butchering the factory wiring -- all the major > manufacturers of aftermarket stuff these days make conversion harnesses > that just plug into the factory ones, you don't have to cut into > things. Makes it MUCH easier to hook up initially AND to return to > factory configuration! Not on my '92! The factory head unit really isn't the actual radio, it is all in the trunk. There is a custom cable that runs to the trunk where the actual AM/FM tuner, amplifier, etc are. There's no adapter for that, and if you want to add an aftermarket radio none of that wiring will work. I'm going to be adding an aftermarket radio to my car soon, but will most likely just abandon the old stuff in place. I'll use the trunk antenna somehow though... adding one up front is just silly. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Which is why we have the Plymouth van -- need those 7 seats frequently, plus it doubles as a pickup when I need to haul something, like an engine or sheets of plywood. On Dec 31, 2007 2:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '65 190Dc
I just sent the seller an email asking if he would be interested in trading for a 1959 220S. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/31/07 6:58 PM Subject: [MBZ] '65 190Dc For the folks with a fintail fetish... http://bham.craigslist.org/car/522187980.html Usual disclaimers. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1204 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 12:20 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Gee, that's rotten milage -- I get 31-32 in my 300D with a 603! I'd expect more like 34 with the 2.5L in fairly flat territory! I agree about butchering the factory wiring -- all the major manufacturers of aftermarket stuff these days make conversion harnesses that just plug into the factory ones, you don't have to cut into things. Makes it MUCH easier to hook up initially AND to return to factory configuration! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 280SL
Redghost wrote: > > The Kubota motor just did not seem to do the project justice I hope it's bigger than the 15hp Kubota in the Cub Cadet 782D. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
Ah, well I was looking at the Grohe UK catalog which has all sorts of nice things as compared to usa catalog and *was* wondering why the wall hung toilet assemblies looked more like a structure you'd find on front of a fork lift. On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:00 PM, LWB250 wrote: > /// > One of my favorites was the 600-700 pound guy that sat > on a wall-hung toilet, which, as you might expect, > tore out of the wall. We settled, and as a result, > re-engineered our wall hung toilets to hold nothing > short of a small car, I believe. Naturally, the > additional costs were passed on to the consumer > > Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '65 190Dc
For the folks with a fintail fetish... http://bham.craigslist.org/car/522187980.html Usual disclaimers. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I tried Aerokroil, WD-40, Blaster, Tal-5, and a couple I've forgotten the name of on a tough bolt. Finally tried "Rust Eater" from Autozone. The next morning there was dissolved rust all around the bolt and it finally came loose. It was the only solvent that visibly dissolved rust. Gerry --- From: "Dave H..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your right is is AeroKroil > Time for the professionals > Dave H... > -- >>> Today I tried a brand called Koni, I think ??? It loosened more than >>> anything else has but still a no go. Kroil perhaps. AeroKroil is REALLY good stuff. >> Rick Knoble >> '85 300 CD >> '87 190 DT - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX Craigslist 300D w/4 spd
Title problems could be big on this-including unpaid taxes for several owners etc. I personally would run. BTDT Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] PHX Craigslist 300D w/4 spd Hey guys Try this one $500. but, ya' gotta come and get it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/520354875.html Usual disclaimer, no interest, etc. Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PHX Craigslist 300D w/4 spd
Hey guys Try this one $500. but, ya' gotta come and get it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/520354875.html Usual disclaimer, no interest, etc. Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
If that makes you mad, you should hear some of the stories I would hear when working with the legal dept. at Kohler. While our division had some interesting litigation from time to time that we had to work on, the plumbing division had some real doozies. One of my favorites was the 600-700 pound guy that sat on a wall-hung toilet, which, as you might expect, tore out of the wall. We settled, and as a result, re-engineered our wall hung toilets to hold nothing short of a small car, I believe. Naturally, the additional costs were passed on to the consumer Dan --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure > crazy stuff like > this goes on, these are false > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 280SL
The Kubota motor just did not seem to do the project justice clay On 31 Dec 2007, at 05:42, Mitch Haley wrote: > Redghost wrote: >> >> Ahhh, a Jim Cathey project! Were I able to peel the cash out of the >> account, I would love to drop a om617 in > > 617 is kinda heavy. Does anybody know if there was ever a turbocharged > OM601 or OM604? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Yes, I agree about the 2.5 turbo-perfect balance. I get between 29-31mpg depending on how hard I work the turbo. After 5 years of 240D, turbo is a tempting toy. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:08 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo Been driving the 140 diesel for a while. Had the center console apart on the 92 300D fixing the cig lighter, was not working. Discoverd it was not hooked up. Anyway, put car back together and drove it today to work. It needed to be filled up so I filled it up and got 29.8 mpg. WOW. The 2.5 turbo is the perfect balance of economy, performance, and luxury. The 140 diesel is the ultimate luxury but gives up some performance and economy. On another note, there is a crappy alpine cassette installed in this car. This has the factory 2 piece system with the amp etc. Well all the equipment is installed in the trunk but when hooking up this aftermarket radio, there is nothing plugged into the amp in the trunk. Looks like the round plug that goes from the head unit to the trunk unit is still there under the dash, as is the power (I think) plug. The fader switch has been bypassed I guess. Also the antenna wire is up front to hook to the radio. In the factory configuration it goes to the trunk unit. So in order to get this thing back to stock, looks like Im going to somehow have to get all the wires back to the trunk area for the speakers and the antenna. I guess when they hooked it up they removed the plug on the amp in the trunk and routed everything up front some how. Originally there are speaker connections on the trunk unit. Do these go from there to the amp, then from the amp to the fader switch and then on to the speakers? All I know is since it doesnt run thru the amp now the sound is very bad, not like it should be with the proper configuration. I hate it when people butcher up the wiring for the factory radio, especially the 2 piece radios. Very hard to get it back to original. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
Kaleb, Thanks for doing the research.. Happy New Year to your new family. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Dec 31, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like > this goes on, these are false > > http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp > > archer wrote: >> It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those >> unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella >> Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the >> McDonald's in New Mexico where she purchased the coffee. You >> remember, >> she took the lid off the coffee and put it between her knees while >> she >> was driving. Who would ever think one could get burned doing that, >> right? >> >> These are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and >> verdicts in the U.S. >> >> Here are the Stella's for the past year: >> >> 7TH PLACE: >> >> Kathleen Robertson of Austin , Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury >> of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was >> running inside a furniture store. The store owners were >> understandably >> surprised by the verdict, considering the running toddler was her own >> son. >> >> 6TH PLACE : >> >> Carl Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus >> medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda >> Accord. >> Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the >> car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. >> >> 5TH PLACE: >> >> Terrence Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , was leaving a house he >> had just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for >> Dickson, >> the automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not >> get the >> garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house >> because the >> door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it >> shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT, days on a case of >> Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's >> insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the >> jury said >> the >> insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We >> should >> all have this kind of anguish. >> >> 4TH PLACE: >> >> Jerry Williams, of Little Rock , Arkansas , garnered 4th Place in the >> Stella's when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after >> being >> bitten on the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even >> though the >> beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not >> get >> as much as he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might >> have >> been provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had >> climbed >> over the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a >> pellet >> gun. >> >> 3RD PLACE: >> >> Third place goes to Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because >> a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after >> she >> slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The >> reason the >> soft drink was on the floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her >> boyfriend >> 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people >> being responsible for their own actions? >> >> 2ND PLACE: >> >> Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club >> in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the >> floor, >> knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was >> trying to >> sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover >> charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000oh, >> yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. >> >> 1ST PLACE: >> >> This year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs.. Merv >> Grazinski, of Oklahoma City ,Oklahoma , who purchased a new 32-foot >> Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home from an OU football >> game, >> having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 >> mph and >> calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago >> to make >> herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the >> freeway, >> crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued >> Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't >> actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was >> set. The >> Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down, $1,750,000 PLUS a >> new motor >> home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of >> this suit, >> just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a >> motor >> home. >> - >> With that I wish you all a Happy, Successful, and Prosperous New Year >> Gerry >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts ema
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Your right is is AeroKroil Time for the professionals Dave H... -- From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:37 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) >> Today I tried a brand called Koni, I think ??? It loosened more than >> anything else has but still a no go. >> > > Kroil perhaps. AeroKroil is REALLY good stuff. > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
There are many different horn throat types. There's your typical exponential horn, which is what you'd see in EV and then there's a tractix. The tractix is more of a square throat as opposed to regular. Think of the difference between a 4:3 tv for Tractix and a 16:9 for exponential. There are other horn throat calculations but those are the two I'm most familiar with. Different shapes have different sound characteristics. A Klipschorn is a folded horn in the bass module. The last section of the bass horn throat is meant to be an eight foot section of uninterrupted wall to get the full range. The mid horn section is exponential with the high end tweeter placed above it. If the bass wasn't folded it would have to be a 32 foot horn! I recently read an article about an Italian guy building his ultimate subwoofers. Here's the link: http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.htm#THE%20REAL%20TOTAL%20HORN And the wife thinks I'M mad about sound!! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] gee, wonder why the tabs are broken?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-W124-GLOVE-BOX-WOOD-SHUTTER-300CE-300CAB_W0QQitemZ330200846341QQihZ014QQcategoryZ33695QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
I have always looked at the McDonald's hot coffee suit that way also, until I ran into someone who actually read the particulars of the case. The coffee, which McDonalds stated was too hot to be safe, burned through her skin and caused multiple surgeries and some permanent damage. Unsafe for anyone at that temperature, and given the environment at McDonalds I suppose we should be glad it wasn't a kid grabbing a parent's arm and losing much of the skin on their face. I am by no means up on the particulars of the case, but I am told it is not the case it is usually presented to be. At any rate, I have stopped using it as an example until I know a bit more about it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:31 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Stella Awards It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the McDonald's in New Mexico where she purchased the coffee. You remember, she took the lid off the coffee and put it between her knees while she was driving. Who would ever think one could get burned doing that, right? These are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and verdicts in the U.S. Here are the Stella's for the past year: 7TH PLACE: Kathleen Robertson of Austin , Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The store owners were understandably surprised by the verdict, considering the running toddler was her own son. 6TH PLACE : Carl Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. 5TH PLACE: Terrence Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , was leaving a house he had just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, the automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT, days on a case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury said the insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We should all have this kind of anguish. 4TH PLACE: Jerry Williams, of Little Rock , Arkansas , garnered 4th Place in the Stella's when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being bitten on the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get as much as he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have been provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed over the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet gun. 3RD PLACE: Third place goes to Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions? 2ND PLACE: Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000oh, yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. 1ST PLACE: This year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs.. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City ,Oklahoma , who purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home from an OU football game, having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down, $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home. - With that I wish you all a Happy, Successful, and Prosperous New Year Gerry
Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards
Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like this goes on, these are false http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp archer wrote: > It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those > unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella > Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the > McDonald's in New Mexico where she purchased the coffee. You remember, > she took the lid off the coffee and put it between her knees while she > was driving. Who would ever think one could get burned doing that, > right? > > These are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and > verdicts in the U.S. > > Here are the Stella's for the past year: > > 7TH PLACE: > > Kathleen Robertson of Austin , Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury > of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was > running inside a furniture store. The store owners were understandably > surprised by the verdict, considering the running toddler was her own > son. > > 6TH PLACE : > > Carl Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus > medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. > Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the > car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. > > 5TH PLACE: > > Terrence Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , was leaving a house he > had just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, > the automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the > garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the > door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it > shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT, days on a case of > Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's > insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury said > the > insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We should > all have this kind of anguish. > > 4TH PLACE: > > Jerry Williams, of Little Rock , Arkansas , garnered 4th Place in the > Stella's when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being > bitten on the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the > beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get > as much as he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have > been provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed > over the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet > gun. > > 3RD PLACE: > > Third place goes to Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because > a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she > slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the > soft drink was on the floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend > 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people > being responsible for their own actions? > > 2ND PLACE: > > Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club > in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, > knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to > sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover > charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000oh, > yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. > > 1ST PLACE: > > This year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs.. Merv > Grazinski, of Oklahoma City ,Oklahoma , who purchased a new 32-foot > Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home from an OU football game, > having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and > calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make > herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, > crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued > Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't > actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The > Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down, $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor > home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, > just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor > home. > - > With that I wish you all a Happy, Successful, and Prosperous New Year > Gerry > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 7
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
> Today I tried a brand called Koni, I think ??? It loosened more than > anything else has but still a no go. > Kroil perhaps. AeroKroil is REALLY good stuff. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart
<> The key to looking smart is keeping your mouth shut when a subject comes up about which you have no useful knowledge. I shall say no more. RLEÂ Â ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's always something with a car
Friend of mine wants to buy a new car, and has her eye on one, but something about it just makes her nervous. She's asked for my advice. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 46309 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071231/bfbbea0a/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stella Awards
It's time again for the annual "Stella Awards"! For those unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued the McDonald's in New Mexico where she purchased the coffee. You remember, she took the lid off the coffee and put it between her knees while she was driving. Who would ever think one could get burned doing that, right? These are awards for the most outlandish lawsuits and verdicts in the U.S. Here are the Stella's for the past year: 7TH PLACE: Kathleen Robertson of Austin , Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The store owners were understandably surprised by the verdict, considering the running toddler was her own son. 6TH PLACE : Carl Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. 5TH PLACE: Terrence Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , was leaving a house he had just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, the automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT, days on a case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury said the insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We should all have this kind of anguish. 4TH PLACE: Jerry Williams, of Little Rock , Arkansas , garnered 4th Place in the Stella's when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being bitten on the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get as much as he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have been provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed over the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet gun. 3RD PLACE: Third place goes to Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions? 2ND PLACE: Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000oh, yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. 1ST PLACE: This year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs.. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City ,Oklahoma , who purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home from an OU football game, having driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down, $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home. - With that I wish you all a Happy, Successful, and Prosperous New Year Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT SR225 (You Gotta Be Kidding ME)
I probably have several of those era drives on my workbench. Maybe I should list them and undercut his starting bid by $20. :-) On Dec 31, 2007 3:06 PM, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Treasures in the junk pile? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Seagate-ST225-20MB-MFM-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ140193434004QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT ST225 (You Gotta Be Kidding ME)
Frederick W Moir wrote: > > Treasures in the junk pile? Wow. I'll sell you a ST251-1 for $1000 and throw in a ST225 and a hard drive controller for free! Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Been driving the 140 diesel for a while. Had the center console apart on the 92 300D fixing the cig lighter, was not working. Discoverd it was not hooked up. Anyway, put car back together and drove it today to work. It needed to be filled up so I filled it up and got 29.8 mpg. WOW. The 2.5 turbo is the perfect balance of economy, performance, and luxury. The 140 diesel is the ultimate luxury but gives up some performance and economy. On another note, there is a crappy alpine cassette installed in this car. This has the factory 2 piece system with the amp etc. Well all the equipment is installed in the trunk but when hooking up this aftermarket radio, there is nothing plugged into the amp in the trunk. Looks like the round plug that goes from the head unit to the trunk unit is still there under the dash, as is the power (I think) plug. The fader switch has been bypassed I guess. Also the antenna wire is up front to hook to the radio. In the factory configuration it goes to the trunk unit. So in order to get this thing back to stock, looks like Im going to somehow have to get all the wires back to the trunk area for the speakers and the antenna. I guess when they hooked it up they removed the plug on the amp in the trunk and routed everything up front some how. Originally there are speaker connections on the trunk unit. Do these go from there to the amp, then from the amp to the fader switch and then on to the speakers? All I know is since it doesnt run thru the amp now the sound is very bad, not like it should be with the proper configuration. I hate it when people butcher up the wiring for the factory radio, especially the 2 piece radios. Very hard to get it back to original. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT SR225 (You Gotta Be Kidding ME)
Treasures in the junk pile? http://cgi.ebay.com/Seagate-ST225-20MB-MFM-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ140193434004QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
My Vanagon could easily handle 7 people, without requiring 2 of them to sit in the way back and stare at the fools behind you...though, two of them would have to stare at the three sitting in the back seat. On Dec 31, 2007 12:54 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ever watch the tv show John and Kate Plus 8 (I think I got the name right > - not really sure about John)? > > A couple who had twins and then sextuplets. They have a big Ford Diesel > van if I recall. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, > work > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:15 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Ever watch the tv show John and Kate Plus 8 (I think I got the name right - not really sure about John)? A couple who had twins and then sextuplets. They have a big Ford Diesel van if I recall. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
> > > What is "transmission line" ? Sounds like > > > something you'd > > > find at the top of a utility pole. > > > Allen > > There are numerous ways to try to make this cabinet > > interact > > with the speaker itself. Some of these are infinite > > baffle, horn loaded, acoustic suspension, bass > > reflex, passive > > radiator, and transmission line. > > > > More info at: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_transmission_lines > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_enclosure > > > > -- Philip > They are also sometimes referred to as "folded horn" > enclosures. I believe this was the term used by EV > and others. > > Dan That's not the same. Similar, but with a folded horn the horn is on the front side of the driver, while the transmission line is the backside loading. Also, with an front horn the shape of that horn is quite important. If I understand correctly, the shape of the tuned tunnel in a transmission line is not very important. Both use a long column of air to do their job -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thanks to Dr. Booth!...
TY Philip -- From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:19 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thanks to Dr. Booth!... > It seems than at Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:53:47 -0500, Dave wrote: > >> >> 80 AMP glow Plug relay ? Where is this monster? > >> On a 84 300DT? > > On the front side of the inner fender on the drivers side. Kinda > straight back from the headlight. > > It is about 2 inches (50 mm) wide by 6 inches (150 mm) long. The > top is a cover. Lift it off and the fuse is at the top, or rear, > end. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:28:16 -0800 (PST) LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are also sometimes referred to as "folded horn" > enclosures. I believe this was the term used by EV > and others. > Dan Where does the Klipsch horn fit into all of these? Craig > --- Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It seems than at Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:36:39 -0500, > > Allan wrote: > > > > > What is "transmission line" ? Sounds like > > something you'd > > > find at the top of a utility pole. > > > > A speaker standing all by itself (no cabinet) is > > call "free air". > > This situation is not very efficient because when > > the cone moves > > forward, air "leaks" around to the backside and not > > much > > pressure is built up to make noise. > > > > So, practically all speakers are mounted in some > > sort of > > cabinet, sometimes called a baffle, to prevent this > > leaking air. > > There are numerous ways to try to make this cabinet > > interact > > with the speaker itself. Some of these are infinite > > baffle, horn loaded, acoustic suspension, bass > > reflex, passive > > radiator, and transmission line. > > > > More info at: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_transmission_lines > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_enclosure > > > > -- Philip > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _ > ___ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 244 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN "Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email." / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
In order to maintain the MB connection and still be efficient, you should do what one of the megafamilies in my neighborhood did a few years ago - get one of those Freightliner vans and convert it into a bus. I see you can buy them set up this way now, but when they got theirs was before that - they had a local body shop do the conversion for them. MacDan --- "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will > seat the entire family > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
They are also sometimes referred to as "folded horn" enclosures. I believe this was the term used by EV and others. Dan --- Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems than at Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:36:39 -0500, > Allan wrote: > > > What is "transmission line" ? Sounds like > something you'd > > find at the top of a utility pole. > > A speaker standing all by itself (no cabinet) is > call "free air". > This situation is not very efficient because when > the cone moves > forward, air "leaks" around to the backside and not > much > pressure is built up to make noise. > > So, practically all speakers are mounted in some > sort of > cabinet, sometimes called a baffle, to prevent this > leaking air. > There are numerous ways to try to make this cabinet > interact > with the speaker itself. Some of these are infinite > baffle, horn loaded, acoustic suspension, bass > reflex, passive > radiator, and transmission line. > > More info at: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_transmission_lines > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_enclosure > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
My final word on the 93 300E! And I'm stickin' to it! I have attempted every concoction imaginable to loosen up the rusted connections mounting bracket screws for this vehicles fuel filter system. Today I tried a brand called Koni, I think ??? It loosened more than anything else has but still a no go. Yep, I admit it. "I am dumber than a New England Rust Spot." Dave H... ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
Jim Cathey wrote: > > > I'm pretty happy with the old DCM KX10 and KX12 speakers. > > I have DCM Time Frames. Bought new, serial number 510 (or > thereabouts). IIRC they were around $500 at the time. > Recently picked up a pair of unmarked DCM bookshelf > speakers at Goodwill for $20. I was reading some Time Window reviews and somebody said that he found a pair of TWs in the dumpster!!! Best speakers he ever had. (if all the drivers and crossover elements were good, TWs would be the best I ever had too) If I could find a functional set of Time Window Sevens for a couple hundred I'd be very happy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
D'OH! I thought it was because of the Maine connection. On Dec 31, 2007 3:14 PM, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fold down the seats and you can sleep maybe three or four kids in there at > night--instant mobile home > > On Dec 31, 2007 12:11 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Fold down the seats and you can sleep maybe three or four kids in there at night--instant mobile home On Dec 31, 2007 12:11 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? On Dec 31, 2007 1:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > who knows, I emailed the guy so we will see > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > > Is it really a wagon? > > > > Bob R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:24 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > > Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would > > help > > > > with the kid situation > > > > --- > > Kaleb C. Striplin > > Cox Auto Trader > > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ralph W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > > > > >> Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup > >> vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are > folded > >> down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. > >> > >> Ralph Wasserbaech > >> 2001 E320 AWD wagon > >> 1990 300D > >> 1987 300TD > >> 1983 300CD > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
Odd coincidence that he wants to sell just after having the head rebuilt? Maybe the job was botched? That's the only thing that I'd be sure to check. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Robert Rentfro wrote: >> http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html >> >> Should I be excited? > > I would be. If they are anal enough to keep it R12 it has probably been > well taken care of. > > My $.02 > > John > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
I would certainly go take a look, and finagle if it were closer. Dave H... -- From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:35 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D > Robert Rentfro wrote: >> http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html >> >> Should I be excited? > > I would be. If they are anal enough to keep it R12 it has probably been > well taken care of. > > My $.02 > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
Robert Rentfro wrote: > http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html > > Should I be excited? I would be. If they are anal enough to keep it R12 it has probably been well taken care of. My $.02 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
maybe --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D > http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html > > > > Should I be excited? > > > > Bob R. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess
Archer wrote: "I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list?" I joined in 1983. I have been a member since. I have only gone to events since then. It is like many other things. I was pretty smart on the day I took the test. But, I am an idiot when it comes to some things and fairly capable when it comes to others. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html Should I be excited? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
who knows, I emailed the guy so we will see --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > Is it really a wagon? > > Bob R. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:24 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would > help > > with the kid situation > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Ralph W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > > >> Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup >> vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded >> down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. >> >> Ralph Wasserbaech >> 2001 E320 AWD wagon >> 1990 300D >> 1987 300TD >> 1983 300CD > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Is it really a wagon? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would help with the kid situation --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Ralph W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup > vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded > down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. > > Ralph Wasserbaech > 2001 E320 AWD wagon > 1990 300D > 1987 300TD > 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
I bet when this CL-er says "300TD" he means "300 turbo diesel" not a wagon. I've seen that many times. I think having a backup car is almost vital when you have vintage rides like we do. I remembered how important I thought that was this morning when my 300D almost didn't start an the wifey has the Acura at work and I have to take girl child to the airport then go make electricity all night long. Bob R. Looking for a backup...preferably a 220D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph W. Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD - Original Message - From: "Frederick W Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > At 12:32 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: >>http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html >> >>Seems too cheap >> >>-Curt > > Curt et al.. > I thought so too. Though it would be nice to have a good one. > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > 85 300TD > 87 190DT Bent > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would help with the kid situation --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Ralph W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup > vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded > down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. > > Ralph Wasserbaech > 2001 E320 AWD wagon > 1990 300D > 1987 300TD > 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD - Original Message - From: "Frederick W Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD > At 12:32 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: >>http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html >> >>Seems too cheap >> >>-Curt > > Curt et al.. > I thought so too. Though it would be nice to have a good one. > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > 85 300TD > 87 190DT Bent > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.T. '08 Z4 Raffle on My Birfday
One of the local school districts is hold a raffle for an '08 Z4 to be drawn on my birthday. Seems like an omen.. http://www.winthebmw.com/ Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
> I'm pretty happy with the old DCM KX10 and KX12 speakers. I have DCM Time Frames. Bought new, serial number 510 (or thereabouts). IIRC they were around $500 at the time. Recently picked up a pair of unmarked DCM bookshelf speakers at Goodwill for $20. Not sure what I'll use them for. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
It seems than at Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:36:39 -0500, Allan wrote: > What is "transmission line" ? Sounds like something you'd > find at the top of a utility pole. A speaker standing all by itself (no cabinet) is call "free air". This situation is not very efficient because when the cone moves forward, air "leaks" around to the backside and not much pressure is built up to make noise. So, practically all speakers are mounted in some sort of cabinet, sometimes called a baffle, to prevent this leaking air. There are numerous ways to try to make this cabinet interact with the speaker itself. Some of these are infinite baffle, horn loaded, acoustic suspension, bass reflex, passive radiator, and transmission line. More info at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_transmission_lines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_enclosure -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
At 12:32 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: >http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html > >Seems too cheap > >-Curt Curt et al.. I thought so too. Though it would be nice to have a good one. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Rust Belt -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:32:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html > >Seems too cheap > >-Curt > > >- >Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300TD
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html Seems too cheap -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
The nice thing about building your own cabinets was that the money you saved could be put towards really good drivers. I was lucky, as we had a nice woodworking shop at the house, so building something like this was pretty elementary. Dan --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty happy with the old DCM KX10 and KX12 > speakers. Too > bad you can't just swing by Circuit City and pick up > something > that effective and affordable today. Best thing I > ever heard > under $500. > Mitch. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
LWB250 wrote: > > I have built TL enclosures using plans from both EV > and Altec Lansing - if well designed, a TL enclosure > with the proper drivers can do some serious damage to > your eardrums. I'm pretty happy with the old DCM KX10 and KX12 speakers. Too bad you can't just swing by Circuit City and pick up something that effective and affordable today. Best thing I ever heard under $500. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok mac heads
You'd think that sooner or later they would run our of eager- beaver volunteers, in particular those that appear on the surface to be sane and have at least one college degree. Maybe these guys will spring for the Time Machine! On Dec 31, 2007 12:00 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They do. But back to the original topic (sort of) I read today that > the US Army is starting to buy Macs because of the perceived better > security. > > > http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/20/apple-army-hackers-tech-security-cx_ag_1221army_print.html > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I was thinking about this yesterday. Why use suicide bombers if you > > can detonate simply by placing a phone call? Seems too easy... > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok mac heads
They do. But back to the original topic (sort of) I read today that the US Army is starting to buy Macs because of the perceived better security. http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/20/apple-army-hackers-tech-security-cx_ag_1221army_print.html Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was thinking about this yesterday. Why use suicide bombers if you > can detonate simply by placing a phone call? Seems too easy... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok mac heads
i think allah wants you to blow yourself up. On Dec 31, 2007 11:53 AM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking about this yesterday. Why use suicide bombers if you can > detonate simply by placing a phone call? Seems too easy... > > On Dec 31, 2007 9:44 AM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder how many of our discarded cell phones are used to detonate > > roadside I.E.D.s in Iraq? > > > > > Might be the good ones are sent > > > overseas and refurb or sold as throw away phone > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb!
perhaps. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! > If we all chip in perhaps we can purchase this as a group? > > On Dec 31, 2007 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> geez >> >> --- >> Kaleb C. Striplin >> Cox Auto Trader >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Banned" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Okie Benz" >> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:10 PM >> Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! >> >> >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > >> > Just think - you could go back in time and buy a NEW >> > 350SDL. >> > >> > Dan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? >> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. >> > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok mac heads
I was thinking about this yesterday. Why use suicide bombers if you can detonate simply by placing a phone call? Seems too easy... On Dec 31, 2007 9:44 AM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how many of our discarded cell phones are used to detonate > roadside I.E.D.s in Iraq? > > > Might be the good ones are sent > > overseas and refurb or sold as throw away phone > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb!
If we all chip in perhaps we can purchase this as a group? On Dec 31, 2007 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > geez > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Banned" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Okie Benz" > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Just think - you could go back in time and buy a NEW > > 350SDL. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
What is "transmission line" ? Sounds like something you'd find at the top of a utility pole. In college I built a set of speakers using EV "Voice of the Theater" plans. 15" EV drivers (cast frames -- no stamped steel here) horn loaded in a bass reflex enclosure and horn tweeters. STAND BACK!!! Allan LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have built TL enclosures using plans from both EV > and Altec Lansing - if well designed, a TL enclosure > with the proper drivers can do some serious damage to > your eardrums. > > The EVs I built way back in my teen years would easily > rattle windows both at my house and the neighbors when > cranked up. I think I still have the plans in my > filing cabinet... > > Dan > > > > --- Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> My last pair of speakers for my home system were >> transmission line. VERY >> nice tight bass and response was +-.5 20-20khz and >> down -2 at 16hz. >> >> Awesomeok, and a tad expensive$6,000 a pair. >> They're discontinued >> but the company makes almost nothing but TL >> speakers. I prefer them. >> >> It's also true when you say that old technologies >> are getting a new >> look...and they work! >> >> Jeff Zedic >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
I have built TL enclosures using plans from both EV and Altec Lansing - if well designed, a TL enclosure with the proper drivers can do some serious damage to your eardrums. The EVs I built way back in my teen years would easily rattle windows both at my house and the neighbors when cranked up. I think I still have the plans in my filing cabinet... Dan --- Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris, > > My last pair of speakers for my home system were > transmission line. VERY > nice tight bass and response was +-.5 20-20khz and > down -2 at 16hz. > > Awesomeok, and a tad expensive$6,000 a pair. > They're discontinued > but the company makes almost nothing but TL > speakers. I prefer them. > > It's also true when you say that old technologies > are getting a new > look...and they work! > > Jeff Zedic > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dearth of high fidelity...probably more accurate
Chris, My last pair of speakers for my home system were transmission line. VERY nice tight bass and response was +-.5 20-20khz and down -2 at 16hz. Awesomeok, and a tad expensive$6,000 a pair. They're discontinued but the company makes almost nothing but TL speakers. I prefer them. It's also true when you say that old technologies are getting a new look...and they work! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Part search for a 1980 280E
Dave, FYI, that would be the same part as the Euro 230, 240D, 300D & 220D Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part search for a 1980 280E Does anyone know where I can get a driver's side front turn signal Euro style (yellow) Dave H... > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Part search for a 1980 280E
Does anyone know where I can get a driver's side front turn signal Euro style (yellow) Dave H... > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
Leak down test. You don't really need the tester for gross results. Apply compressed air though the glow plug holes, with the valves closed and the piston at TDC or BDC. Listen at the intake exhaust and oil fill for escaping air. Bent valves will be obvious. worn rings a little less so. Bob Parrish, FL On 12/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yea, I do have another engine I can use if need be, but would rather keep > the euro engine intact. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam > > > > So, what's the plan now? I thought you had another engine waiting in > > the wings for that car, or is this yet another project? > > Regardless - just pull the head if you are going to get that engine > > running again. > > > > On Dec 31, 2007 8:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> h > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
yea, I do have another engine I can use if need be, but would rather keep the euro engine intact. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam > So, what's the plan now? I thought you had another engine waiting in > the wings for that car, or is this yet another project? > Regardless - just pull the head if you are going to get that engine > running again. > > On Dec 31, 2007 8:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> h >> > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
So, what's the plan now? I thought you had another engine waiting in the wings for that car, or is this yet another project? Regardless - just pull the head if you are going to get that engine running again. On Dec 31, 2007 8:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > h > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD with new engine
Looks decent -- so, what's a 350SD with a new engine worth? It being eBay, I'd expect it to end up selling for a crazy price, but just in case... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-350SD-58K-ON-NEW-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ260198425355QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 280SL
Is the 603 as heavy as the 617? The 117 in the 450SLs is NOT a light weight engine! I doubt that any of the automobile OM engines are as heavy. > > Ahhh, a Jim Cathey project! Were I able to peel the cash out of the > > account, I would love to drop a om617 in > > 617 is kinda heavy. Does anybody know if there was ever a turbocharged > OM601 or OM604? > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
All this talk of clipping tubes and solid state amps makes me think of the many experiments performed at the music store I worked at a while back. Of course we had to try every piece of gear out to make sure that it worked. Guitars, amps, speakers, whatever. There are companies making very complex, very high-end gear. I always found it amusing when people would come in looking for a pedal to give them a specific sound. At the time I was there Rage Against the Machine was very popular, and a lot of the young kids would ask what pedal he used to get his distortion. I had to tell them that he just turned up a tube amp. At which point I got the strangest look from all the 13 year olds wanting to sound like Tim C. The only way to explain was to crank up a tube amp, and play the crap out of it. A lot of what is being done now is refining what was done in the 60's with tube amps. Speaker cabinet design has been using old ideas as well. There is a company making transmission line enclosures as bass guitar amps. They are supposed to be flat. I didn't have any way to test that, but they were very good for certain kinds of rigs, and handled TONS of power. I had 1600 watts RMS through a cab rated at 400 RMS. As for a hybrid designs using tube pre-amps and solid state power, they can be very good sounding. It still isn't the same sound as having power amp tubes to drive to clipping. But in most situations the only person that will notice is the person playing through it. If they even hear it at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok mac heads
I wonder how many of our discarded cell phones are used to detonate roadside I.E.D.s in Iraq? > Might be the good ones are sent > overseas and refurb or sold as throw away phone > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tonight's nfl game
My fine company blocks those (gmail, yahoo mail, etc) Since my bloodless coup of the training dept will keep me pretty it's just as well. I'll read the posts when I get home. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] tonight's nfl game On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:47:08 -0700 "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup...however the IT guy sent me an email complaining about the volume > of emails I started to get...so I unsubscribed at work for now. May do > the digest once my dayshift job starts. Or you could use an on-line, web-based email service. I think that's how gmail works, at least. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb!
geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Banned" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Okie Benz" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! > http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Just think - you could go back in time and buy a NEW > 350SDL. > > Dan > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 idle control/cruise actuator E420
I dont see why not. They were all the same on teh 60x as far as I knew. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M119 idle control/cruise actuator E420 >I don't know the answer, but my guess is that the actuators were > changed to match changes in the controlling circuitry, or that the > supplier just had a better idea for producing them at a lower cost and > substituted the new part in. However, I think those cases are just > listed as superceded parts in the EPC, not unique parts per engine > number. > > I have a similar question about the vacuum pump on my '90 602 - the > EPC (and Rusty's catalog) call for a different VP for this year, > certain engine number range, and it's ~ $150 more than the pumps > before and after it. Could I use the less expensive pump??? > > On Dec 30, 2007 8:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Im sure nobody here knows, but thought i would ask anyway. On the E420, >> the epc says there are 2 different idle control/cruise actuators (sits >> over the throttle). One up to a certain engine, then one past a certain >> engine (without ASR, there are others with ASR). What is the difference >> between the 2? Could one from the earlier series of engines be used on >> the later series? I cant see what difference there would be. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
h --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam > Pull all the glow plugs, then check compression? How's it going to get > air into the cylinders to compress without open intake valves? > > On Dec 30, 2007 8:42 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The starter should have enough torque. The compressed air will act as >> springs against pistons on the way back down. >> >> Grossly bent valves will be easy to see. Slightly bent valves will not >> and bent is bent. >> > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
